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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Oct 7, 2023 5:47:46 GMT
It doesn't help the SNP that their leadership contest went 52-48 (where have I seen that number before) in favour of Humza Yousaf. Another way this seat is iconic is that it was the first SNP by-election win in the modern era, when Winnie Ewing won Hamilton in 1967. Yes I know most of this seat is Rutherglen ofc, but much of it isn't that seat and it does cover part of Winning Ewing's old Hamilton seat. It'd be good to have the LDs back as third party at Westminster. It's been too long. The Tories can't use the SNP phalanx to attack Labour. (a) It’s the proportion of the electorate in the new Streatham & Croydon North constituency: Streatham 39,464 (51.892%) Croydon North 36,586 (48.108%) which (accurate to three decimal places) are the same percentages as the result of the EU referendum in 2016. (b) I think it would be good to have the Green Party as the third largest party in the House of Commons. They could win the 4 seats they seem to be targeting. We could allow them to be in joint third place with Plaid Cymru, also on 4 seats. The incorrect parties like the SNP and Lib Dems should be reduced to 3 or fewer. Northern Ireland constituencies can start electing the normal proper parties (Conservative and Labour) as well. Given the paralysis in NI at the moment it might not be a bad thing for GB parties to stand and get elected! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 5:53:04 GMT
(a) It’s the proportion of the electorate in the new Streatham & Croydon North constituency: Streatham 39,464 (51.892%) Croydon North 36,586 (48.108%) which (accurate to three decimal places) are the same percentages as the result of the EU referendum in 2016. (b) I think it would be good to have the Green Party as the third largest party in the House of Commons. They could win the 4 seats they seem to be targeting. We could allow them to be in joint third place with Plaid Cymru, also on 4 seats. The incorrect parties like the SNP and Lib Dems should be reduced to 3 or fewer. Northern Ireland constituencies can start electing the normal proper parties (Conservative and Labour) as well. Given the paralysis in NI at the moment it might not be a bad thing for GB parties to stand and get elected! I agree. If they want to be part of the UK, they should have UK-wide parties to vote for. I'd back the Alliance party if I lived there. |
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Post by YL on Oct 7, 2023 6:39:57 GMT
(a) It’s the proportion of the electorate in the new Streatham & Croydon North constituency: Streatham 39,464 (51.892%) Croydon North 36,586 (48.108%) which (accurate to three decimal places) are the same percentages as the result of the EU referendum in 2016. (b) I think it would be good to have the Green Party as the third largest party in the House of Commons. They could win the 4 seats they seem to be targeting. We could allow them to be in joint third place with Plaid Cymru, also on 4 seats. The incorrect parties like the SNP and Lib Dems should be reduced to 3 or fewer. Northern Ireland constituencies can start electing the normal proper parties (Conservative and Labour) as well. Given the paralysis in NI at the moment it might not be a bad thing for GB parties to stand and get elected! They can stand if they like; the Tories sometimes even do. They will not get elected. |
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Post by dundas on Oct 7, 2023 8:11:22 GMT
It doesn't help the SNP that their leadership contest went 52-48 (where have I seen that number before) in favour of Humza Yousaf. Another way this seat is iconic is that it was the first SNP by-election win in the modern era, when Winnie Ewing won Hamilton in 1967. Yes I know most of this seat is Rutherglen ofc, but much of it isn't that seat and it does cover part of Winning Ewing's old Hamilton seat. It'd be good to have the LDs back as third party at Westminster. It's been too long. The Tories can't use the SNP phalanx to attack Labour. (a) It’s the proportion of the electorate in the new Streatham & Croydon North constituency: Streatham 39,464 (51.892%) Croydon North 36,586 (48.108%) which (accurate to three decimal places) are the same percentages as the result of the EU referendum in 2016. (b) I think it would be good to have the Green Party as the third largest party in the House of Commons. They could win the 4 seats they seem to be targeting. We could allow them to be in joint third place with Plaid Cymru, also on 4 seats. The incorrect parties like the SNP and Lib Dems should be reduced to 3 or fewer. Northern Ireland constituencies can start electing the normal proper parties (Conservative and Labour) as well. Do you pronounce it Stret-em or Saint Reef-em? |
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Post by dundas on Oct 7, 2023 8:47:45 GMT
ok. like it. as many filters as you like. personal application. english fluency. politics test. economics test. logic test. I'm a firm believer in one man, one vote. Lord Vetinari is the man and he has the vote! The man behind Just Stop Oil and the Blade Runners, no doubt. |
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Post by greenhert on Oct 7, 2023 9:44:22 GMT
Given the paralysis in NI at the moment it might not be a bad thing for GB parties to stand and get elected! I agree. If they want to be part of the UK, they should have UK-wide parties to vote for. I'd back the Alliance party if I lived there. The Alliance Party will likely end up having a record result in next year's general election, especially given the fact they jumped from 5th place to 3rd in last year's Assembly election and in this year's Northern Irish council elections, only narrowly missing out on pole position in two councils (Ards & North Down and Lisburn & Castlereagh). |
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 7, 2023 10:58:53 GMT
It doesn't help the SNP that their leadership contest went 52-48 (where have I seen that number before) in favour of Humza Yousaf. Another way this seat is iconic is that it was the first SNP by-election win in the modern era, when Winnie Ewing won Hamilton in 1967. Yes I know most of this seat is Rutherglen ofc, but much of it isn't that seat and it does cover part of Winning Ewing's old Hamilton seat. It'd be good to have the LDs back as third party at Westminster. It's been too long. The Tories can't use the SNP phalanx to attack Labour. The old Rutherglen saw a fairly iconic byelection in its own right, when in the spring of 1964 Gregor Mackenzie gained it for Labour after 13 years of Tory wins - their candidate then (in a straight fight, a stark contrast to this week) was the young Iain Sproat. |
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Post by johnloony on Oct 7, 2023 12:35:19 GMT
(a) It’s the proportion of the electorate in the new Streatham & Croydon North constituency: Streatham 39,464 (51.892%) Croydon North 36,586 (48.108%) which (accurate to three decimal places) are the same percentages as the result of the EU referendum in 2016. (b) I think it would be good to have the Green Party as the third largest party in the House of Commons. They could win the 4 seats they seem to be targeting. We could allow them to be in joint third place with Plaid Cymru, also on 4 seats. The incorrect parties like the SNP and Lib Dems should be reduced to 3 or fewer. Northern Ireland constituencies can start electing the normal proper parties (Conservative and Labour) as well. Do you pronounce it Stret-em or Saint Reef-em? Saint Ree-tham |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 9, 2023 9:28:09 GMT
Given the paralysis in NI at the moment it might not be a bad thing for GB parties to stand and get elected! I agree. If they want to be part of the UK, they should have UK-wide parties to vote for. I'd back the Alliance party if I lived there. Quite famously, a decent chunk of the population here do not want to be part of the UK; others are deeply ambivalent about it; and those who are loudest about wanting to be part of the UK tend to hold opinions that are decidedly minority views amongst GB-wide parties. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Oct 16, 2023 10:36:15 GMT
Given the paralysis in NI at the moment it might not be a bad thing for GB parties to stand and get elected! They can stand if they like; the Tories sometimes even do. They will not get elected. solve this 'UK wide parties' canard by forcing DUP,UUP, APNI, SF and SDLP to stand in at least two thirds of British constituencies |
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Post by timrollpickering on Oct 16, 2023 11:46:48 GMT
You'd have to do the same to the SNP and Plaid.
And the Scottish Greens might both be forced to reassess their relations with the English & Welsh Greens. Maybe the NI Greens as well but I don't know where they stand on all this.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 16, 2023 11:55:00 GMT
You'd have to do the same to the SNP and Plaid. And the Scottish Greens might both be forced to reassess their relations with the English & Welsh Greens. Maybe the NI Greens as well but I don't know where they stand on all this. The NI Greens are technically a regional party of the Irish Greens, although in practice I'm not sure how much oversight they actually have from them. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Oct 16, 2023 12:37:01 GMT
You'd have to do the same to the SNP and Plaid. And the Scottish Greens might both be forced to reassess their relations with the English & Welsh Greens. Maybe the NI Greens as well but I don't know where they stand on all this. The NI Greens are technically a regional party of the Irish Greens, although in practice I'm not sure how much oversight they actually have from them. ISTR that was mainly so they could have both North-South and East-West links. Presumably they would also be part of a federal UK Green Party if one existed. |
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Post by minionofmidas on Oct 16, 2023 13:54:36 GMT
You'd have to do the same to the SNP and Plaid. No because national parties stand in those seats already. The idea was to have "national parties stand in NI" by having the parties that already stand and are popular there technically be "national parties". |
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Post by YL on Oct 16, 2023 14:03:09 GMT
You'd have to do the same to the SNP and Plaid. No because national parties stand in those seats already. The idea was to have "national parties stand in NI" by having the parties that already stand and are popular there technically be "national parties". SF already are for their preferred definition of “national”. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 16, 2023 14:53:36 GMT
And the SDLP have a loose affiliation to Fianna Fail which is nevertheless stronger than any affiliation they have to the UK Labour Party.
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Post by minionofmidas on Oct 16, 2023 15:11:36 GMT
Um, guys? Guys? Hello? I know that. The 'problem' I was proposing to 'fix' in a novel way is not actually a problem.
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Post by YL on Oct 16, 2023 16:36:20 GMT
Um, guys? Guys? Hello? I know that. The 'problem' I was proposing to 'fix' in a novel way is not actually a problem. I know that you know that. |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Oct 16, 2023 20:28:41 GMT
And the SDLP have a loose affiliation to Fianna Fail which is nevertheless stronger than any affiliation they have to the UK Labour Party. Yet Fianna Fail and APNI are both in the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe. |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Oct 16, 2023 20:36:58 GMT
I see there is not much interest in Rangers and Celtic joining the English Premier League. Some very hard questions need to be answered for that to happen. Question 1 - what happens if one of the two Glasgow teams ends up in a relegation spot? a) nothing - they stay up no matter how crap they are; b) they drop into the English Championship; or c) they get replaced by St. Mirren. Question 2 - how are Scotland's entrants in the European competitions to be determined? Answers on a postcard. |
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