nodealbrexiteer
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Dec 19, 2023 21:41:23 GMT
The Tories will not allow Bone and probably an independent as it's likely there now will a new Tory candidate. With Bone, Tory and Reform with three right wing candidates, Labour likely to do better. , you liked this. Can you explain it to me? In the sense it seemed like a reasonable assessment of the possible situation! |
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Post by evergreenadam on Dec 19, 2023 21:42:04 GMT
If I was in charge of the Labour campaign here, I'd be worried tonight that only 13% signed. That's a pretty low turnout in the circumstances. Will they be able to turn out enough people in a winter by-election? I'd be asking Santa for Peter Bone to stand.... In retrospect the 10% of the electorate threshold is actually quite low. Most (if not all?) recall petitions manage to succeed. I wonder how many MPs who have lost their seat through the recall process regret voting for that legislation and how many current MPs might be keen to raise the threshold in the future. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Dec 19, 2023 21:44:46 GMT
10% is fine. Remember that Recall is already very restrictive in our system. The higher the threshold, the more power given to MPs, and the whole point is to give power to the people.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Dec 19, 2023 21:45:05 GMT
I get it. You strongly believe that useless people ought not to be told they are useless. And like Baroness Mone, you have neglected to declare an interest.  |
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Dec 19, 2023 21:48:44 GMT
10% is fine. Remember that Recall is already very restrictive in our system. The higher the threshold, the more power given to MPs, and the whole point is to give power to the people. We have that power already it's called a General Election |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Dec 19, 2023 21:53:54 GMT
10% is fine. Remember that Recall is already very restrictive in our system. The higher the threshold, the more power given to MPs, and the whole point is to give power to the people. We have that power already it's called a General Election But MPs who know their constituency is safe as houses can, and will, get away with all sorts in-between elections and usually get away with it. Recall is a reminder that it's not the old days any more. |
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Post by iain on Dec 19, 2023 21:57:43 GMT
If I was in charge of the Labour campaign here, I'd be worried tonight that only 13% signed. That's a pretty low turnout in the circumstances. Will they be able to turn out enough people in a winter by-election? I'd be asking Santa for Peter Bone to stand.... Similar to Rutherglen isn’t it? |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Dec 19, 2023 21:59:58 GMT
If I was in charge of the Labour campaign here, I'd be worried tonight that only 13% signed. That's a pretty low turnout in the circumstances. Will they be able to turn out enough people in a winter by-election? I'd be asking Santa for Peter Bone to stand.... Similar to Rutherglen isn’t it? I wonder if, in cases like this and Rutherglen, voters think "Ah enough are going to sign it, they're toast, it's fine" A higher percentage would be preferable, but as it stands, the rules are the rules. |
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Post by graham on Dec 19, 2023 22:02:40 GMT
Some local government by elections struggle to exceed 13%
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 19, 2023 22:03:44 GMT
We have that power already it's called a General Election But MPs who know their constituency is safe as houses can, and will, get away with all sorts in-between elections and usually get away with it. Recall is a reminder that it's not the old days any more. It is a reminder that we live in a nasty, intrusive, mean-minded, vindictive period designed for and by miserable loser wimps who wish to destroy rather than to create. Modern society is all about the showing up of, the shutting down of, the bringing down of and general destruction of habitual norms. And the proof is all about us with third rate MPs, hounded by the media and beset by idiotic new rules and regulations that constrain all forms of human activity, in the pretence that human beings are perfectable and if in office should be altruistic paragons of ultimate virtue and not normal people at all. |
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Post by uthacalthing on Dec 19, 2023 22:04:42 GMT
In the sense it seemed like a reasonable assessment of the possible situation Next March I am going to see Clearwater Credence Revival. This demonstrates the power and weakness of the human mind. I still have no idea. You still have no idea that I might have no idea let alone why I might have no idea |
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 19, 2023 22:08:29 GMT
Similar to Rutherglen isn’t it? I wonder if, in cases like this and Rutherglen, voters think "Ah enough are going to sign it, they're toast, it's fine" A higher percentage would be preferable, but as it stands, the rules are the rules. Woden damn the rules and the curse the abominable act itself. Well over 80% are content but the mean-minded usual suspect 13% win the day for a completely stupid by-election. Damn them to utter perdition for doing so. Tribal miscreants who have no idea if he is guilty of anything but slavering at the chance to pull him down for any reason just so long as they get another one in their sights. |
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Post by graham on Dec 19, 2023 22:12:13 GMT
Turnout at the December 1969 by election here exceeded 75%.
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 19, 2023 22:12:16 GMT
In the sense it seemed like a reasonable assessment of the possible situation Next March I am going to see Clearwater Credence Revival. This demonstrates the power and weakness of the human mind. I still have no idea. You still have no idea that I might have no idea let alone why I might have no idea I think only the weakness old fellow. |
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Dec 19, 2023 22:14:39 GMT
Peter Bone was elected in 2019 with 32,277 votes. He has now been removed from office by the signatures of 10,505 people.
This is an absolute affront to democracy and this sordid little "recall" scheme should be abolished.
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 19, 2023 22:15:58 GMT
Peter Bone was elected in 2019 with 32,277 votes. He has now been removed from office by the signatures of 10,505 people. This is an absolute affront to democracy and this sordid little "recall" scheme should be abolished. Quoted to like it again. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Dec 19, 2023 22:20:26 GMT
If those 32,777 still wish him to be their MP, they will get their opportunity to make that clear, always assuming that he wishes to put himself forward again.
I appreciate the urge to close ranks round a socially inadequate bully, but at a certain point you have to learn when to accept a loss.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Dec 19, 2023 22:21:13 GMT
I see the usual suspects are taking this well.
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Post by islington on Dec 19, 2023 22:21:17 GMT
Is it possible Bone will be the Reform UK candidate? Wouldn't put it past him. "Reform" being the party of people who don't want reform, they want to rewind. Actually, since names starting with 'Re-' seem to be in vogue in this part of the political spectrum, 'Rewind' would be a far more suitable name than either 'Reform' or 'Reclaim'; it would be a much better, or at least more honest, expression of their outlook and aims. |
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Post by uthacalthing on Dec 19, 2023 22:26:29 GMT
I appreciate the urge to close ranks round a socially inadequate bully, but at a certain point you have to learn when to accept a loss. Tonights hostage to fortune |
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