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Post by Ben Walker on Oct 15, 2023 10:58:25 GMT
Why would people disapprove of having an Aldi in their town? Because they believe it lowers the tone. And all the extra traffic it brings. From all the people driving there... My Harrogate family felt exactly this about Tesco (Harrogate had only a petrol station Tesco Express for a good while which my mum refused to use). Now we're all poorer, it's their go-to
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Oct 15, 2023 11:25:38 GMT
There are more than a few people who shop in both Waitrose and Aldi. Lordy, having been in Waitrose, buying a loaf there would be enough to make me shop in Aldi as I couldn't afford anything else. Similarly up here in Booths country.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Oct 15, 2023 11:29:11 GMT
Because they believe it lowers the tone. And all the extra traffic it brings. From all the people driving there... My Harrogate family felt exactly this about Tesco (Harrogate had only a petrol station Tesco Express for a good while which my mum refused to use). Now we're all poorer, it's their go-to I feel like this tangent is collecting evidence for a study called something like, "Reduced to Clear: British Supermarkets and Attitudes of People Towards Class and Consumerism"
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Post by minionofmidas on Oct 15, 2023 11:33:50 GMT
Ooh, I love seeing the LDs get cross about having their own tactics thrown back at them losing sight of the big goal which is to serve up the ultimate banter outcome for my amusement which is the Tories coming third here. Do better everybody! what's charity housing?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 15, 2023 11:40:13 GMT
Lordy, having been in Waitrose, buying a loaf there would be enough to make me shop in Aldi as I couldn't afford anything else. Similarly up here in Booths country. Down here in central London, the price differential between Waitrose and anywhere else is often minimal. In fact sometimes Waitrose can be cheaper than Tesco.
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 15, 2023 11:41:42 GMT
My Harrogate family felt exactly this about Tesco (Harrogate had only a petrol station Tesco Express for a good while which my mum refused to use). Now we're all poorer, it's their go-to I feel like this tangent is collecting evidence for a study called something like, "Reduced to Clear: British Supermarkets and Attitudes of People Towards Class and Consumerism" "Buy one thread, get one on housing free".
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Post by grumpyguy on Oct 15, 2023 12:54:26 GMT
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Post by La Fontaine on Oct 15, 2023 15:47:44 GMT
Ooh, I love seeing the LDs get cross about having their own tactics thrown back at them losing sight of the big goal which is to serve up the ultimate banter outcome for my amusement which is the Tories coming third here. Do better everybody! what's charity housing? Usually meant alms houses in my experience. Most housing associations are registered charities, but regulated by Homes England rather than the Charity Commission.
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Post by Wisconsin on Oct 15, 2023 17:10:19 GMT
Who actually decides whether and where new GP practices are built? How are they funded?
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Post by gwynthegriff on Oct 15, 2023 17:15:13 GMT
Who actually decides whether and where new GP practices are built? How are they funded? Clinical Commissioning Groups I assume? (And reluctantly and sparingly I suspect.) Perhaps Crimson King can advise?
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Post by gwynthegriff on Oct 15, 2023 17:18:14 GMT
There are more than a few people who shop in both Waitrose and Aldi. Lordy, having been in Waitrose, buying a loaf there would be enough to make me shop in Aldi as I couldn't afford anything else. A loaf but no fishes?
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Post by graham on Oct 15, 2023 17:58:52 GMT
I see the LDs have now sent out a leaflet predicting victory on Thursday despite Betfair having the party on 5.2 implying a 19% chance of winning.
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Post by carolus on Oct 15, 2023 18:11:51 GMT
I see the LDs have now sent out a leaflet predicting victory on Thursday despite Betfair having the party on 5.2 implying a 19% chance of winning. The betting markets are of course a very long way from infallibility.
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 15, 2023 18:25:41 GMT
I see the LDs have now sent out a leaflet predicting victory on Thursday despite Betfair having the party on 5.2 implying a 19% chance of winning. The betting markets are of course a very long way from infallibility. Of course not. They aren't meant to be infallible.
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Post by carolus on Oct 15, 2023 18:41:20 GMT
The betting markets are of course a very long way from infallibility. Of course not. They aren't meant to be infallible. Well, quite. Although the exchange model doesn't have quite the same issue in that regard as the bookmaker one - but even then, I don't have any belief the exchange markets are particularly efficient.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Oct 15, 2023 21:15:17 GMT
I see the LDs have now sent out a leaflet predicting victory on Thursday despite Betfair having the party on 5.2 implying a 19% chance of winning. What exactly does said leaflet say?
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Oct 16, 2023 3:31:08 GMT
I assume it’s this one:
Worth remembering Labour’s similar graphs in North Shropshire
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Post by Crimson King on Oct 16, 2023 7:44:28 GMT
Who actually decides whether and where new GP practices are built? How are they funded? Clinical Commissioning Groups I assume? (And reluctantly and sparingly I suspect.) Perhaps Crimson King can advise? Ha! CCGs are so last decade. I think it’s Integrated Care Boards now - at least it was when I went to bed last night. (one possibly relevant point is that they have a bigger footprint eg the old Bradford CCG area is now within the West Yorkshire ICB. To answer the question though it is (as you might imagine) a bit complicated and depends on the situation. It’s also worth remembering that no one builds GP practices, they build premises that GP practices could work in. The ICB will likely have a view, even a plan, as to where these should be built, but it needs doctors to want to go and base themselves there. Often the demand will come from doctors who want to replace old, not fit for purpose premeses. In the situation where there is a new town then not only does someone have to put up the building (which could be a straightforward commercial decision to build and then rent out, or more likely would have some state involvement but still requires the tenants to provide income to justify the investment) but also there needs to be doctors and others wanting to move in. This is less simple if the practices are currently happy in reasonable premises at some distance from the new site
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Post by woollyliberal on Oct 16, 2023 8:59:15 GMT
I assume it’s this one: Worth remembering Labour’s similar graphs in North Shropshire Twitter has several examples of Labour activists publishing this photo, and Lib Dem activists publishing a photo of a Labour leaflet doing the same thing. There is a sub set of Labour who thinks things are only wrong when *other* parties do it.
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Post by jamesdoyle on Oct 16, 2023 8:59:41 GMT
I see that here, and elsewhere, we have reached a stage of Labour and the LibDems sniping at each other over who had the 'right' to be the challenger here, who has said what in their election materials, and whether the voting system is fair. So I infer that neither side is confident of winning (although perhaps both are confident of beating the Cons? And that would be great of course).
One or both sides are going to be disappointed by Friday morning. So the question I'd ask as an outsider whose optimal outcome is the Cons getting as widely hammered as possible is, 'What are you going to do about it?' Whether you win, lose to the others (LD/Lab), or let the Cons slip through the middle, what are you going to do to minimise the chances of this happening again, perhaps in many seats?
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