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Post by stb12 on Aug 2, 2023 11:12:42 GMT
I'm sure she hasn't minded the salary for the last four years tbf. She was also the MP from 2015-17 as well
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Post by minionofmidas on Aug 2, 2023 11:52:15 GMT
my dear fellow, that does seem a soupcon harsh. It's perfectly valid to say that you don't approve of the process whereby the by-election happens, but to imply that those of us who take an interest in the resultant by-election are in some way inherently indecent is going a little far, surely. And doing it on a forum that's dedicated to psephology is simply rude. Just ignore that little over-the-top rhetorical flourish of his like any decent person would, will you.
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Post by batman on Aug 2, 2023 12:04:56 GMT
shan't
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Aug 2, 2023 12:17:09 GMT
John Rentoul isn't a fan either
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Post by afleitch on Aug 2, 2023 12:36:36 GMT
The 'October Week' schools break starts 16th October. A week I think all parties want to avoid, so I expect a 5th or 12th poll.
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Post by yellowperil on Aug 2, 2023 12:51:21 GMT
And doing it on a forum that's dedicated to psephology is simply rude. Just ignore that little over-the-top rhetorical flourish of his like any decent person would, will you. Indeed. And just to be safe, maybe best to ignore him altogether.
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Post by jimboo2017 on Aug 2, 2023 12:57:30 GMT
they're more likely to nominate Alex Salmond.......... Salmond would be mad to stand, oh yea
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Post by batman on Aug 2, 2023 13:10:16 GMT
If John Rentoul thinks recall petitions are a bad idea, I withdraw any previous caveats I might have had against them.
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Post by stb12 on Aug 2, 2023 13:11:36 GMT
Was the introduction of recall not an idea of Zac Goldsmith’s originally?
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Post by yellowperil on Aug 2, 2023 13:17:58 GMT
Was the introduction of recall not an idea of Zac Goldsmith’s originally? .. it gets worse, doesn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2023 13:28:06 GMT
If John Rentoul thinks recall petitions are a bad idea, I withdraw any previous caveats I might have had against them. *Rent-a-tool
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Aug 2, 2023 13:38:04 GMT
Nothing has come up on a Google search except Zak being quoted as saying he didn't think the Recall Act went far enough.
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Aug 2, 2023 14:45:54 GMT
I think this is the first ever petition that I wouldn’t have signed had I lived in the area - the offence just not serious enough to warrant a by-election for me, and I‘ll take a tiny smidgeon of satisfaction from the turnout being less than expected. Labour really should walk this. I hope they do. I don't approve of the entire process and would repeal it if I could. A candidate is elected and serves, for better for worse, until they die or give up the seat by the present arcane process; until the next GE when they may be removed at the proper process and at the proper time. These are nasty showy grandstanding events designed to satisfy the nastiest attitudes of the nastiest people in politics. It is all 'SO' 21stC and chav and repellent. Enjoy your squalid by-election which I shall shun and ignore like any decent person should. This reminds us of the power of first past the post, a simple way to get rid of individual candidates and governments
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Aug 2, 2023 15:07:54 GMT
If John Rentoul thinks recall petitions are a bad idea, I withdraw any previous caveats I might have had against them.
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Post by Max on Aug 2, 2023 15:42:40 GMT
Nothing has come up on a Google search except Zak being quoted as saying he didn't think the Recall Act went far enough. He brought forward a number of proposals as Private Member's Bills. The Coalition subsequently passed the legislation that we know today. bills.parliament.uk/bills/1495
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Post by AdminSTB on Aug 2, 2023 16:15:17 GMT
That proved to be rather a good omen for the Labour party. I see that the Conservative candidate at that by-election was the hapless Iain Sproat and his agent was one F.W.S Craig Sproat got around, didn't he? I always mix him up with Gerry Malone I had to think about what Sproat looked like, and came up with a mental image of Malone. When I Googled, I realised that Sproat died years ago.
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Post by batman on Aug 2, 2023 16:37:30 GMT
he was quite a good cricket writer in fact
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Post by stb12 on Aug 2, 2023 16:46:45 GMT
A link between them being that Malone held the seat Sproat left for a 'safe' one
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Post by batman on Aug 2, 2023 17:04:45 GMT
....which he then of course lost. He then lost another should-have-been-safe seat after a period as an actual MP
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Aug 2, 2023 17:25:56 GMT
....which he then of course lost. He then lost another should-have-been-safe seat after a period as an actual MP At the same time as Sproat lost his final 'safe' berth
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