Local Council by-elections 11th January 2024

[evergreenadam]

Jan 11, 2024 23:43:06 GMT andrewp said:

Salford Quays

LD 54.8% (+17.4)
Lab 32.6% (-12.6)
Green 12.6% (+3.4)

No Con from before

Changes from May 2023

Wow, wasn’t expecting such a strong swing.

[ricmk]

Jan 11, 2024 23:44:16 GMT manchesterman said:

Wow! Thought it would be closer than that!

It's almost like they haven't heard that Ed Davey was the post office minister 2010-2012 and the root of all evil.  Ignorant commoners!

[cuthbertbede]

Numbers from the Tendring count tweeted by a local councillor from a locked Twitter account:
IND 45
LAB 83
IND 6
IND 181
IND 24
REFORM UK 54
IND 52
UKIP 38
TORY 91
LD 22

I think this is in alphabetical order, so the winning Independent is Bernard Goldman.

[manchesterman]

[timrollpickering]

Jan 11, 2024 23:56:37 GMT ricmk said:

Jan 11, 2024 23:44:16 GMT manchesterman said:

Wow! Thought it would be closer than that!

It's almost like they haven't heard that Ed Davey was the post office minister 2010-2012 and the root of all evil.  Ignorant commoners!

With such a low turnout just how many were postal votes cast beforehand?

[kevinf]

The Tories have easily held the Dorset seat. Which means their candidate will be disallowed and they’ll have no councillor till May.

[phil156]

Jan 12, 2024 1:00:42 GMT kevinf said:

The Tories have easily held the Dorset seat. Which means their candidate will be disallowed and they’ll have no councillor till May.

    What a waste of time surely the voters must have known wonder what the figures are and turnout too 

[peterl]

I've tracked down the numbers

Peter Dickenson Conservative 1,237
Simon Arthur Dewi Clifford Liberal Democrats 833
Stephen Nicholas Labour Party 232

Turnout 30.79%

[batman]

These results are all crazy, albeit in a variety of different ways. The craziness in Tendring was purely down to the sheer number of candidates. The result in Salford is the least crazy but the turnout is crazy in its lowness.

[Pete Whitehead]

And the craziness in the Dorset result is how low the Labour vote is. Is that right?

[iang]

Surprised we held the Salford seat so easily. Is the turn out situation aggravated by it being one of those places where most voters live in flats it is almost impossible to access, so that no one can leaflet them effectively? Seem to remember that being suggested for a previous Salford by election

[phil156]

Jan 12, 2024 1:16:56 GMT peterl said:

I've tracked down the numbers

Peter Dickenson Conservative 1,237
Simon Arthur Dewi Clifford Liberal Democrats 833
Stephen Nicholas Labour Party 232

Turnout 30.79%

  
      Strange that the turnout was almost treble that of Salford and a waste of 1, 237 votes 

[owainsutton]

Jan 12, 2024 6:29:23 GMT iang said:

Surprised we held the Salford seat so easily. Is the turn out situation aggravated by it being one of those places where most voters live in flats it is almost impossible to access, so that no one can leaflet them effectively? Seem to remember that being suggested for a previous Salford by election

That cuts both ways. Labour won't have been able to get out a heap of attack leaflets focussing on the specific circumstances of this by-election?

[peterl]

Jan 12, 2024 6:53:25 GMT phil156 said:

Jan 12, 2024 1:16:56 GMT peterl said:

I've tracked down the numbers

Peter Dickenson Conservative 1,237
Simon Arthur Dewi Clifford Liberal Democrats 833
Stephen Nicholas Labour Party 232

Turnout 30.79%

  
      Strange that the turnout was almost treble that of Salford and a waste of 1, 237 votes 

Tories not winning here, in spite of topping the poll. Turnout could be linked to weather, it's cold this week and colder in Salford than Weymouth. Also a limited choice, no Green or independent standing.

[evergreenadam]

Jan 11, 2024 23:56:37 GMT ricmk said:

Jan 11, 2024 23:44:16 GMT manchesterman said:

Wow! Thought it would be closer than that!

It's almost like they haven't heard that Ed Davey was the post office minister 2010-2012 and the root of all evil.  Ignorant commoners!

The demographics of this ward don’t suggest many Telegraph readers! In fact they are more likely to know a Tory smear when they see one.

[andrewp]

Jan 12, 2024 1:04:43 GMT phil156 said:

Jan 12, 2024 1:00:42 GMT kevinf said:

The Tories have easily held the Dorset seat. Which means their candidate will be disallowed and they’ll have no councillor till May.

    What a waste of time surely the voters must have known wonder what the figures are and turnout too 

Turns out that the circumstances ( ‘ those silly petty bureaucratic rules’ ) probably got him sympathy and actually helped him. 

[andrewp]

Dorset

Con 53.7% (+24.3)
LD 36.2 % (+19)
Lab 10.1% (-9.5)

No Ind and Green from before

[batman]

Jan 12, 2024 6:18:02 GMT Pete Whitehead said:

And the craziness in the Dorset result is how low the Labour vote is. Is that right?

I was thinking more that the voters were told that a vote for the Conservative candidate meant having no councillor and yet they just voted him in (well, not in as such) big-time anyway. Though the vote squeeze on Labour is certainly striking too

[ricmk]

I know it's only 54 votes but that 9% for Reform UK is one of their best performances isn't it? But when they are polling 9-10% nationally, surely they should be getting way above that average in Clacton if it's genuine? The actual evidence for Reform UK taking serious Tory votes in actual elections remains a lot worse than the polls on this.

[Pete Whitehead]

www.dorsetcouncil.gov.uk/news/results-for-littlemoor-and-preston-by-election-announced
The parish result (with more or less the same candidates) indicates that the votes cast in the Littlemoot part of the ward would have been around Con 278 LD 223 Lab 132.
Incredibly low turnout there but also very poor for Labour in what used to be a safe ward for them (and is a shithole)