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Post by John Chanin on Dec 29, 2023 7:40:31 GMT
Erm… the obvious one is surely David Miliband vs Ed Miliband for the Labour leadership isn’t it? Presidential election, Republic of Kiribati, 4th July 2003: Anote Tong (Pillars of Truth Party) 13,556 Harry Tong (Protect the Maneaba Party) 12,457 Banjera Barini (Independent) 2,591 What on earth is a maneaba? And did it get protected notwithstanding the narrow defeat? |
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Post by batman on Dec 29, 2023 7:46:54 GMT
…and famously (in Brighton Labour circles) Stan had a vote in the Kemptown Labour parliamentary selection being fought between Brian and Rod. Rod won very narrowly and as far as I know, Stan never revealed who he voted for. Had the pleasure of driving Stan around knocking up on an Election Day later on, but he still wouldn’t tell me. There was a similar case in Harwich in 1997, where both Steven and Ivan Henderson went for selection for the parliamentary seat. In that particular case, the repercussions led to the former leaving the party. Did it work out more amicably in Kemptown? And can anybody else think of any other examples of siblings contesting the same selection? Brian Fitch certainly remained a long-term Labour councillor. Rod Fitch as a Militant supporter must have long since left the Labour Party or been expelled, not sure which. |
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Post by johnloony on Dec 29, 2023 8:34:50 GMT
Presidential election, Republic of Kiribati, 4th July 2003: Anote Tong (Pillars of Truth Party) 13,556 Harry Tong (Protect the Maneaba Party) 12,457 Banjera Barini (Independent) 2,591 What on earth is a maneaba? And did it get protected notwithstanding the narrow defeat? A maneaba is a meeting house or community centre. The Maneaba is the National Assembly / Parliament building of Kiribati. |
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Post by phil156 on Jan 9, 2024 10:16:30 GMT
They will all count on Thursday evening except Brighton & Hove which be Friday morning
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Post by owainsutton on Jan 9, 2024 18:36:37 GMT
The police inquiry is somewhat harsh; the offence being looked at is presumably that of falsely signing a declaration that he knew no reason why he was disqualified, so his ignorance of the law is a factor (plus the fact that he stood in previous elections). It's been reported to the police, which is the correct avenue for electoral offences. The police open an investigation, which is the correct avenue when a credible report of an offence is received. This doesn't mean a load of squad cars and CID are assigned to the case. As the article says, the police confirmed that "investigative activity will take place after polling day".
In other words, all they've done at this stage is fill out some paperwork and put it into the system.
Then, after polling day, they can conduct interviews under caution. I'm aware of people who have had to go through that (ending up with a "don't-do-it-again" letter as the culmination of the massive police investigation) over reports of something as small as an incomplete imprint on leaflets.
However, if something were to crop up in the interviews from this "I didn't know being paid as a lollipop man was employment" that suggests he or his agent were actually aware of the ineligibility, surely it's right that the law should be enforced with some teeth?
For example, council staff might (under oath) state that they'd specifically highlighted the breadth of this ineligibility clause, in a pre-election briefing attended by the candidate. That would knock the "ignorance of the law" defence for six.
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Post by batman on Jan 10, 2024 14:19:09 GMT
SILVER, Kane makes me think of Sir Nicholas Fairbairn with his ornate silver-topped cane in which he kept neat whisky for "emergencies".
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Post by london(ex)tory on Jan 10, 2024 15:50:13 GMT
Wes Streeting was first elected to Redbridge Council in a 2010 by-election triggered by the election of an ineligible candidate (I vaguely remember him being a teacher) in Chadwell ward where Labour had (perhaps unexpectedly) gained all three seats from the Lib Dems.
In the original election, Wes had stood in the now defunct Roding ward, where at the time Labour were still firmly in third place.
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Post by minionofmidas on Jan 11, 2024 7:17:22 GMT
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jan 11, 2024 8:25:47 GMT
I have now. Quick question for andrewteale - the deceased councillor in Dorset, was he Tony Ferranti (as per the title) or Ferrari (as in the body text)? |
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Post by batman on Jan 11, 2024 10:20:03 GMT
not difficult to check that one Chris. Looking at the 2019 election results on the Dorset council website it is shown that he was Tony Ferrari.
I do remember Basil de Ferranti who was a Tory MEP & remember his son from Cambridge - he had a sort of Roy Jenkins-like speech semi-impediment.
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Post by johnloony on Jan 11, 2024 10:52:15 GMT
What does anybody know about the Democratic Liberation Party? I can’t find a website for it
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 11, 2024 11:32:48 GMT
What does anybody know about the Democratic Liberation Party? I can’t find a website for it What do we know so far, from their Electoral Commission registration? They were registered in December 2022, giving a Post Office Box in Grimsby as an address. The Leader being a Michael FitzGerald; other officers are Treasurer Ann Conway and nominating officer John Sears. They have a Welsh translation of the name. South Portslade is their first election candidature. This is all very mysterious because there is clearly a national level organisation. There is though, this Youtube video from Georgia Mckinley Fitch which does illuminate things: |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jan 11, 2024 12:16:38 GMT
Matchstalk Men and Matchstalk Cats and Dogs - classic
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Post by Rutlander on Jan 11, 2024 12:34:04 GMT
What does anybody know about the Democratic Liberation Party? I can’t find a website for it What do we know so far, from their Electoral Commission registration? They were registered in December 2022, giving a Post Office Box in Grimsby as an address. The Leader being a Michael FitzGerald; other officers are Treasurer Ann Conway and nominating officer John Sears. They have a Welsh translation of the name. South Portslade is their first election candidature. This is all very mysterious because there is clearly a national level organisation. There is though, this Youtube video from Georgia Mckinley Fitch which does illuminate things: Also this www.brightonandhovenews.org/2024/01/04/by-election-candidates-answer-your-questions-georgia-mckinley-fitch/ featuring direct democracy (among the usual platitudes) |
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Post by andrewteale on Jan 11, 2024 20:26:42 GMT
I have now. Quick question for andrewteale - the deceased councillor in Dorset, was he Tony Ferranti (as per the title) or Ferrari (as in the body text)? Don't know how Ferranti got in there. I'll get it changed. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Jan 11, 2024 22:34:53 GMT
not difficult to check that one Chris. Looking at the 2019 election results on the Dorset council website it is shown that he was Tony Ferrari. I do remember Basil de Ferranti who was a Tory MEP & remember his son from Cambridge - he had a sort of Roy Jenkins-like speech semi-impediment. ‘Rancour’ best avoided then. |
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Post by manchesterman on Jan 11, 2024 23:25:11 GMT
Andrew's preview of Quays was excellent (as ever).Ive known the area quite well (on and off) for the past 40 years. I can remember when it was a wasteland to some extent, the the regeneration began and i swear that from that day to this, there has never NOT been a crane in sight on the Quays. Certainly the expansion - first upwards with the high-rise (high-end) apartments), then outwards into Pomona, shows no sign of ending.
I expect a close result, but went for a LD win as Paul Heilbron is quite well known locally, unlike the Labour candidate. A small personal vote may just be enough...but we will see in the next hour or 2 I guess!
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 11, 2024 23:37:46 GMT
SALFORD Quays
Paul Heilbron (Lib Dem) 540
Elizabeth McCoy (Labour) 321
Andrea Jospehine Romero O’Brien (Green Party) 124
985 valid votes; 8 ballots rejected
12.3% turnout
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Post by andrewp on Jan 11, 2024 23:43:06 GMT
Salford Quays
LD 54.8% (+17.4)
Lab 32.6% (-12.6)
Green 12.6% (+3.4)
No Con from before
Changes from May 2023
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Post by manchesterman on Jan 11, 2024 23:44:16 GMT
Wow! Thought it would be closer than that!
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