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Post by observer on Jun 4, 2024 17:26:22 GMT
Perhaps your chosen media downplayed the post-ref murders. You should read more widely Perhaps you should attempt to support the bullshit you write with evidence. Or better still, don't post it in the first place. You doubt what I wrote? All I can suggest is that you read more widely |
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Post by john07 on Jun 4, 2024 17:28:49 GMT
You failed miserably to mention that she was murdered by a far right supporter. I didn't raise the subject of her. That was Strontium. But neither does the example negate my claim of the propensity to hatred being far stronger on the left. If you read up the thread you'll see that I was raising the subject of hatred and incivility towards Farage. That may give you some helpful context I would imagine that Farage would be disappointed if his antics did not produce ‘incivility’. |
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Post by Strontium Dog on Jun 4, 2024 17:32:19 GMT
Perhaps you should attempt to support the bullshit you write with evidence. Or better still, don't post it in the first place. You doubt what I wrote? All I can suggest is that you read more widely I can assure you that your repeated failure to support your claims is not due to any lack of reading on my part. |
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Post by observer on Jun 4, 2024 17:40:45 GMT
You doubt what I wrote? All I can suggest is that you read more widely I can assure you that your repeated failure to support your claims is not due to any lack of reading on my part. Do your own research. Stop being so idle. Within five seconds of googling I found Duncan Keating, RIP, murdered by an infuriated Remain-voting neighbour. Now do some research. And open your mind to reality |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Jun 4, 2024 17:48:21 GMT
I didn't raise the subject of her. That was Strontium. But neither does the example negate my claim of the propensity to hatred being far stronger on the left. If you read up the thread you'll see that I was raising the subject of hatred and incivility towards Farage. That may give you some helpful context I would imagine that Farage would be disappointed if his antics did not produce ‘incivility’. A party leader campaigning in a General Election campaign counts as "antics" now? |
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Post by observer on Jun 4, 2024 17:50:10 GMT
I would imagine that Farage would be disappointed if his antics did not produce ‘incivility’. A party leader campaigning in a General Election campaign counts as "antics" now? They're frightened |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jun 4, 2024 17:54:16 GMT
When the dust settles, images such as this will form part of the tapestry of the campaign. Farage is a provocative person, who does not shy from confrontation. That's not victim blaming (🙄), it's the fact of an outspoken personality on the campaign trial. It happened with John Prescott and the egg, which was laughed off as "John being John".  |
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Post by Strontium Dog on Jun 4, 2024 17:55:02 GMT
I can assure you that your repeated failure to support your claims is not due to any lack of reading on my part. Do your own research. Stop being so idle. Within five seconds of googling I found Duncan Keating, RIP, murdered by an infuriated Remain-voting neighbour. Now do some research. And open your mind to reality He wasn't murdered though, was he. The neighbour was convicted of ABH, not murder. A few minutes ago you had three Leavers who were murdered by Remainers. Now after Googling, you've found one Leaver who died from breathing difficulties after consuming alcohol, methadone and cannabis. Perhaps it's not me who needs to do some research? Just a thought. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 4, 2024 18:02:18 GMT
Ah, the old "doesn't stand for me, doesn't represent anything believe in, or any of the people around here, doesn't represent us, not from here" so I attacked him in the street. If we're going to re-visit this absurd "milk-shaking" craze from 2019 then I hope charges will be pressed wherever possible - it's not okay to assault someone just because you don't want to vote for them. (Though I fully expect the usual suspects from the hard-left to come back out of the woodwork - both here and in the media - to defend it.) Edit: Note that last time the perpetrator was convicted: www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jun/18/nigel-farage-milkshake-attacker-pleads-guilty-to-common-assaultPizza, egg, milkshake, custard pies, it's all part of a tradition which used to be welcomed and considered part of the course. Why should it? Are you willing to have an unimpressed punter do it to you at work if they think it's important enough? |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 4, 2024 18:02:38 GMT
Leaving aside moral considerations, if you really dislike Farage this sort of thing isn't a particular clever thing to do. Not because it will produce a wave of sympathy (he's too polarizing for that, as we've seen before), but because it means the media can give him attention as part of an ordinary news item and not as part of his party's rather limited designated share of election airtime.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 4, 2024 18:07:02 GMT
There is nothing new about objects being thrown at politicians. During the 1970 campaign Harold Wilson was hit on several occasions by eggs thrown at him. In 1966 a schoolboy at a public meeting managed to hit him with a stink bomb. In the last 8 years, two MPs have been killed by politically motivated lunatics. If you and others cannot see how that has changed the paradigm then you are an idiot. The bloke who threw the egg at Prescott had a lot to answer for. We all laughed it off because Prezza could handle himself. But it was not acceptable behaviour. And the reason it was and is unacceptable is because nobody is willing to have it happen to them in their own workplace. If you're happy to throw stuff at a politician, is it acceptable for your colleagues to throw shit at you? |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 4, 2024 19:04:10 GMT
Pizza, egg, milkshake, custard pies, it's all part of a tradition which used to be welcomed and considered part of the course. I’m ok with someone throwing a Custard Pie, but Milkshake/drink is just crass. Well, you shouldn't be. Anyone throwing anything or spraying or otherwise disrupting should be arrested, arraigned, judged and gaoled. Is it alright to throw custard pies at the King, the Lord Mayor, a film star at an awards ceremony, the PM, a councillor or your Mother when shopping? If not, then it is not alright to do it to Farage or any other candidate. It causes real damage to clothing, and real shock and distress to those hit suddenly and unexpectedly. I should not have to explain this to decent civilized people! |
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Post by rcronald on Jun 4, 2024 19:06:22 GMT
I’m ok with someone throwing a Custard Pie, but Milkshake/drink is just crass. Well, you shouldn't be. Anyone throwing anything or spraying or otherwise disrupting should be arrested, arraigned, judged and gaoled. Is it alright to throw custard pies at the King, the Lord Mayor, a film star at an awards ceremony, the PM, a councillor or your Mother when shopping? If not, then it is not alright to do it to Farage or any other candidate. It causes real damage to clothing, and real shock and distress to those hit suddenly and unexpectedly. I should not have to explain this to decent civilized people! look, I personally find all of them to be uncivilised, but at least custard pie requires some effort and is generally considered to be a comedic classic (even if classless). |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 4, 2024 19:10:48 GMT
Well, you shouldn't be. Anyone throwing anything or spraying or otherwise disrupting should be arrested, arraigned, judged and gaoled. Is it alright to throw custard pies at the King, the Lord Mayor, a film star at an awards ceremony, the PM, a councillor or your Mother when shopping? If not, then it is not alright to do it to Farage or any other candidate. It causes real damage to clothing, and real shock and distress to those hit suddenly and unexpectedly. I should not have to explain this to decent civilized people! look, I personally find all of them to be uncivilised, but at least custard pie requires some effort and is generally considered to be a comedic classic (even if classless). Ho Ho bloody Ho! So it is alright to deliver a sharp shock that might severely damage health and to ruin a good suit just for comedic purposes and to satisfy dimwit sense of traditional hustings. Woden help us! |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jun 4, 2024 19:13:26 GMT
I’m ok with someone throwing a Custard Pie, but Milkshake/drink is just crass. Well, you shouldn't be. Anyone throwing anything or spraying or otherwise disrupting should be arrested, arraigned, judged and gaoled. Is it alright to throw custard pies at the King, the Lord Mayor, a film star at an awards ceremony, the PM, a councillor or your Mother when shopping? If not, then it is not alright to do it to Farage or any other candidate. It causes real damage to clothing, and real shock and distress to those hit suddenly and unexpectedly. I should not have to explain this to decent civilized people! I offer to you the law of unintended consequences. This government has cracked down on the right to protest and Suella etc wants to go further. We should be careful just how far down the road we go. Protecting politicians from the slightest chance of a missile would only restrict freedom of assembly yet further. Freedom is very easily taken away and rarely returned. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jun 4, 2024 19:14:09 GMT
When the dust settles, images such as this will form part of the tapestry of the campaign. Farage is a provocative person, who does not shy from confrontation. That's not victim blaming (🙄), it's the fact of an outspoken personality on the campaign trial. It happened with John Prescott and the egg, which was laughed off as "John being John".
Every time something like this happens, Farage's and Reform's support will go up. Labour support noticably up-blipped after John Prescot punched that idiot.
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Post by andrewp on Jun 4, 2024 19:16:02 GMT
When the dust settles, images such as this will form part of the tapestry of the campaign. Farage is a provocative person, who does not shy from confrontation. That's not victim blaming (🙄), it's the fact of an outspoken personality on the campaign trial. It happened with John Prescott and the egg, which was laughed off as "John being John".
Every time something like this happens, Farage's and Reform's support will go up. Labour support noticably up-blipped after John Prescot punched that idiot.
There’s a suggestion on Twitter, accompanied by photos, that she ‘may’ be a friend of his |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 4, 2024 19:16:35 GMT
Well, you shouldn't be. Anyone throwing anything or spraying or otherwise disrupting should be arrested, arraigned, judged and gaoled. Is it alright to throw custard pies at the King, the Lord Mayor, a film star at an awards ceremony, the PM, a councillor or your Mother when shopping? If not, then it is not alright to do it to Farage or any other candidate. It causes real damage to clothing, and real shock and distress to those hit suddenly and unexpectedly. I should not have to explain this to decent civilized people! I offer to you the law of unintended consequences. This government has cracked down on the right to protest and Suella etc wants to go further. We should be careful just how far down the road we go. Protecting politicians from the slightest chance of a missile would only restrict freedom of assembly yet further. Freedom is very easily taken away and rarely returned. So you are actually stupid enough to see pieing and milkshaking a candidate as an ancient freedom and right now being restricted? Yes! I suppose you really are that stupid as you have just said it. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 4, 2024 19:19:44 GMT
Every time something like this happens, Farage's and Reform's support will go up. Labour support noticably up-blipped after John Prescot punched that idiot.
There’s a suggestion on Twitter, accompanied by photos, that she ‘may’ be a friend of his It wasn't Emily Hewitson if that's what you mean |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 4, 2024 19:23:05 GMT
Well, you shouldn't be. Anyone throwing anything or spraying or otherwise disrupting should be arrested, arraigned, judged and gaoled. Is it alright to throw custard pies at the King, the Lord Mayor, a film star at an awards ceremony, the PM, a councillor or your Mother when shopping? If not, then it is not alright to do it to Farage or any other candidate. It causes real damage to clothing, and real shock and distress to those hit suddenly and unexpectedly. I should not have to explain this to decent civilized people! I offer to you the law of unintended consequences. This government has cracked down on the right to protest and Suella etc wants to go further. We should be careful just how far down the road we go. Protecting politicians from the slightest chance of a missile would only restrict freedom of assembly yet further. Freedom is very easily taken away and rarely returned. Again, are you happy to be the target of such a definition of freedom of assembly? We're in the middle of a German election campaign that has seen two SPD and one CDU politician hospitalised (one battered with his own placard), the vice-chancellor trapped on a ferry, and a policeman murdered. Not to mention a dozen other candidates assaulted. We're never going to have good politicians if we deem it fair game for people to have shit flung at them or for them to be twatted by people who can't control their emotions. |
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