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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2023 17:38:55 GMT
Although Johnson was not the most assiduous constituency MP known to mankind, his negligence was on nothing like the scale shown by Nadine Dorries. I think being Prime Minister is a more acceptable reason for neglecting constituents than being a drama queen.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 22, 2023 23:08:01 GMT
A friend was a member of the Mid Bedfordshire Conservative Association when Dorries was chosen and said that the reason they stuck by her when she was widely ridiculed in her first Parliamentary term was that she was very attentive to constituency concerns. She would turn up to all the village fetes, run surgeries there, intervene with the councils or government to support residents if they had some grievance. Hence they were confident that she would retain local support and improve her vote despite her controversial national profile. (And indeed she did - but things seem to have turned against her after 2017)
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Aug 23, 2023 15:32:07 GMT
"Dorries claims she is 'working daily' on behalf of her constituents as calls for her resignation continue
Nadine Dorries has said she is “working daily” on behalf of her constituents. She made the comment in a statement she released to the News Agents podcast, in response to repeated claims, including from within her own party, that she should resign because she is neglecting her duty as an MP.
The controversy has been rumbling on for weeks now, and generally Dorries has not been responding to complaints about her record, or questions from the media. She has not addressed the issue in her Daily Mail column and, even though at one point she was a hyper-active user of Twitter, her recent activity on the platform has been very limited, and more focused on hedgehogs.
But Dorries told the News Agents she has not given up on her work as an MP. In the statement she said:
'Myself and my team of four caseworkers are working daily with constituents. I understand that political opponents, such as Labour-run Flitwick town council, are choosing the summer and news hungry outlets in the summer recess to be noticed. However we are just getting on with the work.'"
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Post by batman on Aug 23, 2023 15:40:54 GMT
If Labour is in control of Flitwick town council it might be partly because of her constituency neglect.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 23, 2023 15:52:34 GMT
Fact Check: Two out of the current 15 Flitwick town councillors declare membership of the Labour Party (there's also one Liberal Democrat), but they were all elected as Independent candidates. That's not what makes a council "Labour-run".
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Post by YL on Aug 23, 2023 15:53:44 GMT
May 2023 Flitwick TC, East 3 Independents for Flitwick, 1 Continuing to Champion the Flitwick Community, 2 no description (all unopposed) Flitwick TC, West 6 Independents for Flitwick, 1 Independent of Any Political Party, 1 For Flitwick's People and Environment (all unopposed) Maybe "Independents for Flitwick" is a Labour front group but I doubt it.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Aug 23, 2023 16:33:47 GMT
Fact Check: Two out of the current 15 Flitwick town councillors declare membership of the Labour Party (there's also one Liberal Democrat), but they were all elected as Independent candidates. That's not what makes a council "Labour-run". Dorries talks nonsense. Hold the front page.
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Post by manchesterman on Aug 23, 2023 20:22:43 GMT
Fact Check: Two out of the current 15 Flitwick town councillors declare membership of the Labour Party (there's also one Liberal Democrat), but they were all elected as Independent candidates. That's not what makes a council "Labour-run". ah but dont forget we live in the time of alternative facts
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Post by ricmk on Aug 23, 2023 20:56:29 GMT
Labour-run Caroline Nokes and Damien Green have also had enough of her antics.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 23, 2023 22:43:50 GMT
Labour-run Caroline Nokes and Damien Green have also had enough of her antics. I can easily believe that Caroline Nokes is 'Labour-run'
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2023 6:24:08 GMT
Mid Beds Tories might hope voters think Labour run Flitwick and schizophrenic ‘tactical’ voting could lead to a Tory hold.
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Aug 24, 2023 17:55:54 GMT
The more I have think about this the more I come to the conclusion that almost everyone in this thread is calling this badly wrong. The vast majority of you have concluded that Dorries performance as an MP is unacceptable but you then some how conclude that the Mid Bedfordshire electorate are the victims. I contend that they are the real villains of the piece for electing her in the first place and then repeatedly re-electing her. Perhaps we need a system where constituencies that elect an absolute dud as their MP are punished by being denied representation in the following parliament.
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Post by johnloony on Aug 24, 2023 18:16:41 GMT
The more I have think about this the more I come to the conclusion that almost everyone in this thread is calling this badly wrong. The vast majority of you have concluded that Dorries performance as an MP is unacceptable but you then some how conclude that the Mid Bedfordshire electorate are the victims. I contend that they are the real villains of the piece for electing her in the first place and then repeatedly re-electing her. Perhaps we need a system where constituencies that elect an absolute dud as their MP are punished by being denied representation in the following parliament. So you're saying that the system we "need" is the system we already have?
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Aug 24, 2023 18:36:52 GMT
The more I have think about this the more I come to the conclusion that almost everyone in this thread is calling this badly wrong. The vast majority of you have concluded that Dorries performance as an MP is unacceptable but you then some how conclude that the Mid Bedfordshire electorate are the victims. I contend that they are the real villains of the piece for electing her in the first place and then repeatedly re-electing her. Perhaps we need a system where constituencies that elect an absolute dud as their MP are punished by being denied representation in the following parliament. So you're saying that the system we "need" is the system we already have? Perhaps I worded this badly but what I meant was for a constituency to be denied the opportunity to elect an MP at the election proceeding the one where they elected a dud.
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Post by batman on Aug 24, 2023 19:12:25 GMT
As Tom Swain MP (Lab, NE Derbyshire) once said "there's a lot of bleedin' idiots in the country, and they deserve some representation". He was right. Of course we don't deny the franchise to the electors of Mid Beds or anywhere else that elects an MP we generally think is a dud. After all, many thousands of voters did not vote for the dud concerned.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 24, 2023 19:58:23 GMT
I've heard that line more often attributed to Bill Stones, who was MP for Consett 1955-66.
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Post by batman on Aug 24, 2023 20:16:17 GMT
Quite possible. My source was Simon Hoggart in Punch but of course he could have got it wrong, he did sometimes.
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Post by michaelarden on Aug 24, 2023 21:12:14 GMT
Assuming: 1. That she actually intends to resign 2. That being so, that she is dragging this out to seriously disadvantage the Tory candidate 3. That she wishes to maximise harm to Sunak When would be her optimum time actually to resign? Sunak’s conference speech on 4 October perhaps? Could it be that Sunak has done a deal with her? He seems to have squashed the Borisites' rebellion after that weekend when we thought there could be dozens of resignations. All she wants is a peerage. Sunak probably knows he's going to be an ex Prime Minister next year so has he offered her ermine in his resignation honours on the basis she carries on until the next election?
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Post by eastmidlandsright on Aug 24, 2023 21:53:26 GMT
As Tom Swain MP (Lab, NE Derbyshire) once said "there's a lot of bleedin' idiots in the country, and they deserve some representation". My proposal would not deny them representation permanently and it would hopefully help them in the long run by encouraging them to make a more discerning choice.
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Aug 24, 2023 22:22:27 GMT
Assuming: 1. That she actually intends to resign 2. That being so, that she is dragging this out to seriously disadvantage the Tory candidate 3. That she wishes to maximise harm to Sunak When would be her optimum time actually to resign? Sunak’s conference speech on 4 October perhaps? Could it be that Sunak has done a deal with her? He seems to have squashed the Borisites' rebellion after that weekend when we thought there could be dozens of resignations. All she wants is a peerage. Sunak probably knows he's going to be an ex Prime Minister next year so has he offered her ermine in his resignation honours on the basis she carries on until the next election? I'm not convinced that he's that bright. Though perhaps some kind of deal has been done with the Whips office? She's not attending every sitting ready to spread shit like Andrew Brogden. Maybe she's agreed to just stay away and only piss inside the tent from a safe distance?
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