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Stroud
Apr 24, 2024 5:29:16 GMT
Post by froome on Apr 24, 2024 5:29:16 GMT
Also a problem in high density higgledy piggledy city centres I can think of a couple I've seen recently where a handful of front doors are positioned "opposite" or "back to front" to the run of the street. It takes a bit of getting used to. I suspect some people choose to have their front door at the rear of their building so that they can avoid getting leaflets being delivered or being canvassed. Especially if the back door can only be reached by an alleyway. I know a few in the middle of long terraces, where a persistent deliverer needs to walk up to a quarter of a mile just to reach the back door from outside the front of the house.
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Apr 24, 2024 11:10:14 GMT
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Post by J.G.Harston on Apr 24, 2024 11:10:14 GMT
Those doorbells which link to the mobile phone were a bit of a shock to me when I first encountered one - someone replying to the ring to say that they weren't in puzzled me considerably for some minutes. Hi, you said you'd sign the nomination form. Oooo, I can't at the moment, I'm at the top of Mount Snowden. Yerwot? 😱
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Stroud
Apr 24, 2024 11:11:22 GMT
Post by greenchristian on Apr 24, 2024 11:11:22 GMT
Those doorbells which link to the mobile phone were a bit of a shock to me when I first encountered one - someone replying to the ring to say that they weren't in puzzled me considerably for some minutes. Their main saving grace is that most of the time they don't work. It's rare that I come away from one of those conversations feeling good about how it's gone. The absolute worst is when the person on the other end of the doorbell isn't even the resident.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Apr 24, 2024 11:48:58 GMT
My personal favourite doorstep remark was:
"I'm glad you've called; there's something important I want to raise with you. If this council doesn't buck up its ideas and change policy it'll be the death of country music in this town ..."
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Post by robert1 on Apr 24, 2024 12:03:21 GMT
When canvassing I knocked on a door with male and female residents of the same surname on the electoral roll (names changed for obvious reasons) A female answered the door.
Me - Mrs Smith?
Female- No. I've replaced her
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Post by carlton43 on Apr 24, 2024 12:11:42 GMT
When canvassing I knocked on a door with male and female residents of the same surname on the electoral roll (names changed for obvious reasons) A female answered the door. Me - Mrs Smith? Female- No. I've replaced her I have many such memories of similar responses. "Did you mean Valerie? Happy to report she died in an accident two years ago." "No. I never married the twerp. But we still live together." "No. But I live here with Valerie. It is Mr Smith who got the push." etc., etc.
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Stroud
Apr 24, 2024 15:00:16 GMT
Post by East Anglian Lefty on Apr 24, 2024 15:00:16 GMT
Is there a dog/s? Is it at large in the garden? Does the bell work? Is there anyone in? Are they shift workers asleep? Is it a meal time? Am I interrupting a soap or a match on TV? Did I wake the baby? Where is the letter box? Has it got a kocker hanging over it? Does it have a strong spring flap and a stiff brush behind it? Is it a toe level? Is it vertical? Are there dog's teeth close behind it? Have I just dropped al the other leaflets in a puddle? Woden, I need a toilet? Will they ever stop talking? What should I say? Well are they for or against? What about other members of the household and voting? Is it safe to enter and drink their tea? Am I wasting more time? Is she/he serious about 'going upstairs'? Will this lead to front page of the Argus next week? An offer to join them for dinner and to stop working today? Another oral lambasting! A very detailed reason why the events of 1981 caused her to hate us! Can you help me move this grand piano? Do you still offer transport? Yes. What time on Polling Day? I mean down the shops now! Can you sit in and watch the kid while I go? It is a rich and eventful life on the knocker. In rural parts there is also the Find The Bloody Front Door challenge. And the ones where nobody answers the front door because anybody who knows them would have gone round the back instead.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Apr 24, 2024 18:31:12 GMT
Back to Stroud: Green Party tried to canvass while I was out, still nothing more from Labour.
It's a very odd election even by Stroud standards. As of now, the Conservatives are the largest single party on the council, having got 43% vote share in 2021 (and a shade under 40% in 2016). Normally at least half the contests are essentially Conservative vs A N Other.
Of course they're never big doorstep campaigners, they don't have to be, but they're virtually invisible apart from some PCC leafletting referencing the MP. Of course they are nationally in the doldrums, but how badly will that affect them locally? This time last year they got 32% in Painswick & Upton, so you could take that as the baseline in rural wards.
Meanwhile Labour are fighting the Greens in Stroud, and it seems in Dursley and Cam, while we are fighting the Greens in Wotton-under-Edge. Kingswood remains an old-fashioned Lib Dem v Conservative contest; I'm guessing that Coaley and Uley will still be a Green v Conservative one. With the Conservatives as challengers in both cases, you'd be surprised if they won this year. In an expected bad year for the Conservatives, with them holding a lot of seats, there are relatively few wards where there is a straight Tory Incumbent vs Obvious Challenger battle
(Exceptions would be the Green Party in Painswick & Upton and Labour in the Cam wards)
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Stroud
Apr 25, 2024 20:03:24 GMT
Post by Adam in Stroud on Apr 25, 2024 20:03:24 GMT
Now had "blue letter" (not actually blue) from Labour.
Doesn't really seem to understand the point of blue letters in that it's pretty much just another leaflet, but reasonably persuasive on the merits of the candidate.
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Post by European Lefty on Apr 26, 2024 21:54:48 GMT
I knew they were delivering that. Is it the one with Simon Opher on the other side or a new one?
Slight correction, we are fighting the Greens in Dursley, or rather a Green, but they are nowhere to be seen in Cam. Weirdly the Tories have done nothing anywhere but will still be our main challengers in this area, and might even get two seats.
On Dursley, it's really Danae who's the threat rather than the Greens. I initially predicted she'd win a seat but I have seen no evidence that they're really making in impact. As I said before I think her vote will be hard to track but the longer the campaign goes on the more I start to think Dursley will return 3 Labour
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Apr 26, 2024 21:55:58 GMT
Post by European Lefty on Apr 26, 2024 21:55:58 GMT
I believe there is also a token effort being made in Hardwicke, highly unlikely to be enough to win a seat but maybe enough to make the result closer than you'd expect
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Apr 26, 2024 23:42:34 GMT
I knew they were delivering that. Is it the one with Simon Opher on the other side or a new one? Slight correction, we are fighting the Greens in Dursley, or rather a Green, but they are nowhere to be seen in Cam. Weirdly the Tories have done nothing anywhere but will still be our main challengers in this area, and might even get two seats. On Dursley, it's really Danae who's the threat rather than the Greens. I initially predicted she'd win a seat but I have seen no evidence that they're really making in impact. As I said before I think her vote will be hard to track but the longer the campaign goes on the more I start to think Dursley will return 3 Labour One-sided, blank on the back. The complete lack of action by the Tories is spooky because, as you say, you'd still expect them to be a significant vote share in many wards and win a fair few. Incidentally, I've not managed to find out who the Gail Fearnley-Whittingstall standing for them in Chalford is, but she is surely related to the celebrity chef - the family is local and Hugh's mother Jane (known to some of us as Chelsea Gold Medal winner and former gardening columnist for The Times) is a long-standing Lib Dem supporter and mate of Ken Tucker's. Google tells me that the Telegraph carried a Death Notice a couple of years ago for a George F-W who died aged 87 and whose funeral as in The Stanleys leaving a widow Gail. If that's the one it would suggest she's pretty elderly and perhaps a sign of some desperation to find candidates for the Tories but as George F-W was recorded as a grandfather it could be e.g. a granddaughter named after her.
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Post by Merseymike on Apr 27, 2024 9:04:48 GMT
I knew they were delivering that. Is it the one with Simon Opher on the other side or a new one? Slight correction, we are fighting the Greens in Dursley, or rather a Green, but they are nowhere to be seen in Cam. Weirdly the Tories have done nothing anywhere but will still be our main challengers in this area, and might even get two seats. On Dursley, it's really Danae who's the threat rather than the Greens. I initially predicted she'd win a seat but I have seen no evidence that they're really making in impact. As I said before I think her vote will be hard to track but the longer the campaign goes on the more I start to think Dursley will return 3 Labour One-sided, blank on the back. The complete lack of action by the Tories is spooky because, as you say, you'd still expect them to be a significant vote share in many wards and win a fair few. Incidentally, I've not managed to find out who the Gail Fearnley-Whittingstall standing for them in Chalford is, but she is surely related to the celebrity chef - the family is local and Hugh's mother Jane (known to some of us as Chelsea Gold Medal winner and former gardening columnist for The Times) is a long-standing Lib Dem supporter and mate of Ken Tucker's. Google tells me that the Telegraph carried a Death Notice a couple of years ago for a George F-W who died aged 87 and whose funeral as in The Stanleys leaving a widow Gail. If that's the one it would suggest she's pretty elderly and perhaps a sign of some desperation to find candidates for the Tories but as George F-W was recorded as a grandfather it could be e.g. a granddaughter named after her. Hugh is a Green party member, though he voted tactically for the Liberal Democrats in Tiverton and Honiton.
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Post by lackeroftalent on Apr 27, 2024 9:12:57 GMT
2002 Stroud elections
Conservative candidates included
Cam East - William Fearnley-Whittingstall (believe this is George F-W)
Cam West - Gail Fearnley-Whittingstall
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Apr 28, 2024 9:50:40 GMT
Post by European Lefty on Apr 28, 2024 9:50:40 GMT
Apparently the Tories have now delivered a local leaflet in Dursley, which makes their disappearance from Cam even weirder
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Stroud
Apr 28, 2024 19:28:15 GMT
Post by Adam in Stroud on Apr 28, 2024 19:28:15 GMT
Tory leaflet also delivered in Wotton-under-Edge.
Only one candidate promoted.
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Apr 28, 2024 19:41:58 GMT
Post by European Lefty on Apr 28, 2024 19:41:58 GMT
Yes I heard about that. Our final leaflets went round Wotton, Berkeley and Cam East today and we started in Cam West and Dursley as well. I'm pretty sure I saw a Tory leaflet in Can West, which just leaves East without one now
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Stroud
Apr 28, 2024 20:16:45 GMT
Post by Adam in Stroud on Apr 28, 2024 20:16:45 GMT
Yes I heard about that. Our final leaflets went round Wotton, Berkeley and Cam East today and we started in Cam West and Dursley as well. I'm pretty sure I saw a Tory leaflet in Can West, which just leaves East without one now Saw your Wotton leaflet and had a nice chat with Simon Opher.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Apr 29, 2024 12:02:24 GMT
In rural parts there is also the Find The Bloody Front Door challenge. And the ones where nobody answers the front door because anybody who knows them would have gone round the back instead. Or the front door is locked, bolted and nailed shut with a cupboard against it because it was last used in 1954.
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Post by European Lefty on Apr 30, 2024 10:05:52 GMT
The Tories have delivered us a local election leaflet telling us all about their candidates for Dursley ward.
Problem is I live in Cam. And not even that close to the border
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