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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 4, 2024 15:51:45 GMT
Why "countries" in inverted commas, Dok? With regards to the US, I'm less convinced than ever that it's functioning as a proper, organised, country. You have such division amongst and within individual states, courts packed with Trump appointees willing to do the bidding of a political ideal, Texas resembling Margaret Atwood's Gilead, constant legal challenges to everything. I know States can't leave the Union so the only thing left is increasing crumbling of the fabric of society and if Dictator For A Day is returned, that's the country destroyed.. Countries do pass through these phases and normally come out the other side. What you describe there could be gently changed and would describe the most positive outcome of the forthcoming Belgian election. Actually, turn it down a notch and it isn't far off a description of Germany's predicament right now. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jan 4, 2024 16:53:56 GMT
Why "countries" in inverted commas, Dok? With regards to the US, I'm less convinced than ever that it's functioning as a proper, organised, country. You have such division amongst and within individual states, courts packed with Trump appointees willing to do the bidding of a political ideal, Texas resembling Margaret Atwood's Gilead, constant legal challenges to everything. I know States can't leave the Union so the only thing left is increasing crumbling of the fabric of society and if Dictator For A Day is returned, that's the country destroyed.. The whole point of the creation the country as a federation was explicitly to deal with these sorts of divisions. Multiple diverse opposing opinions can hold because the "country" is formed from a collection of multiple diverse differing components. But the last century has seen the progressive destruction of the functionality of federation as everybody appears to loathe not being able to control their neighbours' lives and wants to destroy it and have a centralised monolithic single state. Everybody needs to be given a good slap and told YOU'RE A FEDERATION. IF YOU DON'T LIKE (OTHER STATE)'S POLICIES, **** OFF, IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jan 4, 2024 17:49:13 GMT
With regards to the US, I'm less convinced than ever that it's functioning as a proper, organised, country. You have such division amongst and within individual states, courts packed with Trump appointees willing to do the bidding of a political ideal, Texas resembling Margaret Atwood's Gilead, constant legal challenges to everything. I know States can't leave the Union so the only thing left is increasing crumbling of the fabric of society and if Dictator For A Day is returned, that's the country destroyed.. The whole point of the creation the country as a federation was explicitly to deal with these sorts of divisions. Multiple diverse opposing opinions can hold because the "country" is formed from a collection of multiple diverse differing components. But the last century has seen the progressive destruction of the functionality of federation as everybody appears to loathe not being able to control their neighbours' lives and wants to destroy it and have a centralised monolithic single state. Everybody needs to be given a good slap and told YOU'RE A FEDERATION. IF YOU DON'T LIKE (OTHER STATE)'S POLICIES, **** OFF, IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Fair points! |
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Post by dundas on Jan 6, 2024 21:22:31 GMT
Why "countries" in inverted commas, Dok? Texas resembling Margaret Attwood's Gilead balderdash |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Jan 6, 2024 23:56:48 GMT
Texas resembling Margaret Attwood's Gilead balderdash For the women of Texas, arrested and jailed for risking an abortion, arrested for attempting to cross State lines to access safe abortion care, and forced to carry to term non-viable foetuses, Texas is Gilead. |
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Post by dundas on Jan 7, 2024 12:03:00 GMT
For the women of Texas, arrested and jailed for risking an abortion, arrested for attempting to cross State lines to access safe abortion care, and forced to carry to term non-viable foetuses, Texas is Gilead. Doesn't the Texas heartbeat act in fact specifically bar state or government officials from doing the very thing you accuse them of, leaving it in the hands of private prosecutors instead. |
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Jan 16, 2024 23:04:56 GMT
There are two weeks remaining for the three Independent and five minor party would be candidates to submit the signatures required to appear on the ballot, 300,000 for Independents or 100,000 for minor party candidates. Only two of the candidates have provided information on how many signatures they have collected so far.
The Putin campaign claim to have collected over 1.3 million signatures and are currently checking them and preparing lists for submission. Boris Nadezhdin's campaign website updates the figures regularly. At present they report just 14,725 signatures collected. Going by this it looks like the signature requirement is likely to keep most of these time wasters off the ballot.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Jan 29, 2024 12:08:45 GMT
The plucky Independent candidate Vladimir Putin is officially on the ballot. He apparently collected 2.5 million signatures and submitted 315,000 (the maximum allowable). The CEC checked 60,000 signatures and found that only 91 were invalid, well within the 5% tolerance.
Boris Nadezhdin (Civic Initiative) claims he has collected over 200,000 signatures so barring mass screw ups or a CEC stich up he will be on the ballot. Sergey Baburin (Russian All-People's Union) and Sergey Malinkovich (Communists of Russia) both claim to have collected over 100,000 although it isn't clear if this is enough as they can only submit 2,500 from each Federal subject. Andrei Bogdanov (Russian Party of Freedom and Justice) claimed to have collected 90,000 signatures as of a week ago. The other three potential candidates have not provided any information on signatures collected.
An interesting theory in Russia is that Nadezhdin was allowed to get this far precisely so he could gather as many signatures as possible thus giving the authorities a substantial list of those Russians opposed to the war.
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 29, 2024 16:02:20 GMT
The plucky Independent candidate Vladimir Putin is officially on the ballet. He apparently collected 2.5 million signatures and submitted 315,000 (the maximum allowable). The CEC checked 60,000 signatures and found that only 91 were invalid, well within the 5% tolerance. Boris Nadezhdin (Civic Initiative) claims he has collected over 200,000 signatures so barring mass screw ups or a CEC stich up he will be on the ballet. Sergey Baburin (Russian All-People's Union) and Sergey Malinkovich (Communists of Russia) both claim to have collected over 100,000 although it isn't clear if this is enough as they can only submit 2,500 from each Federal subject. Andrei Bogdanov (Russian Party of Freedom and Justice) claimed to have collected 90,000 signatures as of a week ago. The other three potential candidates have not provided any information on signatures collected. An interesting theory in Russia is that Nadezhdin was allowed to get this far precisely so he could gather as many signatures as possible thus giving the authorities a substantial list of those Russians opposed to the war. A veritable write-in to keep the corps en pointe. What will they do for an entrechat? |
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Post by froome on Jan 29, 2024 17:54:14 GMT
The plucky Independent candidate Vladimir Putin is officially on the ballet. He apparently collected 2.5 million signatures and submitted 315,000 (the maximum allowable). The CEC checked 60,000 signatures and found that only 91 were invalid, well within the 5% tolerance. Boris Nadezhdin (Civic Initiative) claims he has collected over 200,000 signatures so barring mass screw ups or a CEC stich up he will be on the ballet. Sergey Baburin (Russian All-People's Union) and Sergey Malinkovich (Communists of Russia) both claim to have collected over 100,000 although it isn't clear if this is enough as they can only submit 2,500 from each Federal subject. Andrei Bogdanov (Russian Party of Freedom and Justice) claimed to have collected 90,000 signatures as of a week ago. The other three potential candidates have not provided any information on signatures collected. An interesting theory in Russia is that Nadezhdin was allowed to get this far precisely so he could gather as many signatures as possible thus giving the authorities a substantial list of those Russians opposed to the war. I know that ballet is very popular in Russia, but why do all the candidates have to attend? Surely it would be better if they were getting onto the ballot form.  |
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Jan 30, 2024 15:13:39 GMT
Although he claims that he had collected enough signatures and prepared them for submission Sergey Baburin (Russian All-People's Union) has withdrawn from the election and endorsed Vladimir Putin (Independent). Irina Sviridova (Democratic Party) has conceded that she has been unable to collect enough signatures and so has also withdrawn. Sergey Malinkovich (Communists of Russia) has submitted signatures to the CEC and they are now being verified.
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Post by manchesterman on Jan 30, 2024 15:16:01 GMT
The plucky Independent candidate Vladimir Putin is officially on the ballet. He apparently collected 2.5 million signatures and submitted 315,000 (the maximum allowable). The CEC checked 60,000 signatures and found that only 91 were invalid, well within the 5% tolerance. Boris Nadezhdin (Civic Initiative) claims he has collected over 200,000 signatures so barring mass screw ups or a CEC stich up he will be on the ballet. Sergey Baburin (Russian All-People's Union) and Sergey Malinkovich (Communists of Russia) both claim to have collected over 100,000 although it isn't clear if this is enough as they can only submit 2,500 from each Federal subject. Andrei Bogdanov (Russian Party of Freedom and Justice) claimed to have collected 90,000 signatures as of a week ago. The other three potential candidates have not provided any information on signatures collected. An interesting theory in Russia is that Nadezhdin was allowed to get this far precisely so he could gather as many signatures as possible thus giving the authorities a substantial list of those Russians opposed to the war. I know that ballet is very popular in Russia, but why do all the candidates have to attend? Surely it would be better if they were getting onto the ballot form.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Jan 31, 2024 11:45:45 GMT
Boris Nadezhdin (Civic Initiative) has today submitted 105,000 nomination signatures to the CEC.
Andrei Bogdanov (Russian Party of Freedom and Justice) also submitted signatures but subsequently withdrew after realising that he would be disqualified due to having a foreign bank account. He claims that he tried to close the account but was prevented in doing so as he could not obtain a visa to travel through the Schengen zone.
Rada Russkikh (Independent) said yesterday that she did not know how many signatures she had collected and all but admitted that her candidature was a publicity stunt. No news about Anatoly Batashev (Independent) but I would guess that he will not have collected significant signatures.
The CEC have until the 10th February to verify the signatures of Nadezhdin and Malinkovich
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Jan 31, 2024 13:25:46 GMT
Batashev apparently turned up at the CEC offices with 6 boxes of signatures but declined to submit them and confirmed that he won't be taking any further part in the election.
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Post by michaelarden on Jan 31, 2024 22:07:47 GMT
And in other news the result has been announced with Putin getting 95.8% of the vote.
Oh wait the embargo is still in place.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Feb 1, 2024 10:40:24 GMT
And in other news the result has been announced with Putin getting 95.8% of the vote. Oh wait the embargo is still in place. Even if such level of rigging was possible, and in Russia it really isn't, Putin and his team are not that stupid. My guess is about 70% for Putin, better than 2012 but worse than 2018. 10-15% Kharitonov, about 5% each for Slutsky and Nadezhdin , a bit lower for Davankov and a negligible vote for Malinkovich. |
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Post by greatkingrat on Feb 1, 2024 11:11:40 GMT
Have Rallings and Thrasher published the notional results yet, to take account of the boundary changes to Russia since the last election?
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Feb 1, 2024 15:36:48 GMT
Have Rallings and Thrasher published the notional results yet, to take account of the boundary changes to Russia since the last election? In 2018 Putin received 92% of the vote in the Republic of Crimea and 90% in the city of Sevastopol. I would expect similar numbers in the areas annexed in 2022. |
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Feb 3, 2024 10:09:56 GMT
The CEC may be be preparing to prevent Nadezhdin from being on the ballot. Yesterday they announced that they had found "deficiencies" in the signatures submitted by both Nadezhdin and Malinkovich. Both have been invited to a meeting on 5th February for the CEC to present their findings. The deputy chairman of the CEC stated the following
Contrary to earlier reports it seems that potential independent candidates Batashev and Russkikh did both submit some signatures although it is not clear how many. The CEC have said that Batashev's submission contains "critical errors" while Russkikh's submission was missing several "key documents". The CEC have said they will make a formal decision about all four potential candidates on 7th February.
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Post by right on Feb 3, 2024 21:10:18 GMT
And in other news the result has been announced with Putin getting 95.8% of the vote. Oh wait the embargo is still in place. Even if such level of rigging was possible, and in Russia it really isn't, Putin and his team are not that stupid. My guess is about 70% for Putin, better than 2012 but worse than 2018. 10-15% Kharitonov, about 5% each for Slutsky and Nadezhdin , a bit lower for Davankov and a negligible vote for Malinkovich. I think he thinks that these will be genuine votes, which is why they should be genocided |
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