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Post by heslingtonian on Oct 14, 2023 8:25:19 GMT
South Australia called for No by ABC.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 8:25:19 GMT
ABC has called Tasmania and New South Wales for No, ACT for Yes. ABC has now called South Australia for NO |
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Post by heslingtonian on Oct 14, 2023 8:26:34 GMT
A No win has been called by the broadcasters.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 8:32:26 GMT
Bloody hell, the ABC broadcast is the definition of “cringe”, literally every single panel member is a YES voter or Progressive NO.
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Post by heslingtonian on Oct 14, 2023 8:36:01 GMT
Bloody hell, the ABC broadcast is the definition of “cringe”, literally every single panel member is a YES voter or Progressive NO. Would the BBC be any different in these circumstances? |
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 8:37:20 GMT
Voice is going to lose by significantly more than 10%, considering that Queensland and Western Australia have still not released any results.
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Post by heslingtonian on Oct 14, 2023 8:38:09 GMT
One wonders whether the fairly decisive defeat of this referendum will make a future ALP administration more reticent about holding another referendum on a republic.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 8:38:30 GMT
Bloody hell, the ABC broadcast is the definition of “cringe”, literally every single panel member is a YES voter or Progressive NO. Would the BBC be any different in these circumstances? Yes, but the gay anchor with the indigenous rainbow tie literally looks like he is going to cry. |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Oct 14, 2023 8:42:01 GMT
Bloody hell, the ABC broadcast is the definition of “cringe”, literally every single panel member is a YES voter or Progressive NO. Yes, the evident disappointment on both broadcasters' faces was pathetic. It made the BBC over Brexit look like a beacon of impartiality. |
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Post by jamie on Oct 14, 2023 8:43:44 GMT
Bloody hell, the ABC broadcast is the definition of “cringe”, literally every single panel member is a YES voter or Progressive NO. Would the BBC be any different in these circumstances? Yes. The ABC along with much of the Australian broadcast media is genuinely biased in a way that would be completely unacceptable in the UK. There’s a large overrepresentation of left wing progressives along with Liberal ‘moderates’. There’s an underrepresentation of traditional Labor voters, especially those with working class or non-progressive viewpoints. |
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Post by jamie on Oct 14, 2023 8:47:59 GMT
Straws in the wind, but a couple of pre-polls I’ve seen do not look very good for Yes.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 9:03:29 GMT
ABC has called Queensland for NO.
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Post by heslingtonian on Oct 14, 2023 9:03:55 GMT
Queensland called for No by a large margin.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 9:17:22 GMT
I find it fascinating that Western Sydney voted heavily NO, yet, Newcastle seems like a solid 10% YES.
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 9:18:49 GMT
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Post by jamie on Oct 14, 2023 9:21:28 GMT
I find it fascinating that Western Sydney voted heavily NO, yet, Newcastle seems like a solid 10% YES. Newcastle operates as a major regional city (see also Wollongong). There’s a big university, quite a lot of gentrification etc. Fun fact, it was Labour’s biggest two party preferred margin in a seat that finished Labor vs Liberal in 2022. If you're looking for working class regional Labor/No voters, take a look at Hunter and Paterson… |
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 9:24:51 GMT
I find it fascinating that Western Sydney voted heavily NO, yet, Newcastle seems like a solid 10% YES. Newcastle operates as a major regional city (see also Wollongong). There’s a big university, quite a lot of gentrification etc. Fun fact, it was Labour’s biggest two party preferred margin in a seat that finished Labor vs Liberal in 2022. If you're looking for working class regional Labor/No voters, take a look at Hunter and Paterson… Newcastle isn’t a working class union stronghold anymore? I compared Newcastle and West Sydney specifically because they are working class and urban (unlike Hunter and Paterson). |
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Post by bjornhattan on Oct 14, 2023 9:26:30 GMT
Newcastle operates as a major regional city (see also Wollongong). There’s a big university, quite a lot of gentrification etc. Fun fact, it was Labour’s biggest two party preferred margin in a seat that finished Labor vs Liberal in 2022. If you're looking for working class regional Labor/No voters, take a look at Hunter and Paterson… Newcastle isn’t a working class union stronghold anymore? I compared Newcastle and West Sydney specifically because they are working class and urban (unlike Hunter and Paterson). Isn't West Sydney rather ethnically diverse (barring the far west around Penrith)? There seemed to be some talk earlier on that working class recent immigrants and their descendants might be quite strong for No. |
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 9:28:16 GMT
Newcastle isn’t a working class union stronghold anymore? I compared Newcastle and West Sydney specifically because they are working class and urban (unlike Hunter and Paterson). Isn't West Sydney rather ethnically diverse (barring the far west around Penrith)? There seemed to be some talk earlier on that working class recent immigrants and their descendants might be quite strong for No. Yes it is ethnically diverse. |
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Post by rcronald on Oct 14, 2023 9:40:29 GMT
Out of the 4 Sydney Teal seats, Mackellar is easily the least YES heavy.
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