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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jan 18, 2024 12:14:07 GMT
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 18, 2024 13:45:07 GMT
"Untrustable" - what a lovely word, which I don't think is technically correct but so much more descriptive than 'untrustworthy'. According to the OED, yes it is  |
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 18, 2024 14:20:38 GMT
"Untrustable" - what a lovely word, which I don't think is technically correct but so much more descriptive than 'untrustworthy'. According to the OED, yes it is Aye, but only from Charles Kingsley, who was not called a controversialist for nothing. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jan 18, 2024 16:12:24 GMT
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 18, 2024 16:52:55 GMT
The rarity sort of makes my point. It was unrecorded before the 1860s and rare since. Great word, mind. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 18, 2024 16:56:40 GMT
Blimey, Eden Philpots. Now there's someone you don't expect to see cited these days. |
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Post by greenhert on Jan 18, 2024 16:59:26 GMT
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Post by ricmk on Jan 18, 2024 17:14:59 GMT
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jan 18, 2024 17:17:22 GMT
Blimey, Eden Philpots. Now there's someone you don't expect to see cited these days. *reads Wikipedia article* Oh. |
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Post by nyx on Jan 18, 2024 20:09:15 GMT
Wonder how heavily the Greens will campaign here. Lots of activists from Bristol available, I expect. |
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Post by samdwebber on Jan 18, 2024 23:20:36 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 18, 2024 23:25:33 GMT
Oh what rubbish. It's perfectly usual for people to talk differently when they are in different communities. That doesn't just include vocabulary, but also accent. It's not just non-white people who engage in code-switching. This is a total non-story.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 18, 2024 23:44:37 GMT
I have lived across the north of England and, whilst clearly Manc, I will use local ways of speaking after living there for a while. The Daily Mail are pathetic. |
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jan 18, 2024 23:45:24 GMT
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 18, 2024 23:50:24 GMT
Oh what rubbish. It's perfectly usual for people to talk differently when they are in different communities. That doesn't just include vocabulary, but also accent. It's not just non-white people who engage in code-switching. This is a total non-story. I am rather surprised to see you post that. I would always be very wary of someone who changed flags for different audiences as to me it smacks of insincerity, being inauthentic and having insecurity of character. One should surely always look and sound exactly the same in an anglophone situation? In my various circles I have encountered very few people who did and never trusted any of them. If you are so determined to fit in and to please there is something wrong somewhere. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jan 19, 2024 2:45:23 GMT
My partner's accent moves from his natural Co. Down to his adoptive Wirral/Scouse as and when, often unconsciously, with such phrases as "meal deal" bringing out the Scouse, and "filmed now" coming out full Norn Iron.
This candidate doesn't have a wandering accent, it's just what happens to people, quite naturally. Maybe he's more susceptible to picking up accents, it's what some people are very good at doing?
The Daily Mail is a rag at the best and worst of times. This is an attempted "gotcha". It hasn't achieved anything.
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Post by nyx on Jan 19, 2024 5:02:38 GMT
This candidate doesn't have a wandering accent, it's just what happens to people, quite naturally. Maybe he's more susceptible to picking up accents, it's what some people are very good at doing? I have a friend who does that subconsciously- his natural accent is from the south of England, but if for example he visits Ireland he'll automatically start speaking in an Irish accent without thinking about it, and he's never even lived in Ireland. Sometimes people think he's taking the piss but he actually can't help doing it automatically. |
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Post by iainbhx on Jan 19, 2024 6:22:37 GMT
I code-switch between West Midlands English and Black Country depending on who I'm with (and where I am) and pretty much without knowing I'm doing it. I can do Brummagem after 24 years of living here, but it takes a bit of effort, so I don't really bother, but Brummagem is more of an accent, Black Country is a dialect, probably a more of a sociolect these days.
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Post by batman on Jan 19, 2024 7:21:11 GMT
Oh what rubbish. It's perfectly usual for people to talk differently when they are in different communities. That doesn't just include vocabulary, but also accent. It's not just non-white people who engage in code-switching. This is a total non-story. I have always had family in Manchester. They speak with strong Manchester accents (though my dad didn’t). If I stayed there a few days my accent definitely took on Manchester tones, and it certainly wasn’t deliberate. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Jan 19, 2024 10:19:32 GMT
Interesting that both the Lib Dems and Greens have gone with Bristol candidates, when one of the reasons that Egan got selected for Bristol NE was that he definitely wasn't the Bristol candidate.
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