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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 10, 2024 10:27:01 GMT
Its the historical heritage from Mussolini and his successors, though that is likely to become less important over time. What is really odd, on that line, is that Alessandra Mussolini is a member of the EPP these days. |
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Post by rcronald on Jun 10, 2024 10:27:55 GMT
Its the historical heritage from Mussolini and his successors, though that is likely to become less important over time. What is really odd, on that line, is that Alessandra Mussolini is a member of the EPP these days. and on the socially liberal end of EPP..: |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 10, 2024 10:46:41 GMT
The BBC seem to think that this was an election between the SPD and AfD. Voters "seduced by simple solutions", unmoved by the apparent brilliance of Scholzomat and Katie B.
No consideration that:
- the government is unpopular.
- Scholz is considered a ditherer and there's a bingo card for you to play every time he speaks.
- the Union are back and are on top in almost every district in the west.
- the eastern states combined have roughly the same electorate as Bavaria. And the AfD vote in the west is why they are second.
- the Hessen state election showed pretty clearly that SPD voters have been moving to the CDU and even directly to the AfD.
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Post by andrea on Jun 10, 2024 11:04:49 GMT
Italy
63.421 out of 63.905 reported
Brothers of Italy 28.77%
Democratic Party 24.09%
5 Stars 9.98%
Forza Italia 9.61%
Lega 8.99%
Green Left 6.76%
United States of Europe (Renzi+Bonino) 3.77%
Azione (Calenda) 3.35%
Seats should split
Brothers of Italy 25 (+19)
PD 20 (+1)
5 Stars 8 (-6)
Forza Italia 8 (+1)
Lega 8 (-21)
Green Left 6 (+6)
SVP 1 (=)
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 10, 2024 11:21:36 GMT
So another vehicle for Renzi's ego has failed electorally? Becoming a bit of a habit now.
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 10, 2024 11:22:09 GMT
So another vehicle for Renzi's ego failed electorally? Becoming a bit of a habit now. Everyone should have a hobby. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 10, 2024 11:56:40 GMT
So another vehicle for Renzi's ego has failed electorally? Becoming a bit of a habit now. Renzi AND Bonino. Even more ego! |
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Post by edgbaston on Jun 10, 2024 12:13:32 GMT
The BBC seem to think that this was an election between the SPD and AfD. Voters "seduced by simple solutions", unmoved by the apparent brilliance of Scholzomat and Katie B. No consideration that: - the government is unpopular. - Scholz is considered a ditherer and there's a bingo card for you to play every time he speaks. - the Union are back and are on top in almost every district in the west. - the eastern states combined have roughly the same electorate as Bavaria. And the AfD vote in the west is why they are second. - the Hessen state election showed pretty clearly that SPD voters have been moving to the CDU and even directly to the AfD. The BBC is stuck in a narrative time warp. The far right have been ‘about’ to take over Europe for the entire time I have followed politics. Apart from in France where this isn’t possible as the whole county was far right to begin with. |
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Post by rcronald on Jun 10, 2024 12:16:35 GMT
The BBC seem to think that this was an election between the SPD and AfD. Voters "seduced by simple solutions", unmoved by the apparent brilliance of Scholzomat and Katie B. No consideration that: - the government is unpopular. - Scholz is considered a ditherer and there's a bingo card for you to play every time he speaks. - the Union are back and are on top in almost every district in the west. - the eastern states combined have roughly the same electorate as Bavaria. And the AfD vote in the west is why they are second. - the Hessen state election showed pretty clearly that SPD voters have been moving to the CDU and even directly to the AfD. The BBC is stuck in a narrative time warp. The far right have been ‘about’ to take over Europe for the entire time I have followed politics. Apart from in France where this isn’t possible as the whole county was far right to begin with. They also ignore that some of the so called ‘far-right’ parties don’t end up being the nearly as extreme as they told us(Fdl,SD,DF,PS) |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 10, 2024 12:19:46 GMT
The BBC is stuck in a narrative time warp. The far right have been ‘about’ to take over Europe for the entire time I have followed politics. Apart from in France where this isn’t possible as the whole county was far right to begin with. They also ignore that some of the so called ‘far-right’ parties don’t end up being the nearly as extreme as they told us(Fdl,SD,DF,PS) Presumably you don't mean the Parti socialiste, but then they did provide a collaborator as president! |
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Post by rcronald on Jun 10, 2024 12:22:50 GMT
They also ignore that some of the so called ‘far-right’ parties don’t end up being the nearly as extreme as they told us(Fdl,SD,DF,PS) Presumably you don't mean the Parti socialiste, but then they did provide a collaborator as president! True Finns. |
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Post by Peter Wilkinson on Jun 10, 2024 12:40:17 GMT
So another vehicle for Renzi's ego failed electorally? Becoming a bit of a habit now. Everyone should have a hobby. Yes, but is one which ensures that, in an election where over 85% of all votes count, over a quarter of the remaining votes don't, really a sensible or a desirable one? |
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 10, 2024 12:59:10 GMT
Everyone should have a hobby. Yes, but is one which ensures that, in an election where over 85% of all votes count, over a quarter of the remaining votes don't, really a sensible or a desirable one? I was thinking more of his hobby of moving parties and then losing. |
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Post by edgbaston on Jun 10, 2024 13:39:47 GMT
Everyone should have a hobby. Yes, but is one which ensures that, in an election where over 85% of all votes count, over a quarter of the remaining votes don't, really a sensible or a desirable one? Votes still count even if they don’t go to a winning candidate/party. It’s called ‘loosing’ |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 10, 2024 13:42:18 GMT
They also ignore that some of the so called ‘far-right’ parties don’t end up being the nearly as extreme as they told us(Fdl,SD,DF,PS) I would rate SD at least as still fairly extreme tbh. |
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Post by rcronald on Jun 10, 2024 13:44:02 GMT
They also ignore that some of the so called ‘far-right’ parties don’t end up being the nearly as extreme as they told us(Fdl,SD,DF,PS) I would rate SD at least as still fairly extreme tbh. But relatively to how they were presented by the media (basically as neo-nazis), they are not extreme. |
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Post by mrpastelito on Jun 10, 2024 14:02:32 GMT
When will East Germany get levelling up funding? One could even argue it's still three countries if you look at the 2nd places map: AfD are second in BW and Bavaria, SPD in the other 'old' Bundeslaender. 1871 wasn't that long ago. |
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Post by noorderling on Jun 10, 2024 14:46:23 GMT
app.nos.nl/nieuws/ep2024/Link to individual results for every city, and to extra info (like where did the party votes came from, where did the 2023 votes go.) Among other things it shows that more than 60% of CDA voters did not vote for that party in 2023.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jun 10, 2024 15:01:42 GMT
The BBC seem to think that this was an election between the SPD and AfD. Voters "seduced by simple solutions", unmoved by the apparent brilliance of Scholzomat and Katie B. No consideration that: - the government is unpopular. - Scholz is considered a ditherer and there's a bingo card for you to play every time he speaks. - the Union are back and are on top in almost every district in the west. - the eastern states combined have roughly the same electorate as Bavaria. And the AfD vote in the west is why they are second. - the Hessen state election showed pretty clearly that SPD voters have been moving to the CDU and even directly to the AfD. Coverage of this year's elections in the UK has been broadly awful. |
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Post by aargauer on Jun 10, 2024 15:07:33 GMT
The BBC seem to think that this was an election between the SPD and AfD. Voters "seduced by simple solutions", unmoved by the apparent brilliance of Scholzomat and Katie B. No consideration that: - the government is unpopular. - Scholz is considered a ditherer and there's a bingo card for you to play every time he speaks. - the Union are back and are on top in almost every district in the west. - the eastern states combined have roughly the same electorate as Bavaria. And the AfD vote in the west is why they are second. - the Hessen state election showed pretty clearly that SPD voters have been moving to the CDU and even directly to the AfD. The BBC is stuck in a narrative time warp. The far right have been ‘about’ to take over Europe for the entire time I have followed politics. Apart from in France where this isn’t possible as the whole county was far right to begin with. Far left with or without racism! |
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