wysall
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Post by wysall on Mar 4, 2024 12:45:16 GMT
'Yes, Galloway won Rochdale. But it’s the runner up who really tells us about politics in the town', article from the Manchester Mill. manchestermill.co.uk/p/yes-galloway-won-rochdale-but-itsSome of the article is behind a paywall. You can 'Keep reading with a 7-day free trial', which I haven't done. Posting a link without reading all the article might not be a good idea, but you might still be interested in the free-to-read part of the article. From the free-to-read part, it seems to be a collection of useless (and demonstrably wrong) vox-pops, to say nothing of Rob Ford. |
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Post by iang on Mar 4, 2024 13:29:07 GMT
Any Lib Dems give any reason why the Lib Dems didn't put much effort in? The Tories seemed to think that they didn't have a chance with the lack of history of winning and the massive national poll drag, but these didn't apply to Lib Dems. No, not really, and I think we should have done. When the Labour "incident" happened, an email came round saying "all to play for" and had in effect been sat upon within about 2 hours by another email saying "stick to the plan". I guess, as one or two people have said, it was relatively late to get the famous by-election machine cranked up and running - but I am disappointed that we didn't even seem to try, even given the entirely valid points other posters have made |
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Post by right on Mar 4, 2024 14:15:27 GMT
Any Lib Dems give any reason why the Lib Dems didn't put much effort in? The Tories seemed to think that they didn't have a chance with the lack of history of winning and the massive national poll drag, but these didn't apply to Lib Dems. No, not really, and I think we should have done. When the Labour "incident" happened, an email came round saying "all to play for" and had in effect been sat upon within about 2 hours by another email saying "stick to the plan". I guess, as one or two people have said, it was relatively late to get the famous by-election machine cranked up and running - but I am disappointed that we didn't even seem to try, even given the entirely valid points other posters have made Well I suppose the Lib Dems haven't had any blow back on doing so badly, but if they had worked like stink and doubled their vote it would have probably been noticed that they tried and failed if they were still not in second place. |
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Mar 4, 2024 15:48:41 GMT
Galloway has just been introduced by Peter Bottomley and Alba’s Neale Hanvey.
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Post by uthacalthing on Mar 4, 2024 17:22:26 GMT
No, Jews Hindus & Sikhs do not vote as a bloc. You personally are evidence that Jews vote as a block and if the Tory party went as tonto as Labour did under Corbyn, then Malcom Rifkind would provide further evidence. And if Jenny Tonge had become leader of the Lib Dems, SD would have completed the set. |
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Post by jefferson on Mar 4, 2024 17:25:16 GMT
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Post by uthacalthing on Mar 4, 2024 18:16:18 GMT
There is something comical about the locally dominant party, in this case, Labour, running around signing their core vote up for Postal votes, then the feckless electorate deserting them en masse.
I do hope this happens to all other parties as well.
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Post by kevinf on Mar 4, 2024 18:25:32 GMT
Galloway has just been introduced by Peter Bottomley and Alba’s Neale Hanvey. Which is odd bearing in mind Galloway and Hanley’s opposing views on Scottish Independence. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Mar 4, 2024 18:33:35 GMT
Well that answers a longrunning question - the hat isn't surgically attached after all. |
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Post by uthacalthing on Mar 4, 2024 18:54:55 GMT
I have read him claim that the hat is essential to hide scars incurred by a Zionist attacker. Wiki asserts that he sustained damage to his ribs and face. George is economical with the verite
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Post by minionofmidas on Mar 4, 2024 19:02:03 GMT
I have read him claim that the hat is essential to hide scars incurred by a Zionist attacker. Wiki asserts that he sustained damage to his ribs and face. George is economical with the verite his hair fell out over that incident |
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batman
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Post by batman on Mar 4, 2024 19:48:24 GMT
No, Jews Hindus & Sikhs do not vote as a bloc. You personally are evidence that Jews vote as a block and if the Tory party went as tonto as Labour did under Corbyn, then Malcom Rifkind would provide further evidence. And if Jenny Tonge had become leader of the Lib Dems, SD would have completed the set. how on earth am I evidence of that? I know that I vote differently from the majority of Jewish voters, at least far more often than not. |
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Post by johnloony on Mar 4, 2024 20:26:26 GMT
I'm loving the juxtaposition of the title and thumbnail on this article. If anyone would stand in the House and stay that it would be GG  Well that answers a longrunning question - the hat isn't surgically attached after all. And another question: he swore on the Bible, not the Qur’an - so either he hasn’t converted to Islam, or doesn’t want people to think he has |
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Post by uthacalthing on Mar 4, 2024 20:32:30 GMT
You personally are evidence that Jews vote as a block and if the Tory party went as tonto as Labour did under Corbyn, then Malcom Rifkind would provide further evidence. And if Jenny Tonge had become leader of the Lib Dems, SD would have completed the set. how on earth am I evidence of that? I know that I vote differently from the majority of Jewish voters, at least far more often than not. Because you are dyed in the wool Labour and you abandoned Labour on gounds of antisemitism You are the flipside of the coin to every Muslim that voted for Galloway in Rochdale. Another goatherder who when forced to choose between his theism and his intellectual appraisal chose his Race and his God And BTW I support your choice. |
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Post by johnloony on Mar 4, 2024 20:49:49 GMT
I'm loving the juxtaposition of the title and thumbnail on this article. If anyone would stand in the House and say that, it would be GG Incidentally, why did he single out Angela Rayner? Ostensibly GG would want WPB candidates to oust dozens of Labour MPs. Is there a particular reason for mentioning her? |
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Post by johnloony on Mar 4, 2024 20:52:47 GMT
No, Jews Hindus & Sikhs do not vote as a bloc. You personally are evidence that Jews vote as a block … ? ? ? I know you’re a bit of a wind-up merchant, but that’s a bit far even for you |
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Post by jefferson on Mar 4, 2024 20:54:21 GMT
I'm loving the juxtaposition of the title and thumbnail on this article. If anyone would stand in the House and say that, it would be GG Incidentally, why did he single out Angela Rayner? Ostensibly GG would want WPB candidates to oust dozens of Labour MPs. Is there a particular reason for mentioning her? I understand (from the BBC reporting only) that he was listing a number of places with a high muslim population where he felt his party has a good chance/at the very least could stop Labour winning... Unfortunately the exact wording doesn't seem to have been repeated anywhere, but I would think the Press or GG specifically picked on Rayner by name because she was the most high profile/senior MP in those seats? Source: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68467359 |
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Post by uthacalthing on Mar 4, 2024 21:10:10 GMT
I'm loving the juxtaposition of the title and thumbnail on this article. If anyone would stand in the House and say that, it would be GG Incidentally, why did he single out Angela Rayner? Ostensibly GG would want WPB candidates to oust dozens of Labour MPs. Is there a particular reason for mentioning her? She is the deputy leader of the Labour Party and a hot babe, her defenestration would be newsworthy and assertions that it may happen are therefore newsworthy albeit less so. There is an element of what is wrongly referred to as mysoginy in his targetting of her |
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Post by jefferson on Mar 4, 2024 21:13:14 GMT
Incidentally, why did he single out Angela Rayner? Ostensibly GG would want WPB candidates to oust dozens of Labour MPs. Is there a particular reason for mentioning her? ...and a hot babe... Yet another example of where we must fundamentally disagree |
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Post by uthacalthing on Mar 4, 2024 21:25:04 GMT
You are if I understand, of the female persuasion
Angela Rayner sits mid-range on any objective scale of feminine beauty, solidly mid-quintile, but she oozes self-confidence and dresses in a manner that suggests that she is of the view that she is a bit of a looker. Mysogisnts may be attracted to downtrodden women who accept their status, men who love and respect women are attracted to women who believe in themselves.
I sit in the latter category.
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