The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 9, 2024 11:01:13 GMT
You can sort of argue Stockton West as an exception as well, but batman's basic point is still correct - the Red Wall is red again!
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jul 9, 2024 11:10:48 GMT
Stockton South was never a 'red wall' seat
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Post by batman on Jul 9, 2024 15:50:32 GMT
Every single seat in the Red Wall was regained, without exception. The ones that required the largest swings were Great Grimsby & Cleethorpes, Dudley and Bassetlaw; all were won. Ashfield wasn't thanks, you are quite right
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Post by batman on Jul 9, 2024 15:52:01 GMT
You can sort of argue Stockton West as an exception as well, but batman 's basic point is still correct - the Red Wall is red again! no the predecessor seat, Stockton South, was not part of the Red Wall. It was a marginal seat which had changed hands on several occasions, not a long-term Labour seat like the others. Hartlepool is generally regarded as a honorary member as it was lost to the Tories after 2019 in a by-election.
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European Lefty
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Post by European Lefty on Jul 9, 2024 17:37:12 GMT
That reminds me - I should got back to my red wall list and see if there's any pattern
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YL
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Post by YL on Jul 13, 2024 20:29:11 GMT
I have edited my Dewsbury & Batley profile to reflect what actually happened. Others will follow, assuming that's felt to be the right thing to do.
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nyx
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Post by nyx on Jul 13, 2024 21:38:17 GMT
I think the electoral landscape now make these profiles more difficult! There are several I wrote in the South West that I declared as safe Conservative seats which they lost last week. Given the number of marginals now, the number of safe seats is quite small- I’m not saying it’s likely but it’s certainly possible that Labour lose 200 seats next time, which didn’t use to be the norm. In most seats it’s obvious which are the strongest areas for each party , which I guess is one of the key focuses of these profiles but I wonder if this looks like a safe Labour/ Conservative seat is much more difficult to use as a summary now. It is noticeable that most of the ‘red wall seats’ were regained by Labour last week, but in almost all cases they look like marginals going forward not safe Lab seats. It’s certainly an interesting time- are we in the game where eg the Bournemouths are going to be better for Labour than Bolsover and Mansfield- I really wouldn’t like to say. I think it's possible to avoid using the word "safe". e.g. "Central Devon is a seat that has usually voted heavily for the Conservatives, but which was marginal in the landslide election of 2024"
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