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Post by graham on Jan 6, 2024 21:08:56 GMT
they may believe that, but it's a bollocks belief. It's logical. As my profile says Wellingborough is a very working class constituency, with a longstanding preference for the Conservatives, and a high Brexit vote. It's pretty much an ideal target for Reform. Of course they have no chance of winning, but they should comfortably save their deposit, and get some useful publicity and momentum for the following General Election. The seat has also voted Labour 8 times since World War 2. |
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Post by uthacalthing on Jan 7, 2024 1:06:55 GMT
And ideally to be able to really upset the Conservatives
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Post by minionofmidas on Jan 7, 2024 1:50:49 GMT
As has been mentioned already, it is common in the US for special elections to happen under new boundaries, thereby leading to some people being double-represented and others without representation for a period of time. For example en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Nebraska%27s_1st_congressional_district_special_election. I fail to see how the question is a stupid one- it is quite feasible that someone asking may have been familiar with the U.S. practice. The UK is not the US and anyone suggesting that it is should be convicted of Amazing Stupidity and Ignorance. Look outta your window, watch the skies - it's the 51st state of America. While the United States of America are London's 57th postal district, but that's a highly obscure reference. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 7, 2024 9:53:57 GMT
There must be something we're not being told. They're bound to keep their deposit. I'm getting Haltemprice and Howden vibes. Not convinced they would hold their deposit in Kingswood at all, this may be a factor in the decision. And what does your final statement mean?  |
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Post by london(ex)tory on Jan 7, 2024 12:36:42 GMT
There must be something we're not being told. They're bound to keep their deposit. I'm getting Haltemprice and Howden vibes. Not convinced they would hold their deposit in Kingswood at all, this may be a factor in the decision. And what does your final statement mean? Personally I interpret "Haltemprice & Howden vibes" as meaning the by-election is a totally unnecessary waste of taxpayers' money to hold it, and the only thing that would be achieved by standing would be to vindicate the attention-seeking twattery of the self righteous pillock who caused it. On that basis I fully support the decision to sit this one out. What other parties do is up to them. |
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Jan 7, 2024 13:38:36 GMT
I lean towards Reform as a voter, but they do seem a bit flakey as a party at times, makes me think they will fizzle out in the next 10 years rather than exploit the ineptitude of the other parties.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jan 7, 2024 14:07:00 GMT
Not convinced they would hold their deposit in Kingswood at all, this may be a factor in the decision. And what does your final statement mean? Personally I interpret "Haltemprice & Howden vibes" as meaning the by-election is a totally unnecessary waste of taxpayers' money to hold it, and the only thing that would be achieved by standing would be to vindicate the attention-seeking twattery of the self righteous pillock who caused it. On that basis I fully support the decision to sit this one out. What other parties do is up to them. There must be something we're not being told. They're bound to keep their deposit. I'm getting Haltemprice and Howden vibes. Not convinced they would hold their deposit in Kingswood at all, this may be a factor in the decision. And what does your final statement mean? Partially. It is a rare conviction by-election (let's not call Nadine principled). But also this "we're not standing" thing is an echo of the opposition parties making a play of not standing against David Davis. |
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Post by london(ex)tory on Jan 7, 2024 16:14:31 GMT
Personally I interpret "Haltemprice & Howden vibes" as meaning the by-election is a totally unnecessary waste of taxpayers' money to hold it, and the only thing that would be achieved by standing would be to vindicate the attention-seeking twattery of the self righteous pillock who caused it. On that basis I fully support the decision to sit this one out. What other parties do is up to them. Not convinced they would hold their deposit in Kingswood at all, this may be a factor in the decision. And what does your final statement mean? Partially. It is a rare conviction by-election (let's not call Nadine principled). But also this "we're not standing" thing is an echo of the opposition parties making a play of not standing against David Davis. Skidmore has no conviction / principle other than enriching himself on the back of an ideology that will impoverish us all. He is already a paid shill for the eco industry, this just paves the way for him doing even more of that. |
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Post by uthacalthing on Jan 7, 2024 16:26:28 GMT
Reform dont stand for anything. They stand against a great many things.
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Post by batman on Jan 7, 2024 16:26:40 GMT
Goodness what a load of bollocks that last but one post was.
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Post by maxque on Jan 7, 2024 16:29:42 GMT
Ah, someone has been fed with the party lines.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jan 7, 2024 16:56:47 GMT
Partially. It is a rare conviction by-election (let's not call Nadine principled). But also this "we're not standing" thing is an echo of the opposition parties making a play of not standing against David Davis. Skidmore has no conviction / principle other than enriching himself on the back of an ideology that will impoverish us all. He is already a paid shill for the eco industry, this just paves the way for him doing even more of that. The planet is warmer than it's ever been. It's about time someone did something about the fact we're facing a climate catastrophe. |
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Post by maxque on Jan 7, 2024 17:05:44 GMT
Partially. It is a rare conviction by-election (let's not call Nadine principled). But also this "we're not standing" thing is an echo of the opposition parties making a play of not standing against David Davis. Skidmore has no conviction / principle other than enriching himself on the back of an ideology that will impoverish us all.He is already a paid shill for the eco industry, this just paves the way for him doing even more of that. Ironic from a Brexit supporter. |
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Jan 7, 2024 17:27:09 GMT
Skidmore has no conviction / principle other than enriching himself on the back of an ideology that will impoverish us all. He is already a paid shill for the eco industry, this just paves the way for him doing even more of that. The planet is warmer than it's ever been. It's about time someone did something about the fact we're facing a climate catastrophe.
None of that statement is true.
The planet is currently warming yes, but warmer than it's ever been, no, it's been much warmer in the past.
We are not facing a climate catastrophe, not for the climate of earth anyway. We are however in a period of time, when climate change may be problematical for some animals survival, but they are nearly as likely to overun by human urban sprawl which people don't seem to care so much about. Animal evolution will adapt anyway, whatever happens to individual species, it always does.
Does that mean we should stop polluting out atmosphere, well it does seem sensible. Does that mean the UK has to do it when major polluters don't, for me thats a no.
The Earth will survive, and eventually humans won't, that's evolution.
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Post by jamie on Jan 7, 2024 17:32:14 GMT
You would think they'd relish the chance to give voters an option to "reject" these green ideas at the ballot box. It's not as if Kingswood is Bristol West - the Green Party have never held their deposit there so it's hardly some environmentalist stronghold, and areas like Soundwell look like reasonable Reform territory on paper. So I think it's a slightly odd decision unless there's more to this than meets the eye. Exactly. UKIP did 2% better in Kingswood than nationally, so if you believe the current polls then Reform should be getting into the double digits here. FWIW, i expect this will help the Conservatives more than a little, albeit by no means all of the Reform vote will return to the Conservatives. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Jan 7, 2024 18:55:21 GMT
The planet is warmer than it's ever been. It's about time someone did something about the fact we're facing a climate catastrophe.
None of that statement is true.
The planet is currently warming yes, but warmer than it's ever been, no, it's been much warmer in the past. not since before homo sapiens first left Africa, though. |
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Jan 7, 2024 20:21:10 GMT
None of that statement is true.
The planet is currently warming yes, but warmer than it's ever been, no, it's been much warmer in the past. not since before homo sapiens first left Africa, though.
dok didn't qualify the statement at all, so since when is irrelevant.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jan 7, 2024 21:06:12 GMT
not since before homo sapiens first left Africa, though. dok didn't qualify the statement at all, so since when is irrelevant.
Reading University is having to find a new colour to represent the global rise in temperatures because currently Earth has been its scale. I think that tells us that current records being broken time after time is a problem worth worrying over Here's their climate stripe map covering nearly 300 years  |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jan 7, 2024 21:26:39 GMT
dok didn't qualify the statement at all, so since when is irrelevant.
Reading University is having to find a new colour to represent the global rise in temperatures because currently Earth has been its scale. I think that tells us that current records being broken time after time is a problem worth worrying over Here's their climate stripe map covering nearly 300 years So, ignoring the Roman Warm Period, when grapes were grown in England, ignores the Dinosaur Warm Period, when dinosaurs waded in tropic swamps in the British Isles and all that loverly coal was laid down by tropical forests. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 7, 2024 23:45:35 GMT
Reading University is having to find a new colour to represent the global rise in temperatures because currently Earth has been its scale. I think that tells us that current records being broken time after time is a problem worth worrying over Here's their climate stripe map covering nearly 300 years So, ignoring the Roman Warm Period, when grapes were grown in England, ignores the Dinosaur Warm Period, when dinosaurs waded in tropic swamps in the British Isles and all that loverly coal was laid down by tropical forests. Apart from their warm period what have the Romans ever done for us? |
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