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Post by jamie on Oct 14, 2023 12:08:08 GMT
And just like that the Remote booths in Lingari are coming in heavily Yes. The 3 largest are over 80% Yes.
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Post by jamie on Oct 14, 2023 12:22:38 GMT
It’s interesting how resilient the Yes vote has been in the sort of places you’d expect it to do well (inner city, Teal suburbs, alternative lifestyle villages, aboriginal communities) while doing terribly in most other places. Notably, this is pretty irrespective of whether the place is Labor or Liberal voting, suggesting people were making up their own mind rather than taking cues from the party they vote for (correlation rather than causation so to speak).
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 12:26:16 GMT
It’s interesting how resilient the Yes vote has been in the sort of places you’d expect it to do well (inner city, Teal suburbs, alternative lifestyle villages, aboriginal communities) while doing terribly in most other places. Notably, this is pretty irrespective of whether the place is Labor or Liberal voting, suggesting people were making up their own mind rather than taking cues from the party they vote for (correlation rather than causation so to speak). I wonder why Mackellar’s YES share is so much lower than the other Sydney Teal seats. |
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Post by jamie on Oct 14, 2023 12:35:59 GMT
I wonder why Mackellar’s YES share is so much lower than the other Sydney Teal seats. The average Teal vote in 2022 is anomalous compared to its history and demographics. It was only 68% for gay marriage compared to 75% in neighbouring Warringah. It was the only seat in core north/east Sydney to vote against the Republic. It was also still only 41% Labor on 2PP last year. It’s the sort of seat that can be very responsive to a good independent, but it’s not as progressive as most seats it gets grouped in with. |
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Oct 14, 2023 12:37:04 GMT
One commentator on social media has stated that with the NO votes currently tallying at 7.48 million, there is a comparsion with the fact that Sky News Australia (which during the campaign has called the whole thing "a dicator's charter" and spoken against it extensively) has 9 million viewers every month.
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Post by johnloony on Oct 14, 2023 12:40:11 GMT
Isn't West Sydney rather ethnically diverse (barring the far west around Penrith)? There seemed to be some talk earlier on that working class recent immigrants and their descendants might be quite strong for No. Yes it is ethnically diverse. I remember that the western suburbs of Sydney were among the places which most heavily voted against Same Sex Marriage, partly because of the large number of recent immigrants from Catholic and Muslim countries. |
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Post by jamie on Oct 14, 2023 12:48:46 GMT
I am so glad that racist elites like Marcia Langton have been soundly defeated by the Australian people. “It will be at least two generations before Australians are capable of putting their colonial hatreds behind them and acknowledging that we exist”. Oh well, at least she can go back to calling climate change activists racist now. |
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 12:51:59 GMT
Lingiari electorate isn’t even 40% counted yet - it’s too early to draw any conclusions about the result there. The results in Indigenous booths in WA and QLD are not exactly suggestive of a majority of Indigenous people voting No, and that’s despite polling indicating that people who know an indigenous person (I.e. the non-indigenous people in these communities) are the most No voting bloc. Just because you know an indigenous person doesn’t mean you’re friends with one… |
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Post by ibfc on Oct 14, 2023 12:54:33 GMT
Quite surprising to see WA come in better for Yes than SA.
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Post by johnloony on Oct 14, 2023 12:55:22 GMT
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 12:56:25 GMT
NO is officially 20pc ahead.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 14, 2023 12:57:11 GMT
Lingiari electorate isn’t even 40% counted yet - it’s too early to draw any conclusions about the result there. The results in Indigenous booths in WA and QLD are not exactly suggestive of a majority of Indigenous people voting No, and that’s despite polling indicating that people who know an indigenous person (I.e. the non-indigenous people in these communities) are the most No voting bloc. Nobody expected anything an majority of indigenous people to vote No but that clear fact that a reasonable number have done demonstrates that attempts to portray a No vote is simply motivated by racism or a colonial mindset is very wide of the mark. |
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Post by jamie on Oct 14, 2023 12:58:29 GMT
Quite surprising to see WA come in better for Yes than SA. WA is less advanced than SA so they should converge a bit more, but it’s certainly notable how SA seems to have been No leaning rather than similar to the national vote. You have to wonder if the SA state government will take any message from this for their (legislated) Voice… |
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 12:58:44 GMT
Quite surprising to see WA come in better for Yes than SA. Mostly because NO somehow won in inner city Adelaide. |
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Post by jamie on Oct 14, 2023 13:01:27 GMT
The results in Indigenous booths in WA and QLD are not exactly suggestive of a majority of Indigenous people voting No, and that’s despite polling indicating that people who know an indigenous person (I.e. the non-indigenous people in these communities) are the most No voting bloc. Nobody expected anything an majority of indigenous people to vote No but that clear fact that a reasonable number have done demonstrates that attempts to portray a No vote is simply motivated by racism or a colonial mindset is very wide of the mark.Well yes, but the people arguing that have given little indication they’re open to reasoned arguments (and FWIW, there is quite a bit of uncertainly among the public in how indigenous people are voting due to the massively outsized representation of indigenous people in both the official and ‘progressive’ No campaigns). |
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Post by jamie on Oct 14, 2023 13:03:05 GMT
Quite surprising to see WA come in better for Yes than SA. Mostly because NO somehow won in inner city Adelaide. As a general rule, Melbourne and especially Sydney are the most socially and therefore politically polarised cities in Australia, with the other capital and regional cities less so. |
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Post by willpower3 on Oct 14, 2023 13:03:15 GMT
About half of the remaining votes will be postals, and Queensland has a lower count than most other states and territories. Yes will be lucky to keep it within 20% on the final results.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 13:06:13 GMT
Mostly because NO somehow won in inner city Adelaide. As a general rule, Melbourne and especially Sydney are the most socially and therefore politically polarised cities in Australia, with the other capital and regional cities less so. Yes, but YES is leading by 12% in inner city Perth (I assume the margin is going to come down) while NO is winning inner city Adelaide by 2%. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Oct 14, 2023 13:14:07 GMT
Wow, the population voting map makes it hugely clear how massively tiny the number of people in Northern Territory is. 2 electoral districts compared to eg five in Tasmania which is ten times smaller geographiclly. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Oct 14, 2023 13:15:45 GMT
Isn't West Sydney rather ethnically diverse (barring the far west around Penrith)? There seemed to be some talk earlier on that working class recent immigrants and their descendants might be quite strong for No. Yes it is ethnically diverse. but... but.... diverse people are supposed to be good right-thinking progressives! |
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