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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2023 6:36:33 GMT
Looks about right. Labour may even win over 50% in R&HW
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Post by Chris from Brum on Aug 2, 2023 6:46:18 GMT
That proved to be rather a good omen for the Labour party. I see that the Conservative candidate at that by-election was the hapless Iain Sproat and his agent was one F.W.S Craig Sproat got around, didn't he? I always mix him up with Gerry Malone "Deep" Sproat to Private Eye. |
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Post by stb12 on Aug 2, 2023 7:37:38 GMT
No surprise I’m sure but Margaret Ferrier confirmed that she won’t stand in the by-election
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Post by batman on Aug 2, 2023 7:58:13 GMT
A Labour gain here would be their first at a Scottish Westminster by-election in a partisan contest since Rutherglen in 1964. Glasgow North East in 2009 was a gain from Speaker. Until you posted that, I wasn't even aware that there had been a Rutherglen by-election in 1964. I just assumed that Labour had gained the seat in the general election (I did know Rutherglen had been Conservative before 1964). Thanks! |
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Post by batman on Aug 2, 2023 8:00:56 GMT
I think this is the first ever petition that I wouldn’t have signed had I lived in the area - the offence just not serious enough to warrant a by-election for me, and I‘ll take a tiny smidgeon of satisfaction from the turnout being less than expected. Labour really should walk this. I hope they do. I don't approve of the entire process and would repeal it if I could. A candidate is elected and serves, for better for worse, until they die or give up the seat by the present arcane process; until the next GE when they may be removed at the proper process and at the proper time. These are nasty showy grandstanding events designed to satisfy the nastiest attitudes of the nastiest people in politics. It is all 'SO' 21stC and chav and repellent. Enjoy your squalid by-election which I shall shun and ignore like any decent person should. my dear fellow, that does seem a soupcon harsh. It's perfectly valid to say that you don't approve of the process whereby the by-election happens, but to imply that those of us who take an interest in the resultant by-election are in some way inherently indecent is going a little far, surely. |
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Post by andrewp on Aug 2, 2023 8:13:16 GMT
I think this is the first ever petition that I wouldn’t have signed had I lived in the area - the offence just not serious enough to warrant a by-election for me, and I‘ll take a tiny smidgeon of satisfaction from the turnout being less than expected. Labour really should walk this. I hope they do. I don’t think I would have signed any of them. I don’t really agree with the process. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2023 8:35:21 GMT
I think this is the first ever petition that I wouldn’t have signed had I lived in the area - the offence just not serious enough to warrant a by-election for me, and I‘ll take a tiny smidgeon of satisfaction from the turnout being less than expected. Labour really should walk this. I hope they do. I don't approve of the entire process and would repeal it if I could. A candidate is elected and serves, for better for worse, until they die or give up the seat by the present arcane process; until the next GE when they may be removed at the proper process and at the proper time. These are nasty showy grandstanding events designed to satisfy the nastiest attitudes of the nastiest people in politics. It is all 'SO' 21stC and chav and repellent. Enjoy your squalid by-election which I shall shun and ignore like any decent person should. No doubt posting every ten minutes to tell us so from now until the declaration |
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Post by jakegb on Aug 2, 2023 8:35:56 GMT
Would be interested to see whether Alba will put their names forwards - that could further cause challenges for the SNP.
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Post by carlton43 on Aug 2, 2023 9:07:31 GMT
I don't approve of the entire process and would repeal it if I could. A candidate is elected and serves, for better for worse, until they die or give up the seat by the present arcane process; until the next GE when they may be removed at the proper process and at the proper time. These are nasty showy grandstanding events designed to satisfy the nastiest attitudes of the nastiest people in politics. It is all 'SO' 21stC and chav and repellent. Enjoy your squalid by-election which I shall shun and ignore like any decent person should. my dear fellow, that does seem a soupcon harsh. It's perfectly valid to say that you don't approve of the process whereby the by-election happens, but to imply that those of us who take an interest in the resultant by-election are in some way inherently indecent is going a little far, surely. Yes it is. Justified criticism. Heat of the moment. I apologise to all. It does still appear to me to speak to a bad part of the political mind but I do apologise. |
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Post by carlton43 on Aug 2, 2023 9:09:37 GMT
I don't approve of the entire process and would repeal it if I could. A candidate is elected and serves, for better for worse, until they die or give up the seat by the present arcane process; until the next GE when they may be removed at the proper process and at the proper time. These are nasty showy grandstanding events designed to satisfy the nastiest attitudes of the nastiest people in politics. It is all 'SO' 21stC and chav and repellent. Enjoy your squalid by-election which I shall shun and ignore like any decent person should. No doubt posting every ten minutes to tell us so from now until the declaration I doubt it. But it may seem like it to some of you. I hope this will be my last post on the subject. |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Aug 2, 2023 9:20:38 GMT
Would be interested to see whether Alba will put their names forwards - that could further cause challenges for the SNP. Would they nominate Margaret Ferrier? |
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Post by doktorb🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ on Aug 2, 2023 9:21:31 GMT
No surprise I’m sure but Margaret Ferrier confirmed that she won’t stand in the by-election Should have read this first! |
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Post by batman on Aug 2, 2023 9:32:38 GMT
they're more likely to nominate Alex Salmond..........
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Post by Sg1 on Aug 2, 2023 9:41:01 GMT
Would be interested to see whether Alba will put their names forwards - that could further cause challenges for the SNP. Could it? Do they have any tangible support in the electorate? It seems to me that they're like Reform is to the Conservatives. Ought to be a threat, but don't seem to do anything in by elections. |
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Post by jakegb on Aug 2, 2023 9:42:09 GMT
To really stir the pot, could Salmond put his name in the hat + run a populist, Scotland first campaign? Similar perhaps to Galloway in Batley and Spen.
Not a part of the country he is associated with, admittedly; but such a campaign could generate some publicity for Alba (who after all will be defending a couple of seats at the next general election).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2023 10:06:30 GMT
Would be interested to see whether Alba will put their names forwards - that could further cause challenges for the SNP. Would they nominate Margaret Ferrier? She's not standing again. I'm sure she'll Ruther day she won in the first place. |
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 2, 2023 10:40:58 GMT
I'm sure she hasn't minded the salary for the last four years tbf.
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Post by batman on Aug 2, 2023 10:45:36 GMT
To really stir the pot, could Salmond put his name in the hat + run a populist, Scotland first campaign? Similar perhaps to Galloway in Batley and Spen. Not a part of the country he is associated with, admittedly; but such a campaign could generate some publicity for Alba (who after all will be defending a couple of seats at the next general election). I'm not convinced they will actually put their names forward |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2023 10:59:15 GMT
Comedy candidate list would be Salmons for Alba and Galloway on his "populist-left-unionist" thing he tried at the last Holyrood election
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Post by greenchristian on Aug 2, 2023 11:00:22 GMT
I don't approve of the entire process and would repeal it if I could. A candidate is elected and serves, for better for worse, until they die or give up the seat by the present arcane process; until the next GE when they may be removed at the proper process and at the proper time. These are nasty showy grandstanding events designed to satisfy the nastiest attitudes of the nastiest people in politics. It is all 'SO' 21stC and chav and repellent. Enjoy your squalid by-election which I shall shun and ignore like any decent person should. my dear fellow, that does seem a soupcon harsh. It's perfectly valid to say that you don't approve of the process whereby the by-election happens, but to imply that those of us who take an interest in the resultant by-election are in some way inherently indecent is going a little far, surely. And doing it on a forum that's dedicated to psephology is simply rude. |
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