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Post by Merseymike on Apr 7, 2014 21:55:24 GMT
Its odd that it should happen here, as the local MP is probably the member closest to UKIP in terms of policy in the House of Commons
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Post by thirdchill on Apr 8, 2014 10:30:29 GMT
Its odd that it should happen here, as the local MP is probably the member closest to UKIP in terms of policy in the House of Commons Often these things are more about personal squabbles than political ideology. Plus there may be right-wing Eurosceptic Tories who like Rosindell and his politics, but doubt his ability to do anything to implement them within the Tory Party. Or deselections even...... The amount of councillors defecting in london after they've been selected is too high to be purely about disagreements with the party (though they will all say that it is). However deselected candidates who have a high personal vote can do a great deal of damage to the incumbent party if they defect and stand under their new party colour. In Harington (Sefton), Alf Doran did just that when standing under a UKIP banner.
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Post by Merseymike on Apr 8, 2014 11:45:47 GMT
Often these things are more about personal squabbles than political ideology. Plus there may be right-wing Eurosceptic Tories who like Rosindell and his politics, but doubt his ability to do anything to implement them within the Tory Party. Or deselections even...... The amount of councillors defecting in london after they've been selected is too high to be purely about disagreements with the party (though they will all say that it is). However deselected candidates who have a high personal vote can do a great deal of damage to the incumbent party if they defect and stand under their new party colour. In Harington (Sefton), Alf Doran did just that when standing under a UKIP banner. True. Alf left the Conservatives, though - he wasn't deselected, just exasperated with their local incompetence!
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Post by Merseymike on Apr 8, 2014 11:46:34 GMT
In Harington (Sefton), Alf Doran did just that when standing under a UKIP banner. That is a perfect example - a super-safe and very wealthy Tory ward being won by Labour with 30% of the vote. Home to a few footballers - not all of who are Tory!
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Post by Devonian on Apr 14, 2014 14:34:31 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Apr 26, 2014 8:30:21 GMT
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 1, 2014 13:34:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2014 13:49:01 GMT
Wow, that must be even better than a 'senior' Tory sent while on the move somewhere
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Post by thorny90 on May 28, 2014 21:55:58 GMT
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Post by neilm on May 28, 2014 23:11:50 GMT
Can independents really defect?
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Post by thorny90 on May 29, 2014 0:27:21 GMT
Defected from being an independent to being a member of a party?
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on May 29, 2014 19:43:46 GMT
Wow, that must be even better than a 'senior' Tory sent while on the move somewhere Or a "big beast"- or better still, a "grandee"!
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Post by Devonian on Jun 26, 2014 12:04:38 GMT
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 26, 2014 15:13:21 GMT
If they really are his views - whatever was he doing in the Labour party in the first place?
I think its fine to say 'I have changed my mind and my political views are not as they used to be', but trying to pretend that Labour ever represented what he now claims to believe is just stupidity
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Post by Tony Otim on Jun 26, 2014 15:17:18 GMT
I'm not sure that counts as much of a glittering CV. Maybe Labour will be glad to let UKIP have them.
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Post by Devonian on Aug 28, 2014 15:48:59 GMT
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Post by swindonlad on Aug 29, 2014 6:50:14 GMT
Having seen the list of 8 others, there are a number who, I suspect, who wouldn't be missed at all by the Parliamentary party :-)
Any guesses for the next one to defect, if this is true. My guesses:
On political grounds, Hannon
On ego / personal promotion in the press, Dorries
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 7:53:37 GMT
Hannan has already said he won't be following Carswell.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 29, 2014 8:01:00 GMT
Having seen the list of 8 others, there are a number who, I suspect, who wouldn't be missed at all by the Parliamentary party :-) Where is this list?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 8:19:03 GMT
Having seen the list of 8 others, there are a number who, I suspect, who wouldn't be missed at all by the Parliamentary party :-) Any guesses for the next one to defect, if this is true. My guesses: On political grounds, Hannon On ego / personal promotion in the press, DorriesPlease please please let this be true, and let her take Bone and his unfunny jokes about his wife with her.
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