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Post by ArmchairCritic on Jul 21, 2023 22:34:28 GMT
Do you know the most annoying bit of all this?
Nigel, who I know quite well, has stood down and his staff and office will get wrapped up. That will cost the tax payer money....as did the by-election.
The Labour candidate who is now elected, will have little choice but to set up a new constituency office and employ staff to work in it.....this will all cost the taxpayer money.
Some time in the next 15 months he will lose the seat and a new Conservative MP will have to set up an office.....etc etc etc
But I guess that is democracy
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jul 21, 2023 23:13:46 GMT
Do you know the most annoying bit of all this? Nigel, who I know quite well, has stood down and his staff and office will get wrapped up. That will cost the tax payer money....as did the by-election. The Labour candidate who is now elected, will have little choice but to set up a new constituency office and employ staff to work in it.....this will all cost the taxpayer money. Some time in the next 15 months he will lose the seat and a new Conservative MP will have to set up an office.....etc etc etc But I guess that is democracy Will he lose next time, assuming he is selected for the new Selby seat? |
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Post by Foggy on Jul 21, 2023 23:16:13 GMT
All the things listed in the previous post [EDIT: previous post but one!] that needlessly cost the taxpayer money were caused by Mr Evans resigning in a fit of pique because he'd attached himself to the cult of Johnson instead of being a Conservative for all seasons.
And the last of them might not even come to pass. Will be interesting to see which of the successor seats is considered a nailed-on Tory win (albeit by somebody whose biases are well known on here) and if Mather actually contests that constituency.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2023 23:19:07 GMT
Any credible speculation about how the different wards voted? Can obviously make some guesses, but with such a big swing i doubt UNS is too much use. Well, we can safely assume that Labour will have definitely won the Selby/Barlby wards and Sherburn, and reasonably certain that they will have carried Tadcaster. Riccall I suspect will have been close though this is not an area of Yorkshire I know hugely well |
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Post by ArmchairCritic on Jul 21, 2023 23:36:36 GMT
Do you know the most annoying bit of all this? Nigel, who I know quite well, has stood down and his staff and office will get wrapped up. That will cost the tax payer money....as did the by-election. The Labour candidate who is now elected, will have little choice but to set up a new constituency office and employ staff to work in it.....this will all cost the taxpayer money. Some time in the next 15 months he will lose the seat and a new Conservative MP will have to set up an office.....etc etc etc But I guess that is democracy Will he lose next time, assuming he is selected for the new Selby seat? Good point. I had forgotten about that |
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Post by nyx on Jul 21, 2023 23:49:16 GMT
Will he lose next time, assuming he is selected for the new Selby seat? I'd say he probably hangs on in the event of Labour getting a good majority nationally- 350+ seats. |
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Post by iain on Jul 21, 2023 23:49:18 GMT
Do you know the most annoying bit of all this? Nigel, who I know quite well, has stood down and his staff and office will get wrapped up. That will cost the tax payer money....as did the by-election. The Labour candidate who is now elected, will have little choice but to set up a new constituency office and employ staff to work in it.....this will all cost the taxpayer money. Some time in the next 15 months he will lose the seat and a new Conservative MP will have to set up an office.....etc etc etc But I guess that is democracy How are those grapes tasting? |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jul 22, 2023 0:49:10 GMT
Do you know the most annoying bit of all this? Nigel, who I know quite well, has stood down and his staff and office will get wrapped up. That will cost the tax payer money....as did the by-election. The Labour candidate who is now elected, will have little choice but to set up a new constituency office and employ staff to work in it.....this will all cost the taxpayer money. Some time in the next 15 months he will lose the seat and a new Conservative MP will have to set up an office.....etc etc etc But I guess that is democracy When we lost in 2015 Brereton took on our office and much of the equipment, stayed for about two years and only moved to fulfill a 2017 campaign pledge to have an office in the main shopping area of the constituency. |
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Post by Sg1 on Jul 22, 2023 1:07:22 GMT
I wonder what happened with the constituency office for Brecon and Radnorshire in 2019?
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Post by Foggy on Jul 22, 2023 2:04:55 GMT
I wonder what happened with the constituency office for Brecon and Radnorshire in 2019? Here, the local MP and Senedd member basically share an office, so I suspect Jane Dodds and Kirsty Williams had the same arrangement for those few months. |
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Post by YL on Jul 22, 2023 5:53:40 GMT
Any credible speculation about how the different wards voted? Can obviously make some guesses, but with such a big swing i doubt UNS is too much use. Well, we can safely assume that Labour will have definitely won the Selby/Barlby wards and Sherburn, and reasonably certain that they will have carried Tadcaster. Riccall I suspect will have been close though this is not an area of Yorkshire I know hugely well From an earlier post I think davidh has some box counts although of course he and his party may not want to share them. He did say the Green vote was very concentrated, presumably in Ouseburn where the candidate is a councillor. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2023 6:56:32 GMT
Labour increases in vote share:
Selby & Ainsty 2023 +21.4% (gain)
City of Chester 2022 +11.2%
West Lancashire 2022 +10.2%
Stretford & Urmston 2022 +9.3%
Wakefield 2022 +8.6% (gain)
Old Bexley & Sidcup 2021 +7.4%
Uxbridge & South Ruislip 2023 +6%
Birmingham, Erdington 2022 +5.2%
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Post by ArmchairCritic on Jul 22, 2023 6:59:43 GMT
Do you know the most annoying bit of all this? Nigel, who I know quite well, has stood down and his staff and office will get wrapped up. That will cost the tax payer money....as did the by-election. The Labour candidate who is now elected, will have little choice but to set up a new constituency office and employ staff to work in it.....this will all cost the taxpayer money. Some time in the next 15 months he will lose the seat and a new Conservative MP will have to set up an office.....etc etc etc But I guess that is democracy How are those grapes tasting? They aren't sour. I'm kind of glad the Tories lost because they need to learn a lesson....not that I think they will. |
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Post by ArmchairCritic on Jul 22, 2023 7:06:43 GMT
Do you know the most annoying bit of all this? Nigel, who I know quite well, has stood down and his staff and office will get wrapped up. That will cost the tax payer money....as did the by-election. The Labour candidate who is now elected, will have little choice but to set up a new constituency office and employ staff to work in it.....this will all cost the taxpayer money. Some time in the next 15 months he will lose the seat and a new Conservative MP will have to set up an office.....etc etc etc But I guess that is democracy When we lost in 2015 Brereton took on our office and much of the equipment, stayed for about two years and only moved to fulfill a 2017 campaign pledge to have an office in the main shopping area of the constituency. Well, that won't happen here because the building housing both his and Alec Shelbrokes office is in Tadcaster and is owned by the Conservative Association, as I recall. |
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Post by batman on Jul 22, 2023 7:22:51 GMT
All the things listed in the previous post [EDIT: previous post but one!] that needlessly cost the taxpayer money were caused by Mr Evans resigning in a fit of pique because he'd attached himself to the cult of Johnson instead of being a Conservative for all seasons. And the last of them might not even come to pass. Will be interesting to see which of the successor seats is considered a nailed-on Tory win (albeit by somebody whose biases are well known on here) and if Mather actually contests that constituency. he's Adams not Evans. Nigel Evans remains in Parliament. |
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Post by batman on Jul 22, 2023 7:24:12 GMT
Do you know the most annoying bit of all this? Nigel, who I know quite well, has stood down and his staff and office will get wrapped up. That will cost the tax payer money....as did the by-election. The Labour candidate who is now elected, will have little choice but to set up a new constituency office and employ staff to work in it.....this will all cost the taxpayer money. Some time in the next 15 months he will lose the seat and a new Conservative MP will have to set up an office.....etc etc etc But I guess that is democracy When we lost in 2015 Brereton took on our office and much of the equipment, stayed for about two years and only moved to fulfill a 2017 campaign pledge to have an office in the main shopping area of the constituency. Labour held Stoke on Trent South in 2015 & lost it to Jack Brereton in 2017. sorry Tim |
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Post by right on Jul 22, 2023 8:15:07 GMT
Obviously by-elections in usually unwinnable seats in the second half of a Parliamentary termthrow up very young career path politician MPs, it's how the selection process works and it's why Chloe Smith is retiring before 40
I do wonder what the red room would have made of a 25 year old very well connected kid with a blue rosette winning Hartlepool
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Post by timmullen1 on Jul 22, 2023 8:24:29 GMT
When we lost in 2015 Brereton took on our office and much of the equipment, stayed for about two years and only moved to fulfill a 2017 campaign pledge to have an office in the main shopping area of the constituency. Well, that won't happen here because the building housing both his and Alec Shelbrokes office is in Tadcaster and is owned by the Conservative Association, as I recall. Yes, Newcastle-under-Lyme’s always been the same, my college was directly opposite, so we’d often see Llin Golding popping in and out. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jul 22, 2023 8:25:13 GMT
When we lost in 2015 Brereton took on our office and much of the equipment, stayed for about two years and only moved to fulfill a 2017 campaign pledge to have an office in the main shopping area of the constituency. Labour held Stoke on Trent South in 2015 & lost it to Jack Brereton in 2017. sorry Tim Sorry, brain fart on my side. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 22, 2023 9:39:58 GMT
How are those grapes tasting? They aren't sour. I'm kind of glad the Tories lost because they need to learn a lesson....not that I think they will. Ah! You forget that they will always be comparing with their own experience of over 100-years of abject failure and ignominious absurdity, that leads many of them to have an outward sourness of extreme proportions! You have the prime exemplar of this as your Forum neighbour! |
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