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Post by uthacalthing on Feb 16, 2024 7:28:31 GMT
Where will be the best website/channel for coverage of this by-election and the Kingswood by-election? If Labour win GBNews. It’ll be f**king hilarious. On a serious point - no sign of any serious coverage alas. GB News gave it full coverage. They were OK until the result, then went full fawn mode on Reform |
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Post by jamesdoyle on Feb 16, 2024 7:34:29 GMT
Oh my we are SO CRAP at by-elections aren’t we These are excellent results, well done to Labour |
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Post by matureleft on Feb 16, 2024 7:36:27 GMT
The negative circumstances of this vacancy plus the near “double down” candidate selection didn’t help. Labour had more time to set up here than in Kingswood. And the Tory resignation there was on a claimed point of principle as opposed to being extracted from Parliament through a lengthy and very personal process. Although Skidmore resigning so close to a GE didn’t go down well with some I spoke to. The cost of an election to a council that is skint was mentioned by an ex-Tory now Labour voter. I’m pretty sure that the council gets recompensed for those costs, but if that’s what they thought… |
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Post by r34t on Feb 16, 2024 7:56:12 GMT
Although Skidmore resigning so close to a GE didn’t go down well with some I spoke to. The cost of an election to a council that is skint was mentioned by an ex-Tory now Labour voter. I’m pretty sure that the council gets recompensed for those costs, but if that’s what they thought… Day’s never lost when you learn something, but I guess it cost someone 😀 |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 16, 2024 8:23:52 GMT
Starts her acceptance speech with 'So..'  Ah Bless! |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 16, 2024 8:25:20 GMT
So Kitchen didn't quite match the Dudley West swing, Reform got more than 13% of the vote and more than half as many as the Tories, and the LDems lost their deposit by 86 votes. So! Something salvaged from a poor night then! |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 16, 2024 8:27:50 GMT
28.5% swing so only just short of Dudley West 1994 But short of it and thus no record and no cigar. And after the Conservatives worked so very hard at getting everything as wrong as they could to aid the worst possible result. |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 16, 2024 8:30:37 GMT
Oh my we are SO CRAP at by-elections aren’t we Rochdale says Hi! |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 16, 2024 8:34:34 GMT
I'm really not sure what he thought he was going to achieve by it. If he wanted to embarrass the Tories, he could have just defected to Labour or the Greens and it would probably have been more of a news story than yet another by-election defeat. Or a letter to the 1922… Speaking of which, can we expect a few more to come in, given the recession headline on top of double BE defeats. Given RS was meant to have been brought in to clear up the mess the economy was left in by his predecessor… a recession headline isn’t a great look. Or will we have to wait after the local elections… Only if they are quite beyond terminally stupid at this juncture of the cycle? So! Perhaps about 30? |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 16, 2024 8:40:17 GMT
By-election swing on new boundaries  | Lab | 550 | | SNP | 40 | | LD | 31 | | Con | 8 | | PC | 1 | | Grn | 1 | | Speaker | 1 | | NI | 18 |
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Ah! My constituency of Mid Kent stands out like a shining beacon in a naughty world. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Feb 16, 2024 8:44:15 GMT
By-election swing on new boundaries | Lab | 550 | | SNP | 40 | | LD | 31 | | Con | 8 | | PC | 1 | | Grn | 1 | | Speaker | 1 | | NI | 18 |
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Ah! My constituency of Mid Kent stands out like a shining beacon in a naughty world. That would make for an interesting Tory leadership competition. |
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Post by London Lad on Feb 16, 2024 8:47:15 GMT
If only more MP's were like this girl...
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 16, 2024 8:54:08 GMT
Ah! My constituency of Mid Kent stands out like a shining beacon in a naughty world. That would make for an interesting Tory leadership competition. Well! I would win it of course. Unless they wanted 7-by elections? |
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Post by stb12 on Feb 16, 2024 9:04:23 GMT
If only more MP's were like this girl... Very gracious and non-partisan, how refreshing in politics |
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Post by matureleft on Feb 16, 2024 9:06:45 GMT
If only more MP's were like this girl... And sensible. Her next task is to hold the seat and that will mean building a strong local reputation, including with people who didn’t vote for her. Making comments about defeated opponents doesn’t help, particularly as the Tory remains a leading councillor. Looks like Labour picked well here. |
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Post by stb12 on Feb 16, 2024 9:13:54 GMT
If only more MP's were like this girl... And sensible. Her next task is to hold the seat and that will mean building a strong local reputation, including with people who didn’t vote for her. Making comments about defeated opponents doesn’t help, particularly as the Tory remains a leading councillor. Looks like Labour picked well here. It would probably have been easy to get carried away considering the level of the swing so like you say she’s clearly grounded enough to see the bigger picture |
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Post by batman on Feb 16, 2024 9:23:14 GMT
Oh my we are SO CRAP at by-elections aren’t we Rochdale says Hi! I did specifically say that Rochdale was an example of being crap at by-elections  It was James's over-generalisation which I was poking fun at, which he has accepted gracefully. |
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Post by batman on Feb 16, 2024 9:26:01 GMT
If only more MP's were like this girl... And sensible. Her next task is to hold the seat and that will mean building a strong local reputation, including with people who didn’t vote for her. Making comments about defeated opponents doesn’t help, particularly as the Tory remains a leading councillor. Looks like Labour picked well here. with the Rochdale fiasco in between, we have unearthed a couple of gems I think in her & Alistair Strathern. Both exceptional by-election candidates & both very youthful too. With Keir Mather in Yorkshire not far behind |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 16, 2024 9:26:58 GMT
I did specifically say that Rochdale was an example of bring crap at by-elections It was James's over-generalisation which I was poking fun at, which he has accepted gracefully. I know. But as discrete sound bites, I couldn't resist. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Feb 16, 2024 9:32:18 GMT
And sensible. Her next task is to hold the seat and that will mean building a strong local reputation, including with people who didn’t vote for her. Making comments about defeated opponents doesn’t help, particularly as the Tory remains a leading councillor. Looks like Labour picked well here. with the Rochdale fiasco in between, we have unearthed a couple of gems I think in her & Alistair Strathern. Both exceptional by-election candidates & both very youthful too. With Keir Mather in Yorkshire not far behind I felt that Damien Egan’s speech hit the nail on the head, I was almost shouting ‘that’s exactly how I feel’ at the radio, which would be a very rare event indeed. |
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It was James's over-generalisation which I was poking fun at, which he has accepted gracefully.