carlton43
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 5, 2024 22:06:14 GMT
Well, good luck to Mr Skidmore in his soon to be new role as a too well paid green lobbyist. No. I wish him bad luck and a string of difficulties and then an utter car crash resulting in disgrace and imprisonment .... And that is for 'Starters'! |
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Post by johnloony on Jan 5, 2024 22:47:19 GMT
Is the by election taking place under the new or old boundaries? I am completely at a loss to understand how it is even remotely possible for anybody on a forum like this to be stupid enough to ask such a spectacularly stupid question. |
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Post by nyx on Jan 5, 2024 23:16:34 GMT
Is the by election taking place under the new or old boundaries? I am completely at a loss to understand how it is even remotely possible for anybody on a forum like this to be stupid enough to ask such a spectacularly stupid question. As has been mentioned already, it is common in the US for special elections to happen under new boundaries, thereby leading to some people being double-represented and others without representation for a period of time. For example en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Nebraska%27s_1st_congressional_district_special_election. I fail to see how the question is a stupid one- it is quite feasible that someone asking may have been familiar with the U.S. practice. |
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Post by maxque on Jan 5, 2024 23:21:57 GMT
Well, good luck to Mr Skidmore in his soon to be new role as a too well paid green lobbyist. No. I wish him bad luck and a string of difficulties and then an utter car crash resulting in disgrace and imprisonment .... And that is for 'Starters'! Ah, envy and jealousy... |
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 5, 2024 23:26:27 GMT
No. I wish him bad luck and a string of difficulties and then an utter car crash resulting in disgrace and imprisonment .... And that is for 'Starters'! Ah, envy and jealousy... Not at all. Nothing to envy and I don't do envy and jealousy and I never have. I have never needed to, unlike like most people!! I just strongly strongly dislike the bugger and his type. Simple as that. |
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 5, 2024 23:31:58 GMT
Just put the South Gloucestershire 2023 results up on LEAP: www.andrewteale.me.uk/1hh4  If we add up the 2023 local election votes for the wards wholly within the Kingswood seat plus Emersons Green, we get: C 7990 (38.2%) - 9 councillors Lab 7338 (35.1%) - 9 councillors LD 2932 (14.0%) Grn 2048 (9.8%) Ind 626 (3.0%) The vote shares for the Kingswood constituency as a whole will be closer than that because this calculation doesn't include 35% of Staple Hill and Mangotsfield, which is the strongest Labour ward in South Gloucestershire. Also note that Labour didn't stand in Longwell Green last year. |
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Post by batman on Jan 5, 2024 23:34:30 GMT
The BBC news are saying he “has” resigned, rather than announcing his intention to do so.
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Post by uthacalthing on Jan 5, 2024 23:36:57 GMT
Who do you trust, Nadine Dorries or Gerry Adams?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 6, 2024 0:34:46 GMT
It is interesting coincidental timing, I think, but this morning the Hansard Society's Parliament Matters podcast noted that Conservative MPs who knew or believed they would not be re-elected at the general election may resign their seats early (once they had an idea of their post-Parliamentary careeer). Chris Skidmore has found his seat calved up by the Boundary Commission and he has no chance of standing in a successor Conservative seat; he announced his retirement in November 2022 and in November 2023 he said in Parliament "Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for calling me in what is my last Gracious Speech debate. My constituency of Kingswood is being formally abolished in the boundary changes and there is nowhere for me to go, but I have had a great time participating in these debates over the past 13 and a half years." Although he has a black mark in my book because of his letter from historians urging a No vote in the AV referendum in 2011, which was a pile of ahistorical cack. |
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Post by john07 on Jan 6, 2024 0:34:57 GMT
I am completely at a loss to understand how it is even remotely possible for anybody on a forum like this to be stupid enough to ask such a spectacularly stupid question. As has been mentioned already, it is common in the US for special elections to happen under new boundaries, thereby leading to some people being double-represented and others without representation for a period of time. For example en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Nebraska%27s_1st_congressional_district_special_election. I fail to see how the question is a stupid one- it is quite feasible that someone asking may have been familiar with the U.S. practice. The UK is not the US and anyone suggesting that it is should be convicted of Amazing Stupidity and Ignorance. |
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Post by iain on Jan 6, 2024 0:38:35 GMT
I am completely at a loss to understand how it is even remotely possible for anybody on a forum like this to be stupid enough to ask such a spectacularly stupid question. As has been mentioned already, it is common in the US for special elections to happen under new boundaries, thereby leading to some people being double-represented and others without representation for a period of time. For example en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Nebraska%27s_1st_congressional_district_special_election. I fail to see how the question is a stupid one- it is quite feasible that someone asking may have been familiar with the U.S. practice. It isn’t “common” - that was an idiotic error by officials in Nebraska. |
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Post by Wisconsin on Jan 6, 2024 1:07:47 GMT
The BBC news are saying he “has” resigned, rather than announcing his intention to do so. He hasn’t resigned, and if he intends to, he’ll have to get an Act of Parliament passed. Otherwise, we are all waiting for Jeremy Hunt to act. |
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Post by johnloony on Jan 6, 2024 1:51:33 GMT
Although he has a black mark in my book because of his letter from historians urging a No vote in the AV referendum in 2011, which was a pile of ahistorical cack. Omg what a load of illogical … er, as you say, cack. Whatever cack is, I don’t know, but anyway. As you say, it is ahistorical (and logically and factually nonsensical) but even worse than that - paragraph 5 says that it means permanent coalitions (as if they mean PR) and then paragraph 7 says it’s less proportional than FPTP. |
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Post by batman on Jan 6, 2024 2:21:06 GMT
The BBC news are saying he “has” resigned, rather than announcing his intention to do so. He hasn’t resigned, and if he intends to, he’ll have to get an Act of Parliament passed. Otherwise, we are all awaitingJeremy Hunt to act. yes, the BBC has corrected it in subsequent bulletins |
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 6, 2024 2:37:03 GMT
If he wants it, I would suggest that the sensible thing would be to select Dan Norris, as he is very well known and, if elected, he would then be the sitting MP for a massive chunk of the new North East Somerset and Hanham constituency, thus making Jacob Rees-Mogg's position even more dicey. There is nothing to stop a sensible Labour NEC waiving the rule on executive Mayors sitting in the HoC for what would be a short time.
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Post by philvn on Jan 6, 2024 4:32:21 GMT
Is the by election taking place under the new or old boundaries? I am completely at a loss to understand how it is even remotely possible for anybody on a forum like this to be stupid enough to ask such a spectacularly stupid question. Although most of us would know the answer to this, is this really the best way to respond? I'm so glad that I only post very occasionally here! |
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Post by cogload on Jan 6, 2024 13:04:48 GMT
Not hanging around.
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Post by johnloony on Jan 6, 2024 13:27:08 GMT
I am completely at a loss to understand how it is even remotely possible for anybody on a forum like this to be stupid enough to ask such a spectacularly stupid question. Although most of us would know the answer to this, is this really the best way to respond? Yes, because a bicycle doesn’t have windows. |
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Post by YL on Jan 6, 2024 13:35:48 GMT
If he wants it, I would suggest that the sensible thing would be to select Dan Norris, as he is very well known and, if elected, he would then be the sitting MP for a massive chunk of the new North East Somerset and Hanham constituency, thus making Jacob Rees-Mogg's position even more dicey. There is nothing to stop a sensible Labour NEC waiving the rule on executive Mayors sitting in the HoC for what would be a short time. What was the Labour policy when Dan Jarvis was Mayor of South Yorkshire; did they have a rule and waive it then? I thought the (general, not Labour specific) rule was that Mayors who also have the PCC powers couldn't be MPs, which is why Andy Burnham can't be an MP and why Tracy Brabin had to resign from Batley & Spen, but the West of England Mayor doesn't have PCC powers (and can't, as the police area is different). |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 6, 2024 14:04:30 GMT
If he wants it, I would suggest that the sensible thing would be to select Dan Norris, as he is very well known and, if elected, he would then be the sitting MP for a massive chunk of the new North East Somerset and Hanham constituency, thus making Jacob Rees-Mogg's position even more dicey. There is nothing to stop a sensible Labour NEC waiving the rule on executive Mayors sitting in the HoC for what would be a short time. What was the Labour policy when Dan Jarvis was Mayor of South Yorkshire; did they have a rule and waive it then? I thought the (general, not Labour specific) rule was that Mayors who also have the PCC powers couldn't be MPs, which is why Andy Burnham can't be an MP and why Tracy Brabin had to resign from Batley & Spen, but the West of England Mayor doesn't have PCC powers (and can't, as the police area is different). Dan Jarvis was allowed as an exception because the Mayor post had been created but the devolution deal had not been agreed, and the Mayor did not have a salary. |
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