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Post by brianj on Feb 16, 2024 4:08:31 GMT
So Kitchen didn't quite match the Dudley West swing, Reform got more than 13% of the vote and more than half as many as the Tories, and the LDems lost their deposit by 86 votes.
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Post by Khunanup on Feb 16, 2024 4:09:07 GMT
Brick, Nick tF (OMRLP) 217 Gunn (LDm) 1,422 Habib (Ref) 3,919 Harrison (Con) 7,408 Love (Ind) 18 Kitchen (Lab) 13,844 Merola (BF) 477 Morris (Grn) 1,020 Pyne-Bailey (Ind) 172 Turner-Hawes (Ind) 1,115 Watts (Ind) 533 Absolute shocker for the Tories, utterly horrendous result. |
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Post by nyx on Feb 16, 2024 4:09:11 GMT
28.5% swing so only just short of Dudley West 1994
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Post by willpower3 on Feb 16, 2024 4:09:16 GMT
Starts her acceptance speech with 'So..'  Forget Bone's indiscretions, this should merit an immediate recall petition. |
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Post by maxque on Feb 16, 2024 4:14:20 GMT
Lab 45.8% Con 24.5% Ref 13% LD 4.7% Turner-Hawes 3.7% Grn 3.4% Watts 1.8% BF 1.6% OMRLP 0.7% PyneBailey 0.6% Love 0.1% So, the dissident Green beats the Greens? |
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Post by YL on Feb 16, 2024 4:14:55 GMT
28.5% swing so only just short of Dudley West 1994 It didn't beat that record but it did break robert1's Christchurch record for the biggest fall in Tory vote share. |
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Post by batman on Feb 16, 2024 4:16:43 GMT
Oh my we are SO CRAP at by-elections aren’t we
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Post by batman on Feb 16, 2024 4:18:26 GMT
More seriously, the mood music from London Regional Labour was that Wellingborough would be a comfortable win, and that Kingswood was the seat that there were more concerns about. This was shown to be correct.
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Post by r34t on Feb 16, 2024 4:24:29 GMT
More seriously, the mood music from London Regional Labour was that Wellingborough would be a comfortable win, and that Kingswood was the seat that there were more concerns about. This was shown to be correct. Yes, did wonder if Kingswood would be Uxbridge to Wellingborough’s Selby. But not  |
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Post by CatholicLeft on Feb 16, 2024 4:25:48 GMT
More seriously, the mood music from London Regional Labour was that Wellingborough would be a comfortable win, and that Kingswood was the seat that there were more concerns about. This was shown to be correct. Aye, but Kingswood was still a comfortable victory. |
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Post by matureleft on Feb 16, 2024 4:28:35 GMT
The negative circumstances of this vacancy plus the near “double down” candidate selection didn’t help. Labour had more time to set up here than in Kingswood. And the Tory resignation there was on a claimed point of principle as opposed to being extracted from Parliament through a lengthy and very personal process.
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Post by johnloony on Feb 16, 2024 4:30:32 GMT
The Kingswood swing in Wellingborough would be a Conservative majority of 900
The Wellingborough swing in Kingswood would be a Labour majority of 8,300
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Post by r34t on Feb 16, 2024 4:32:44 GMT
The negative circumstances of this vacancy plus the near “double down” candidate selection didn’t help. Labour had more time to set up here than in Kingswood. And the Tory resignation there was on a claimed point of principle as opposed to being extracted from Parliament through a lengthy and very personal process. Although Skidmore resigning so close to a GE didn’t go down well with some I spoke to. The cost of an election to a council that is skint was mentioned by an ex-Tory now Labour voter. |
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 16, 2024 4:36:43 GMT
Lab 45.8% Con 24.5% Ref 13% LD 4.7% Turner-Hawes 3.7% Grn 3.4% Watts 1.8% BF 1.6% OMRLP 0.7% PyneBailey 0.6% Love 0.1% So, the dissident Green beats the Greens? Splitters! |
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Post by nyx on Feb 16, 2024 4:40:12 GMT
The negative circumstances of this vacancy plus the near “double down” candidate selection didn’t help. Labour had more time to set up here than in Kingswood. And the Tory resignation there was on a claimed point of principle as opposed to being extracted from Parliament through a lengthy and very personal process. Although Skidmore resigning so close to a GE didn’t go down well with some I spoke to. The cost of an election to a council that is skint was mentioned by an ex-Tory now Labour voter. I'm really not sure what he thought he was going to achieve by it. If he wanted to embarrass the Tories, he could have just defected to Labour or the Greens and it would probably have been more of a news story than yet another by-election defeat. |
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Post by bsjmcr on Feb 16, 2024 4:44:13 GMT
Although Skidmore resigning so close to a GE didn’t go down well with some I spoke to. The cost of an election to a council that is skint was mentioned by an ex-Tory now Labour voter. I'm really not sure what he thought he was going to achieve by it. If he wanted to embarrass the Tories, he could have just defected to Labour or the Greens and it would probably have been more of a news story than yet another by-election defeat. Or a letter to the 1922… Speaking of which, can we expect a few more to come in, given the recession headline on top of double BE defeats. Given RS was meant to have been brought in to clear up the mess the economy was left in by his predecessor… a recession headline isn’t a great look. Or will we have to wait after the local elections… |
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Post by bsjmcr on Feb 16, 2024 4:55:50 GMT
Also, as I find this stuff interesting, does anyone know the actual count venue and if it even will be in Wellingborough? North Northamptonshire council is officially based in Corby. I wonder if it will be another Batley and Spen when the anoraks watching the result were tweeting why does it say LIVE:Huddersfield ! I can already imagine how low-key it will be, probably no stage and a basic boilerplate ‘pull up banner’, no touristy fancy pictures or cheesy slogans “Welcome to Wellingborough: a great place to Live and Work” I have been proved wrong - a very smart set up by North Northants council (in neighbouring Kettering) complete with cheesy slogan “Your community, your council, We’re here for you”! And an eloquent RO in fancy dress. Shame they didn’t have the candidates on stage though (can’t obscure our fancy background!) but would loved to have seen the look on Helen Harrison’s face. Whereas it was South Gloucestershire that had the more basic set-up! A couple of A3 posters of the council logo stuck on a wall obscured by the candidates which was helpful given many people wouldn’t know where Kingswood is (sounds more like it should be in London). Perhaps they should have branded it the (Greater) Bristol by-election… |
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Post by nyx on Feb 16, 2024 5:06:54 GMT
I'm sure you will be relieved to hear that one of the two successor constituencies is called Bristol North East. It would make sense to rename Filton and Bradley Stoke as "Bristol North", too, but unfortunately administrative boundaries do not match obvious reality. |
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Post by london(ex)tory on Feb 16, 2024 5:13:16 GMT
Oh my we are SO CRAP at by-elections aren’t we Very impressive Labour campaign on the ground - well done and well deserved result. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 16, 2024 5:53:33 GMT
By-election swing on new boundaries  | Lab | 550 | | SNP | 40 | | LD | 31 | | Con | 8 | | PC | 1 | | Grn | 1 | | Speaker | 1 | | NI | 18 |
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