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Post by minionofmidas on Jun 4, 2024 18:14:44 GMT
I asked an AI for the answer, which I’m sure is 100% correct: “Yes, there have been several individuals who have served as members of Parliament in two different countries. Here are a few notable examples: 1. **Winston Churchill**: Churchill served as a Member of Parliament (MP) in the United Kingdom and also had a brief stint as a member of the Canadian Parliament. In 1929, he was elected to the Canadian Parliament as an honorary MP. 2. **George Galloway**: Galloway was a UK MP who also ran for and was elected to the Iraqi Parliament in 2010. However, his election to the Iraqi Parliament was symbolic as he did not take up the seat. 3. **Michael Ignatieff**: A prominent Canadian politician, Ignatieff served as a Member of Parliament in Canada. Before his political career in Canada, he held various academic positions in the United Kingdom and was involved in political discourse, although he was not an elected MP in the UK. 4. **T.P. O'Connor**: T.P. O'Connor was an Irish nationalist politician who served as an MP in the United Kingdom. He was also elected to the French Parliament, although, similar to Galloway, his role was more honorary. These examples demonstrate that while it is relatively uncommon, there have been instances of individuals serving in the parliaments of two different countries, sometimes in honorary or symbolic capacities.“ Ralf Dahrendorf was fairly briefly a FDP member of the Bundestag (and federal minister) and then later a Lib Dem member of the House of Lords. He did a spell in the European Commission in between. His liberal wonkish intellectual ideas that traditional marxist class conflict is just part of a broader narrative of conflict between society's powerful and oppressed are quite interesting in today's world of culture wars and "left behind" populism. Don't know that there are that many senior FDP politicos that would naturally gravitate to the Lib Dems these days. a parlamentarischer Staatssekretär, so sort of equivalent to a junior minister in the UK but not what we'd refer to as a 'Minister'. Fascinating man though. |
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Post by norflondon on Jun 5, 2024 23:14:05 GMT
Sir Keir says he would not use his millions* to speed up care for a loved one.
JE: If you had a loved one on a long waiting list for surgery, would you, if you felt that that was the only way forward, use private healthcare?
RS: YES
KS: NO
One hopes for his sake, something will not be unearthed that contradicts the sanctimonious response.
* this cannot be an unreasonable assumption. While as DPP he was on around £190,000 pa, whilst also reportedly claiming £160,000 in travel expenses. Also he accrued £336,000 in pension benefits during his DPP time. And he has been on around £125,000 for the last four years.
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Post by observer on Jun 5, 2024 23:17:28 GMT
Sir Keir says he would not use his millions* to speed up care for a loved one. JE: If you had a loved one on a long waiting list for surgery, would you, if you felt that that was the only way forward, use private healthcare? RS: YES KS: NO What chances something will be unearthed that contradicts Sir Keir's sanctimonious response? * this cannot be an unreasonable assumption. While as DPP he was on around £190,000 pa, whilst also reportedly claiming £160,000 in travel expenses. Also he accrued £336,000 in pension benefits during his DPP time. And he has been on around £125,000 for the last four years. He's been overpaid |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 6, 2024 9:29:13 GMT
Wishing for people's personal medical details to be leaked is, I think, a new low for this forum. Not in a strictly moral sense, of course: there have been so many utterly depraved posts over the years that making that kind of assessment is impossible and pointless. But a new low in the sense of 'oh I don't think we've had that one before'. What an utterly charming individual you must be.
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Post by norflondon on Jun 6, 2024 11:42:18 GMT
Do not be nasty, I do NOT want it to happen, I was asking whether that might be something that arises as healthcare is complicated and being extremely busy he may forgotten that he used a private provider at some point, in similar circumstances to what was being asked during the debate.
There is also the thought ofc as with all leaders, a controversy/scandal is half expected, what with our wretched newspaper industry. It was also, mostppl agree, the oddest questionput in a leaders debate.
BTW given the realistic choices, I do want Sir Keir to become PM.
You should withdraw your assumption that I want this to happen.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 6, 2024 11:46:54 GMT
Wishing for people's personal medical details to be leaked is, I think, a new low for this forum. Not in a strictly moral sense, of course: there have been so many utterly depraved posts over the years that making that kind of assessment is impossible and pointless. But a new low in the sense of 'oh I don't think we've had that one before'. What an utterly charming individual you must be. This post was liked by @weld ... |
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Post by edgbaston on Jun 6, 2024 11:53:30 GMT
Wishing for people's personal medical details to be leaked is, I think, a new low for this forum. Not in a strictly moral sense, of course: there have been so many utterly depraved posts over the years that making that kind of assessment is impossible and pointless. But a new low in the sense of 'oh I don't think we've had that one before'. What an utterly charming individual you must be. In fairness that’s not what he said. |
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Post by johnloony on Jun 6, 2024 12:04:14 GMT
Wishing for people's personal medical details to be leaked is, I think, a new low for this forum.. You haven’t quoted the bit you are replying to; I don’t know what or whom you referring to; and I don’t see anything written by anybody to suggest or demand such a thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2024 12:08:15 GMT
Wishing for people's personal medical details to be leaked is, I think, a new low for this forum. Not in a strictly moral sense, of course: there have been so many utterly depraved posts over the years that making that kind of assessment is impossible and pointless. But a new low in the sense of 'oh I don't think we've had that one before'. What an utterly charming individual you must be. This post was liked by @weld ... ? |
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Post by batman on Jun 6, 2024 15:08:45 GMT
Wishing for people's personal medical details to be leaked is, I think, a new low for this forum.. You haven’t quoted the bit you are replying to; I don’t know what or whom you referring to; and I don’t see anything written by anybody to suggest or demand such a thing. he didn't say specifically that they should, he said it might happen in a tone which led some to think that he would not object to it, or would positively welcome it. |
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Post by norflondon on Jun 6, 2024 18:48:50 GMT
Happy to withdraw the speculation I originated and say 'sorry' for it, if a person, or more, read my speculation as me wanting such a thing to happen
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 7, 2024 16:42:34 GMT
SOPN www.camden.gov.uk/documents/d/guest/notice-of-poll-and-sits-of-ps-holborn-and-st-pancras-1Brick, Nick the Incredible Flying - The Official Monster Raving Loony Party Clinton, Charlie - Liberal Democrats Feinstein, Andrew Josef - no description Islam, Wais - Independent Kumar, Senthil - Independent Malik, Mehreen - The Conservative Party Candidate Poynton, John Edmund - UK Independence Party Roberts, David - Reform UK Scripps, Tom - Socialist Equality Party Smith, Bobby Elmo - no description Stansell, David Robert - Green Party Starmer, Keir - Labour Party |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2024 12:29:01 GMT
Apropos of nothing, but Respect got 25% in St Pancras & Somers Town in 2006. I think the types of people who may have voted for them in the 2000s here might vote for Andrew Feinstein. Still, you could also make the case that the kinds of people who voted Lib Dem around the universities (SOAS, UCL and others) here might lend their vote to Feinstein, but the Greens would seem a more obvious choice. This seat is different because it doesn't contain the Green-Labour battleground in Highgate. There was no sign of an election when I was here yesterday. FWIW, the Workers' Party got 8% in St Pancras & Somers Town (a heavily Bangladeshi area) in 2022. before the war in Gaza. LAB 58 GRN 14 LD 11 FEINSTEIN 10 CON 6 OTH 1 |
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Post by norflondon on Jun 13, 2024 12:28:20 GMT
Maybe that's why Sir Keir name checked Somers Town today in the manifesto launch. It's a huge social housing estate.
Some there might be surprised as Sir Keir has mentioned Somers Town only once in the last 9 years in the HoC (and that was about HS2). And he's never mentioned Somers Town on Twitter other when going round there a few times, canvassing in GE2019.
I think he might be the first LOTO, whose party is ahead in the polls, to see his personal vote share depressed, reduced from last time.
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Post by Rutlander on Jun 13, 2024 12:30:33 GMT
Feinstein has the (tweeted) support of Eric Clapton - the man who inspired Rock Against Racism (and not in a good way)
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Jun 13, 2024 12:40:34 GMT
Given his history, I am not surprised he's supportive of a Corbynite. They tend to have the same, err, obsessions.
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Post by Rutlander on Jun 13, 2024 12:43:45 GMT
Given his history, I am not surprised he's supportive of a Corbynite. They tend to have the same, err, obsessions. The tweet began "Along with my dear friend Roger Waters ..." so I can not disgree with you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2024 14:36:05 GMT
20% Muslim (40th in the country) and 21% students (18th highest) - he won't win (surely not), but Andrew Feinstein fishing in a big pond here.
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Post by john07 on Jun 13, 2024 14:39:33 GMT
20% Muslim (40th in the country) and 21% students (18th highest) - he won't win (surely not), but Andrew Feinstein fishing in a big pond here. What students for a July election? |
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Post by birkinabe on Jun 13, 2024 14:54:35 GMT
20% Muslim (40th in the country) and 21% students (18th highest) - he won't win (surely not), but Andrew Feinstein fishing in a big pond here. What students for a July election?
In any case, I'm sceptical he'd be the natural choice of protest vote here for students unhappy with Labour/Starmer over Gaza. The main beneficiary there would probably be the Green candidate; Feinstein's vote here will likely be most concentrated in Somers Town and other similar areas.
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