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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Dec 23, 2022 9:11:02 GMT
I have voted for the third option, which I regard as close to a no, but leaving the door open a little bit if there are non-aligned people out there who want it and think they could make it work. I am doubtful on both counts. I am not even that keen on the existing party rooms, and use the yellow room pretty sparingly. This is not a sentiment I share. I value the Blue Room and would oppose either it's abolition or an attempt to open it up to non-right of centre people. There are areas around philosophy and contemporary politics that benefit from not having sarky partisan comments from other parties or those posters who are hysterical at even the slightest conservative opinion. |
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Post by batman on Dec 23, 2022 9:16:04 GMT
I won't vote in this poll, it's none of my business whether there's a non-aligned room or not.
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Post by r34t on Dec 23, 2022 9:16:20 GMT
I have voted for the third option, which I regard as close to a no, but leaving the door open a little bit if there are non-aligned people out there who want it and think they could make it work. I am doubtful on both counts. I am not even that keen on the existing party rooms, and use the yellow room pretty sparingly. This is not a sentiment I share. I value the Blue Room and would oppose either it's abolition or a n attempt to open it up to non-right of centre people. There are areas around philosophy and contemporary politics that benefit from not having sarky partisan comments from other parties or those posters who are hysterical at even the slightest conservative opinion. But think of the potential income from the popcorn & deckchair franchise (this would of course apply if any political room was opened up to all  ) More seriously, there is a room open to all, it's called 'Vote UK Forum'. |
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Dec 23, 2022 10:11:08 GMT
I have considered setting up a Non Aligned Room. This has occurred to me a few times in the past. At present, people are only allocated to a room on request. One has looser rules than the others. It might be beneficial to add people who are specifically non aligned to their own discussion space. My concerns are that this might be so big that is an alternative to the main forum, or that it might be moribund. Please vote and offer thoughts. As long as it is correctly spelled. It's non-aligned not non aligned. Non is not a word (in English). Has carlton43 hacked your account? |
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Post by andrewp on Dec 23, 2022 10:17:30 GMT
I have voted for the third option, which I regard as close to a no, but leaving the door open a little bit if there are non-aligned people out there who want it and think they could make it work. I am doubtful on both counts. I am not even that keen on the existing party rooms, and use the yellow room pretty sparingly. This is not a sentiment I share. I value the Blue Room and would oppose either it's abolition or an attempt to open it up to non-right of centre people. There are areas around philosophy and contemporary politics that benefit from not having sarky partisan comments from other parties or those posters who are hysterical at even the slightest conservative opinion. For those of us who aren’t in a room so don’t know what we are missing, what sort of conversation goes on in the party rooms? Without knowing that, it’s difficult to know if existing ones are needed/ a new one is needed? |
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Post by r34t on Dec 23, 2022 10:21:09 GMT
This is not a sentiment I share. I value the Blue Room and would oppose either it's abolition or an attempt to open it up to non-right of centre people. There are areas around philosophy and contemporary politics that benefit from not having sarky partisan comments from other parties or those posters who are hysterical at even the slightest conservative opinion. For those of us who aren’t in a room so don’t know what we are missing, what sort of conversation goes on in the party rooms? Without knowing that, it’s difficult to know if existing ones are needed/ a new one is needed? There is another alleged quote from Churchill that "your opponents are in front of you, your enemies are behind". |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Dec 23, 2022 10:45:48 GMT
This is not a sentiment I share. I value the Blue Room and would oppose either it's abolition or an attempt to open it up to non-right of centre people. There are areas around philosophy and contemporary politics that benefit from not having sarky partisan comments from other parties or those posters who are hysterical at even the slightest conservative opinion. For those of us who aren’t in a room so don’t know what we are missing, what sort of conversation goes on in the party rooms? Without knowing that, it’s difficult to know if existing ones are needed/ a new one is needed? Ah, but that would spoil the fun of 'what goes on in the Blue Room etc.' Like the Royal Family, the Blue Room must maintain an air of mystique to outsiders😜. What I will say is that the general thrust is threads around party business, talking about aspects of conservative philosophy and policy and so on. These things would not be attractive to ordinary members and would be liable to attract several trolls and the hysterical on the main. There is also general stuff that could appear in off topic but hasn't. It's basically like a mini forum away from other parties and only open to centre-right posters. I don't know how heavily used the other party rooms are, but the Blue Room is very active. |
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Post by AdminSTB on Dec 23, 2022 10:55:48 GMT
The Blue Room is the most active.
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Post by AdminSTB on Dec 23, 2022 10:56:11 GMT
As a relatively new user here I’m not sure how to vote thanks to having no idea which rooms already exist– the FAQ doesn’t shine any light on this! This will be updated  A work in progress at the moment. |
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 23, 2022 11:00:32 GMT
As a relatively new user here I’m not sure how to vote thanks to having no idea which rooms already exist– the FAQ doesn’t shine any light on this! In our Forum Father's house there are many Mansions. The Blue Roomites love that it is so. The Red Roomites despair that the inequality permits such abominations as mansions at all. The Yellow Roomites are eagerly designing and refining a 'Mansion Tax' that they will never be able to deliver, but enjoying themselves. Other dusty largely unused mansions are availble and stand gaunt, unloved and in disrepair! |
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Post by greyfriar on Dec 23, 2022 11:13:29 GMT
I haven’t voted, and won’t. If a board is set up its membership is voluntary. Non-aligned people aren’t corralled into it. But it isn’t for me to dictate the spaces people choose to have to themselves. I’ve been mildly surprised that there isn’t a railway enthusiasts room, or a real ale room. Within what is a political site both seem to have a strong cross-party followings. The railway and real ale enthusiasts should rightly have their own room in which to undertake their perverted activities out of sight of the polite society of the wider forum. Fairness would of course necessitate the creation of an anti-room within which right thinking members could discuss strategies for protecting western civilisation from the intrinsic evil of nefarious parka wearing, bespectacled weirdos otherwise intent on bespoiling the innocence of our children in rivers of IPA and stout. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2022 11:38:05 GMT
You could have an "anti-party" room for people who actively reject the idea of political parties or the options currently available to them. That would at least have a common ideological thread binding them even if it would still be politically diverse
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 23, 2022 11:48:57 GMT
You could have an "anti-party" room for people who actively reject the idea of political parties or the options currently available to them. That would at least have a common ideological thread binding them even if it would still be politically diverse I really like the idea of an Ante-Room on the way too the party rooms. It should be large with many alcoves and cubicles, as well as lots of groupings of enormous leather sofas. An excellent bar serving sound wine, fine real ales and best whisky, by waiter service (in white jackets) only. High quality snacks and afternoon tea also served during reasonable hours and late on thursdays and other important election nights. No piped muzak, no slots or games, no radio or TV, no newspapers permitted, but a good array of magazines in rackks for the purpose. Headed notepaper and envelopes on the writing tables. Outward post collected, stamped and despatched by the waiters. No talk on politics, religion, women or 'cute boys' permitted! |
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Post by nyx on Dec 23, 2022 12:12:00 GMT
As a relatively new user here I’m not sure how to vote thanks to having no idea which rooms already exist– the FAQ doesn’t shine any light on this! In our Forum Father's house there are many Mansions. The Blue Roomites love that it is so. The Red Roomites despair that the inequality permits such abominations as mansions at all. The Yellow Roomites are eagerly designing and refining a 'Mansion Tax' that they will never be able to deliver, but enjoying themselves. Other dusty largely unused mansions are availble and stand gaunt, unloved and in disrepair! Intriguing. In terms of the political party my views are closest to, I think it would have to be the SDP, or out of the big parties probably the Lib Dems, but I have voted or seriously considered voting for pretty much every major party before. I have no doubts I would find some disagreements with the views of the residents of any of those rooms. Perhaps a non aligned room might be interesting– but it’s hard to tell for sure unless one were to actually exist, I suppose. |
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 23, 2022 12:37:24 GMT
Warming to this subject just a little bit, might one suggest a series of rooms for what are discernible traits in our Forum :-
Existensialist Room
Nihilist Room
Atheist Room
Non-Conformist Room
Postmodernist Room
Classical Tradition Room
Oligarchy Room
Autarchy Room
Monarchy (Regal) Court
Orthodox Room
Roman Catholic Chapel
Misanthropic Room
Pessimists Room
Hedonist Room
Fatalist Room
Historicist Room
Empiricist Room
Stoic Room
Epicurian Room
And a very large room for the 'Nit Picking Trivialists' who abound on this Forum.
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 23, 2022 12:45:22 GMT
The Blue Room is the most active. In the past that was certainly true of the Labour room, but yes we have quietened down a bit in the past few years. Which, if anything, shows how this forum does mirror wider political trends to some extent. (though I will also say that even during the worst of the 2015-20 period, "our" room remained generally civil with only the odd outbreak of unpleasantness) |
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Post by grahammurray on Dec 23, 2022 12:46:02 GMT
Warming to this subject just a little bit, might one suggest a series of rooms for what are discernible traits in our Forum :- Existensialist Room Nihilist Room Atheist Room Non-Conformist Room Postmodernist Room Classical Tradition Room Oligarchy Room Autarchy Room Monarchy (Regal) Court Orthodox Room Roman Catholic Chapel Misanthropic Room Pessimists Room Hedonist Room Fatalist Room Historicist Room Empiricist Room Stoic Room Epicurian Room And a very large room for the 'Nit Picking Trivialists' who abound on this Forum. Nitpicking is one word or hyphenated.  |
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 23, 2022 12:48:45 GMT
Warming to this subject just a little bit, might one suggest a series of rooms for what are discernible traits in our Forum :- Existensialist Room Nihilist Room Atheist Room Non-Conformist Room Postmodernist Room Classical Tradition Room Oligarchy Room Autarchy Room Monarchy (Regal) Court Orthodox Room Roman Catholic Chapel Misanthropic Room Pessimists Room Hedonist Room Fatalist Room Historicist Room Empiricist Room Stoic Room Epicurian Room And a very large room for the 'Nit Picking Trivialists' who abound on this Forum. Nitpicking is one word or hyphenated. In our new and heralded 'open opportunities grammar' words are spelled and used as the user sees fit on any one day. |
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Post by Forfarshire Conservative on Dec 23, 2022 13:00:39 GMT
The Blue Room is the most active. In the past that was certainly true of the Labour room, but yes we have quietened down a bit in the past few years. Which, if anything, shows how this forum does mirror wider political trends to some extent. (though I will also say that even during the worst of the 2015-20 period, "our" room remained generally civil with only the odd outbreak of unpleasantness) This might surprise people given how robust many of us in blue, or blue adjacent colours, are, but there's no discord in the Blue Room. |
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 23, 2022 14:19:15 GMT
In the past that was certainly true of the Labour room, but yes we have quietened down a bit in the past few years. Which, if anything, shows how this forum does mirror wider political trends to some extent. (though I will also say that even during the worst of the 2015-20 period, "our" room remained generally civil with only the odd outbreak of unpleasantness) This might surprise people given how robust many of us in blue, or blue adjacent colours, are, but there's no discord in the Blue Room. Apart from the fighting, the backstabbing and the endemic factionalism of course! It is odd how well we all get along despite some very great divisions over policy, religion, philosophy and even definition of terms. It must be that the mindset is more gut related than intellectual? We know how we feel and react far more than what we know and believe. We are not very rule based or text based. It is possible to be a member of more than one party without issues. The rules in the parties and in the room are quite lax and forgiving. When we are in mid rant or expressing very off key stuff, it is enjoyed as entertainment or ignored or people message each other for a long rambling discussion. We tend to communicate and meet up as well. We are less formal and more of an associative club. There are probably no No Go areas at all and redemption is not a problem. Yet, we do de-select and expel just as many from the political party but always over a vital policy element of that moment. The grouping seems to be utterly pragmatic but unforgiving of anything that loses a HOC vote on an area belived to be fundamental. |
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