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Post by jamie on May 24, 2024 21:31:29 GMT
A party which has long struck me as an odd fit for the loons and ~fascists of ID. DF have no fascist past at all and are simply an anti-immigration party which on a number of issues is probably more left wing and progressive than some EPP members! DF essentially collapsed because the Social Democrats became them! Yet weirdly enough they now find themselves the only true anti-immigration party, with the centre and right backing mass economic migration and the left (liberals) still backing refugees. I mean, SF now arguably have the 2nd most hardline foreigner policy in reality (even if nobody would want to admit it). Nonetheless, DF’s polling remains terrible and there’s no real sign of a backlash. |
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 26, 2024 11:33:37 GMT
Austria's TheGreens nominated for leading their EP-list a young climateActivist, who was campaigning on "Europe needs heart":  But now DerStandard - Austria's Guardian - revealed, that she has intrigued and manipulated others (all inside the climaReligion-bubble) by accusing them incorrectly of rape, sexual misConDuct, violence aso. Becomes even more entertaining: That she liked leftExtremists or "Austria You Nazis", was without public outCry, of course. But now several people claim, that she called TheGreens the worst imaginable and has intended to join immediately after the election the faction of TheLeft... A new facet: Turns out, she called herself in her curriculum vitae a "danceTeacher" - but this title requires here a public exAmination! What i forgot: An actually left ("antiFa" aso.) comedian asked her, whether Norway uses the Euro - and as a typical present-day student (for "politology") she didn't know; thus also not, that Norway is not even an EU-member... |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 27, 2024 17:30:55 GMT
There is a debate of sorts on German telly tonight. Appearing are:
- Katharina Barley (SPD lead candidate in Germany)
- Julia Klöckner (CDU, former minister)
- Marie-Agnes Strack-Zimmermann (Renew's Spitzenkandidatin)
- Fabio Di Masi (BSW lead candidate)
- Leif-Erik Holm (AfD deputy in the Bundestag, not exactly a household name unless you're a former listener of FFM Hit Radio in Frankfurt am Main)
- Anton Hofreiter (Green, of the paint-by-numbers type)
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Post by hullenedge on May 28, 2024 15:02:10 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 28, 2024 18:11:54 GMT
An amusing fact. In 2022, there were as many MEPs under 30 as there were MEPs called Martin.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 28, 2024 18:18:48 GMT
Becomes even more entertaining: That she liked leftExtremists or "Austria You Nazis", was without public outCry, of course. But now several people claim, that she called TheGreens the worst imaginable and has intended to join immediately after the election the faction of TheLeft... A new facet: Turns out, she called herself in her curriculum vitae a "danceTeacher" - but this title requires here a public exAmination! What i forgot: An actually left ("antiFa" aso.) comedian asked her, whether Norway uses the Euro - and as a typical present-day student (for "politology") she didn't know; thus also not, that Norway is not even an EU-member... It has now hit Politico. Including a mega-dodgy comment by another Green. www.politico.eu/article/austria-greens-eu-election-2024-lena-schilling-affair/The Greens are now only narrowly ahead of the Beer Party. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 28, 2024 21:37:51 GMT
It seems increasingly likely that the Socialists and Renew are going to torpedo vdL if she accepts support from Meloni.
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Post by Georg Ebner on May 29, 2024 0:55:13 GMT
A new facet: Turns out, she called herself in her curriculum vitae a "danceTeacher" - but this title requires here a public exAmination! What i forgot: An actually left ("antiFa" aso.) comedian asked her, whether Norway uses the Euro - and as a typical present-day student (for "politology") she didn't know; thus also not, that Norway is not even an EU-member... It has now hit Politico. Including a mega-dodgy comment by another Green. www.politico.eu/article/austria-greens-eu-election-2024-lena-schilling-affair/The Greens are now only narrowly ahead of the Beer Party. Linking this causa to FPÖ's fate is bizarre: Vilimsky proposing Orban as EU-president was absolutely no issue for the public. Also not the FPÖ-poster against warMongering (and problematic was more than v.d.Leyen to put Zelenskij on it). Plus that FPÖ tried to keep AfD within ID or that Kickl refused once to call the Waffen-SS a criminal organization has anyWay emerged now as a new topic. I saw already a poll with Beer & Greens both tied at 8%. Addendum: Then the fama of her deFection was not just claimed by 1 person, but by several (among them german politicians; as a conSequence Spiegel - which has zero interEst in damaging her or the austrian Greens - came out with the story.) |
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Post by rcronald on May 29, 2024 3:34:34 GMT
Their Green numbers seem higher than that of every other pollster, and their ECR numbers are lower than that of every other pollster. |
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Post by thinwhiteduke on Jun 2, 2024 12:43:14 GMT
Sunday Independent/Ireland Thinks constituency polling : Dublin (4 seats) (May 30-31, MoE 4.5%) Doherty (FG) 15.0 Andrews* (FF) 14.1 L Boylan (SF) 11.2 N Boylan (II) 9.2 Daly* (I4C) 8.3 Cuffe* (GP) 7.4 Ó Ríordáin (Lab) 7.4 Smith (PBP-S) 4.8 Gibney (SD) 4.6 Doolan (SF) 3.4 Ireland South (5 seats) (May 30-31, MoE 3.9%) Kelly* (FG) 18.5 Kelleher* (FF) 14.4 McNamara (Ind) 9.9 Funchion (SF) 9.5 O’Sullivan* (GP) 6.2 Gavan (SF) 5.7 Wallace* (I4C) 4.7 Ní Mhurchú (FF) 4.6 Blighe (IF) 4.3 Mullins (FG) 4.2 Midlands North-West (5 seats) (May 30-31, MoE 4%) Walsh* (FG) 12.5 Flanagan* (Ind) 12.1 Cowen (FF) 10.5 Tóibín (Aon) 7.5 Gildernew (SF) 7.2 Carberry (FG) 7.0 Mullooly (II) 6.4 MacManus* (SF) 5.6 Chambers (FF) 5.3 Hearne (SD) 4.4 x.com/gavreilly/status/1797155096402305121?t=Z6useipLYOc3p3NCjoS0Kw&s=19 |
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Jun 2, 2024 12:56:45 GMT
Poor numbers for Daly and woeful for Wallace. They won't be getting huge transfers from eliminated SF candidates like they did in 2019 so if those numbers ae anything like accurate Wallace will be out and Daly is in big trouble.
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Post by irish observer on Jun 2, 2024 17:37:37 GMT
Final Euro Prediction in Ireland based on how I see it at the moment:
Ireland South (5): 1FG, 1FF, 2IND, 1SF, (GRN & FG loss to SF & IND)
Dublin (4): 1FF, 1SF, 1I4C, 1FG (GRN loss to SF)
Midlands-NW (5): 1FG, 1IND, 1FF, 1SF, 1IND (FG loss to FF and IND gain extra seat)
This is a volatile electorate here at the moment and volatility will be a bigger factor in the Euros than the Locals due to the incumbency factor.
With a multiplier effect I expect SF to make gains in Euro seats (2 more) but while gaining local seats also multiple candidates over a split vote can heamorage #1 votes, its happened before, will it again I don't know. I think all major parties will lose seats at this moment and I include smaller parties like Labour, Greens, SocDems et al except SF while FG and FF also will. Independents will become the major winner in the local elections. Unclear as of yet of the scale. Retirements a major factor in several Council areas as personal votes reduce.
Irish local elections will have a larger electorate than the Euros as every resident can vote be you a citizen or not. In Euros only EU Citizens so UK Citizens can only vote in locals. Expect some confusion at polling stations over ballots for mr x and not mr y. At a time when immigration is a major issue if the new-Irish register and vote who will they vote for?
The Irishtallyman will emerge again with the clipboard and pen/pencil and be the centre of attention at count centre from Malin Head to Mizen from 8.45 on Saturday am until about 12.30 on Saturday morning as in some areas first counts may not yet be in. Expect the Euro Count to run for c.4 days with possible questionable tallies as the Tallypeople will prioritise the LE Count first. Most first 100% tallies known by Noon on Saturday or 1pm. Earlier ones tend to show a regional disparity.
Enjoy your smorgasboard election. Signing out until after the Count.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jun 2, 2024 20:22:17 GMT
Final Euro Prediction in Ireland based on how I see it at the moment: Ireland South (5): 1FG, 1FF, 2IND, 1SF, (GRN & FG loss to SF & IND) Dublin (4): 1FF, 1SF, 1I4C, 1FG (GRN loss to SF) Midlands-NW (5): 1FG, 1IND, 1FF, 1SF, 1IND (FG loss to FF and IND gain extra seat) This is a volatile electorate here at the moment and volatility will be a bigger factor in the Euros than the Locals due to the incumbency factor. With a multiplier effect I expect SF to make gains in Euro seats (2 more) but while gaining local seats also multiple candidates over a split vote can heamorage #1 votes, its happened before, will it again I don't know. I think all major parties will lose seats at this moment and I include smaller parties like Labour, Greens, SocDems et al except SF while FG and FF also will. Independents will become the major winner in the local elections. Unclear as of yet of the scale. Retirements a major factor in several Council areas as personal votes reduce. Irish local elections will have a larger electorate than the Euros as every resident can vote be you a citizen or not. In Euros only EU Citizens so UK Citizens can only vote in locals. Expect some confusion at polling stations over ballots for mr x and not mr y. At a time when immigration is a major issue if the new-Irish register and vote who will they vote for? The Irishtallyman will emerge again with the clipboard and pen/pencil and be the centre of attention at count centre from Malin Head to Mizen from 8.45 on Saturday am until about 12.30 on Saturday morning as in some areas first counts may not yet be in. Expect the Euro Count to run for c.4 days with possible questionable tallies as the Tallypeople will prioritise the LE Count first. Most first 100% tallies known by Noon on Saturday or 1pm. Earlier ones tend to show a regional disparity. Enjoy your smorgasboard election. Signing out until after the Count. I am confused by your seeing two Independents in Midlands-NW; whilst Ming Flanagan has had a good campaign and may have fought off the threat of losing due to a lack of SF transfers (as they have 2 candidates), I really do not see another Independent being elected. I assume you are predicting Ciaran Mullooly, who is standing for the Ireland Independent Party (so not actually an Independent), but where, based on the most recent polls, are his transfers coming from? FG, FF, Flanagan and SF are probably sure, then the last MEP between a 2nd FG, Aontu or Ireland Independent. Having said that, I am not sure I trust polls of such enormous constituencies, |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 2, 2024 21:24:09 GMT
There's an Esperanto list in France. Has anyone spotted one elsewhere?
France also had a list called Les Nationalists, who apparently have previously described Jean-Marie Le Pen as being controlled by Israel. Which gives you an understanding of their position on the spectrum.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2024 22:24:25 GMT
There's an Esperanto list in France. Has anyone spotted one elsewhere? France also had a list called Les Nationalists, who apparently have previously described Jean-Marie Le Pen as being controlled by Israel. Which gives you an understanding of their position on the spectrum. I don't think the spectrum actually extends that far does it? |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 3, 2024 7:40:31 GMT
There's an Esperanto list in France. Has anyone spotted one elsewhere? France also had a list called Les Nationalists, who apparently have previously described Jean-Marie Le Pen as being controlled by Israel. Which gives you an understanding of their position on the spectrum. I don't think the spectrum actually extends that far does it? You're right, they're probably off the end of it. |
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Post by therealriga on Jun 3, 2024 14:21:10 GMT
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Post by rcronald on Jun 3, 2024 14:39:22 GMT
I’m kind of surprised by the large differences between Attīstībai and Par… |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jun 6, 2024 8:47:55 GMT
Polling starts today.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 6, 2024 8:54:53 GMT
Gut feeling: low turnout and volatile results. There simply seems to be no enthusiasm in anywhere I've been over the last month. Other than in Belgium, but that's because it's a giant set of elections going on at once. |
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