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Post by ccoleman on Oct 14, 2024 2:44:03 GMT
It would’ve been more entertaining viewing. Left-wing Labour supporting a workers’ Brexit. Neoliberal Tories supporting the status quo. You obviously weren’t around in 1975. Most people weren't tbf. |
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Post by john07 on Oct 14, 2024 12:38:35 GMT
You obviously weren’t around in 1975. Most people weren't tbf. Fair comment but most can read about it. |
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Post by bsjmcr on Oct 22, 2024 0:43:38 GMT
I started typing this in the Bristol Central thread then thought better to put it here than divert that thread - originated when someone mentioned Liam Conlon and I had to look him up, and saw the 12,000 majority under his name and more so the ‘Beckenham’ name and thought it was a mistake. It’s not an area I know well - is this a case of the Penge massively outweighing the Beckenham*? Yet he got a hefty tally of votes (same cannot he said in many Labour holds or gains!) and an almost 10% increase.
Is it the sort of not quite inner-city (where there was considerable swing away from Labour to Greens/Indys) fairly middle class seat where there was actual enthusiasm for Starmer’s Labour Party, and not a hefty Reform vote that ‘let Labour in?’ with relatively few votes? The northern equivalent I can think of is Macclesfield for example.
Yet even this isn’t uniform - in other middle class London marginals such as Hendon where surely they should have sailed home but scraped in by 15? The Labour increase in C’Barnet was pretty modest too and Theresa Villers didn’t embarrass herself.
I wonder if there is a list of/classification (not another ‘wall’!) of Labour-gained seats where the Reform vote isn’t greater than the Labour majority and has a decent (say 10%+) increase in Labour share?
*Pete’s notional answers that question (I think!) though surprising it wouldn’t have been in 1997.
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Post by batman on Oct 22, 2024 8:51:29 GMT
have a look at my profile of this constituency in the Almanac section here, and much will be explained. Basically, the Beckenham part is still just about Conservative taken as a whole, but much less so than say a decade ago, and Labour is extremely dominant in the 3 "Penge" wards - Penge & Cator, Crystal Palace & Anerley, and Clock House. In the last-named, there has been a huge improvement in Labour's position in the last decade, it's become a much more inner city multi-occupied area than it once was. These 3 wards rack up a very large Labour lead, with Penge & Cator being particularly overwhelming despite a residual Tory vote in the Cator part of the ward, and of the 4 Beckenham wards Labour are now competitive in two, and only behind in two - and even there by significantly less than was the case a few years ago.
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