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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 9:46:54 GMT
Can large corporations please stop supporting divisive social causes?
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Post by jamie on Oct 14, 2023 9:56:11 GMT
Newcastle operates as a major regional city (see also Wollongong). There’s a big university, quite a lot of gentrification etc. Fun fact, it was Labour’s biggest two party preferred margin in a seat that finished Labor vs Liberal in 2022. If you're looking for working class regional Labor/No voters, take a look at Hunter and Paterson… Newcastle isn’t a working class union stronghold anymore? I compared Newcastle and West Sydney specifically because they are working class and urban (unlike Hunter and Paterson). It’s still fairly working class, but compared to Western Sydney more inner urban and especially a lot more ‘progressive’ with a high Greens vote. It’s not that different from a couple of seats in English Newcastle. |
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 9:58:12 GMT
ABC has called NT for NO
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Post by heslingtonian on Oct 14, 2023 10:06:38 GMT
Is this referendum the Australian version of Brexit? The demographics appear quite similar
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 10:09:21 GMT
Is this referendum the Australian version of Brexit? The demographics appear quite similar I don’t think the heavily BAME constituencies in the UK voted Heavily LEAVE… |
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Post by willpower3 on Oct 14, 2023 10:17:08 GMT
Is this referendum the Australian version of Brexit? The demographics appear quite similar Barnaby Joyce's support for No probably didn't sway the result. |
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Oct 14, 2023 10:18:20 GMT
Bloody hell, the ABC broadcast is the definition of “cringe”, literally every single panel member is a YES voter or Progressive NO. Would the BBC be any different in these circumstances? The BBC's coverage of this subject has been utterly staggering for its bias. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 14, 2023 10:19:29 GMT
Tasmania was supposed to be the strongest state for YES. There were a couple of pollsters who actually gave very small Tasmanian subsamples in the last few weeks and they found it markedly Yes voting. This went against conventional wisdom and polling from earlier in the campaign. There was a late larger subsample which suggested it was more average in support. The latter looks to be correct. 0 I suspect they were from Hobart. Ftr, Tas will swing slightly more to 'Yes' (though will still be a firm 'No') when more results come in: divisions of Braddon and Lyons ahead of the rest in counting r/n. |
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 10:30:15 GMT
ABC has called Victoria for NO
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Post by willpower3 on Oct 14, 2023 10:35:02 GMT
ABC has called Victoria for NO Melbourne (the division) looks as though it will have the highest Yes vote in the country. To the surprise of virtually no one. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 14, 2023 10:59:27 GMT
I note that the basic geography of the referendum on The Voice is much the same as that on the Monarchy in 1999.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 11:02:33 GMT
ABC has called Western Australia for NO.
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Post by jamie on Oct 14, 2023 11:20:13 GMT
I note that the basic geography of the referendum on The Voice is much the same as that on the Monarchy in 1999. Although if anything a bit more polarised. |
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 14, 2023 11:22:35 GMT
Can large corporations please stop supporting divisive social causes? Leaving the "divisive" question aside for the time being, isn't the (ahem) bottom line that they do this because there is money in it? |
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 11:28:10 GMT
Can large corporations please stop supporting divisive social causes? Leaving the "divisive" question aside for the time being, isn't the (ahem) bottom line that they do this because there is money in it? Not sure it was a smart move for literally almost every large Australian corporation to support a cause that was just defeated by 20%… Disney is also suffering for supporting social causes. |
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Post by Sibboleth on Oct 14, 2023 11:31:30 GMT
I note that the basic geography of the referendum on The Voice is much the same as that on the Monarchy in 1999. Although if anything a bit more polarised. Larger urban progressive population now and also much more hostility from non-Aboriginal minorities (it seems) to the question than 'should Australia be a Republic?' |
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Post by ntyuk1707 on Oct 14, 2023 11:46:11 GMT
Lingairi electorate, where 41% of electors are indigenous, is projected to vote 63% No! This is above the national average.
I am so glad that racist elites like Marcia Langton have been soundly defeated by the Australian people. A clear showing that both indigenous and non-indigenous Australians want to be treated equally in law, regardless of their ethnic ancestry.
Well done to the superbly organised No campaign, who unlike Yes exchanged in a factual and fair debate and reached out to all sections of the electorate, including young people and indigenous Australians who Yes23 had probably taken for granted.
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Post by iain on Oct 14, 2023 11:59:00 GMT
Lingairi electorate, where 41% of electors are indigenous, is projected to vote 63% No! This is above the national average. I am so glad that racist elites like Marcia Langton have been soundly defeated by the Australian people. A clear showing that both indigenous and non-indigenous Australians want to be treated equally in law, regardless of their ethnic ancestry. Well done to the superbly organised No campaign, who unlike Yes exchanged in a factual and fair debate and reached out to all sections of the electorate, including young people and indigenous Australians who Yes23 had probably taken for granted. Lingiari electorate isn’t even 40% counted yet - it’s too early to draw any conclusions about the result there. |
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Post by jamie on Oct 14, 2023 12:04:54 GMT
Lingairi electorate, where 41% of electors are indigenous, is projected to vote 63% No! This is above the national average. I am so glad that racist elites like Marcia Langton have been soundly defeated by the Australian people. A clear showing that both indigenous and non-indigenous Australians want to be treated equally in law, regardless of their ethnic ancestry. Well done to the superbly organised No campaign, who unlike Yes exchanged in a factual and fair debate and reached out to all sections of the electorate, including young people and indigenous Australians who Yes23 had probably taken for granted. Lingiari electorate isn’t even 40% counted yet - it’s too early to draw any conclusions about the result there. The results in Indigenous booths in WA and QLD are not exactly suggestive of a majority of Indigenous people voting No, and that’s despite polling indicating that people who know an indigenous person (I.e. the non-indigenous people in these communities) are the most No voting bloc. |
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Post by ibfc on Oct 14, 2023 12:06:01 GMT
Leaving the "divisive" question aside for the time being, isn't the (ahem) bottom line that they do this because there is money in it? Not sure it was a smart move for literally almost every large Australian corporation to support a cause that was just defeated by 20%… Disney is also suffering for supporting social causes. Corporations support causes for their HR departments not their customers. |
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