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Post by owainsutton on Jan 22, 2023 16:30:30 GMT
Reminiscent of the battles between Bromley and ken Livingstone's GLC in the 80s There's similar aggro going on in Greater Manchester, where the Clean Air Zone has been pushed back again. One bloke told the Evening News that it was ridiculous that he'd have to pay as a resident whilst the Teslas coming in from Cheshire sat in traffic outside his house. Note that the Tories made opposition to the CAZ a major part of their 2021 mayoral campaign. Hardly damaged Burnham's chances.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 22, 2023 17:27:28 GMT
There's similar aggro going on in Greater Manchester, where the Clean Air Zone has been pushed back again. One bloke told the Evening News that it was ridiculous that he'd have to pay as a resident whilst the Teslas coming in from Cheshire sat in traffic outside his house. Note that the Tories made opposition to the CAZ a major part of their 2021 mayoral campaign. Hardly damaged Burnham's chances. It's a sign of how inept their campaign there was that we didn't even receive any attack material from them on this (or any) topic, despite this being an obvious place to target. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out in Stockport (and possibly Wigan) come the council elections. Prediction: it will barely be mentioned because everyone has the potential to get it in the neck from different angles.
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Post by owainsutton on Jan 22, 2023 18:13:52 GMT
Note that the Tories made opposition to the CAZ a major part of their 2021 mayoral campaign. Hardly damaged Burnham's chances. It's a sign of how inept their campaign there was that we didn't even receive any attack material from them on this (or any) topic, despite this being an obvious place to target. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out in Stockport (and possibly Wigan) come the council elections. Prediction: it will barely be mentioned because everyone has the potential to get it in the neck from different angles. Tory foot-soldier activists? In Greater Manchester suburbs? A very rare species nowadays. (In 2017 I think the Tories got a decent chunk of their leaflet done by hand in Trafford. They'd never get close to that now.) As for the council elections, we barely heard about it last year, aside from one very angry man with a pickup truck that was too big for his drive.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 22, 2023 18:39:24 GMT
It's a sign of how inept their campaign there was that we didn't even receive any attack material from them on this (or any) topic, despite this being an obvious place to target. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out in Stockport (and possibly Wigan) come the council elections. Prediction: it will barely be mentioned because everyone has the potential to get it in the neck from different angles. Tory foot-soldier activists? In Greater Manchester suburbs? A very rare species nowadays. (In 2017 I think the Tories got a decent chunk of their leaflet done by hand in Trafford. They'd never get close to that now.) As for the council elections, we barely heard about it last year, aside from one very angry man with a pickup truck that was too big for his drive. Yep, back around 2010 I don't think they'd ever done a paid delivery. Now it's probably all of them. Then again, the Tory and Lib Dem leaflets here also seem to be paid delivery these days.
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Post by myth11 on Jan 22, 2023 18:45:01 GMT
Note that the Tories made opposition to the CAZ a major part of their 2021 mayoral campaign. Hardly damaged Burnham's chances. It's a sign of how inept their campaign there was that we didn't even receive any attack material from them on this (or any) topic, despite this being an obvious place to target. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out in Stockport (and possibly Wigan) come the council elections. Prediction: it will barely be mentioned because everyone has the potential to get it in the neck from different angles. MR Khan is likely to be attacked as been behind on net zero as Paris is meant to banning/fining diesels from 2024 and petrol cars older than 2011 too.
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Post by owainsutton on Jan 22, 2023 19:00:48 GMT
Tory foot-soldier activists? In Greater Manchester suburbs? A very rare species nowadays. (In 2017 I think the Tories got a decent chunk of their leaflet done by hand in Trafford. They'd never get close to that now.) As for the council elections, we barely heard about it last year, aside from one very angry man with a pickup truck that was too big for his drive. Yep, back around 2010 I don't think they'd ever done a paid delivery. Now it's probably all of them. Then again, the Tory and Lib Dem leaflets here also seem to be paid delivery these days. Your Lib Dems haven't spent all of their Stop Brexit Party money?
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Post by timrollpickering on Jan 22, 2023 21:22:23 GMT
Reminiscent of the battles between Bromley and ken Livingstone's GLC in the 80s With the similar problem that the TfL presence in the borough is about the smallest of all. There are only two tram stops in LB Sutton that serve industrial land in Beddington with only about a hundred LB Sutton homes within a kilometre. And no other TfL stations at all. Sutton also has the lowest number of bus routes (21) and the third lowest number per head. Sticking Thameslink on the tube map doesn't make up for this, especially as the Sutton Loop has only two trains an hour each way and rail fares are charged at the rail price not the tube price. You can see why a tram was proposed and I suspect the idea is going to float around for many years to come regardless of the practicalities, either as a solid project for Sutton to demand or as a carrot for TfL to swing.
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Post by London Lad on Jan 24, 2023 16:18:43 GMT
On the issue of renaming Black Boy Lane in Haringey. As well as spending £180k renaming the road (although the street signs still say 'Black Boy Lane') its now come to light that the blacks living in Black Boy Lane didnt want the name changed in the first place...
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Post by rockefeller on Jan 25, 2023 12:08:21 GMT
Don't give Sadiq Khan ideas, Hackney. LDN ❌ LTN ✅
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Jan 30, 2023 18:16:28 GMT
Why does he bother? He has never come close to winning the Conservative nomination. So have you decided not to bother with standing for the Green deputy leadership (where you did twenty-eight times worse than Boff, 1.6% to his 44.9%) or indeed for Parliament (where you did thirty-four times worse, with just 1.3%) again?
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Jan 30, 2023 18:19:15 GMT
Reminiscent of the battles between Bromley and ken Livingstone's GLC in the 80s With the similar problem that the TfL presence in the borough is about the smallest of all. There are only two tram stops in LB Sutton that serve industrial land in Beddington with only about a hundred LB Sutton homes within a kilometre. And no other TfL stations at all. Sutton also has the lowest number of bus routes (21) and the third lowest number per head. Sticking Thameslink on the tube map doesn't make up for this, especially as the Sutton Loop has only two trains an hour each way and rail fares are charged at the rail price not the tube price. You can see why a tram was proposed and I suspect the idea is going to float around for many years to come regardless of the practicalities, either as a solid project for Sutton to demand or as a carrot for TfL to swing. Extending the Northern Line to Sutton (in place of the useless 2tph Thameslink loop) would make more sense as a way of actually getting somewhere.
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Post by London Lad on Jan 30, 2023 21:52:05 GMT
Khan refuses referendum on ULEZ expansion because he knows he would lose - but its a 'brave, strong leader' who ignores the wishes of the people...
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Post by timrollpickering on Jan 30, 2023 22:24:03 GMT
Extending the Northern Line to Sutton (in place of the useless 2tph Thameslink loop) would make more sense as a way of actually getting somewhere. There's not enough capacity on the Northern Line, every station would have to be replaced to be accessible and a whole new set of platforms would have to be built at Sutton. This one is a complete non-starter. If you want to improve the loop, run four trains an hour that terminate at Blackfriars. But local politicians didn't want that.
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Post by batman on Jan 30, 2023 22:37:13 GMT
Why does he bother? He has never come close to winning the Conservative nomination. So have you decided not to bother with standing for the Green deputy leadership (where you did twenty-eight times worse than Boff, 1.6% to his 44.9%) or indeed for Parliament (where you did thirty-four times worse, with just 1.3%) again? I was satisfied with the result of the Green deputy leadership contest as the winner is my cousin once removed.
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Post by sirbenjamin on Jan 31, 2023 9:39:50 GMT
Extending the Northern Line to Sutton (in place of the useless 2tph Thameslink loop) would make more sense as a way of actually getting somewhere. There's not enough capacity on the Northern Line, every station would have to be replaced to be accessible and a whole new set of platforms would have to be built at Sutton. This one is a complete non-starter. If you want to improve the loop, run four trains an hour that terminate at Blackfriars. But local politicians didn't want that. Indeed. The Southern end of the Northern Line has been one of the most congested parts of the network for years. I believe for a long time (quite possibly still) the most crowded station-to-station section in peak hours was between Clapham North and Stockwell. The only way an extension beyond Morden could happen would be to revive the old plans to duplicate the line south of Pennington with a NYC style 'express' service. This was seriously mooted some time ago and some station upgrades were designed to accommodate the possibility. Hugely unlikely now though.
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 31, 2023 9:53:19 GMT
There's not enough capacity on the Northern Line, every station would have to be replaced to be accessible and a whole new set of platforms would have to be built at Sutton. This one is a complete non-starter. If you want to improve the loop, run four trains an hour that terminate at Blackfriars. But local politicians didn't want that. Indeed. The Southern end of the Northern Line has been one of the most congested parts of the network for years. I believe for a long time (quite possibly still) the most crowded station-to-station section in peak hours was between Clapham North and Stockwell. The only way an extension beyond Morden could happen would be to revive the old plans to duplicate the line south of Pennington with a NYC style 'express' service. This was seriously mooted some time ago and some station upgrades were designed to accommodate the possibility. Hugely unlikely now though. Don't drag him into it for God's sake.
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Post by aargauer on Jan 31, 2023 10:54:51 GMT
Indeed. The Southern end of the Northern Line has been one of the most congested parts of the network for years. I believe for a long time (quite possibly still) the most crowded station-to-station section in peak hours was between Clapham North and Stockwell. The only way an extension beyond Morden could happen would be to revive the old plans to duplicate the line south of Pennington with a NYC style 'express' service. This was seriously mooted some time ago and some station upgrades were designed to accommodate the possibility. Hugely unlikely now though. Don't drag him into it for God's sake. Don't worry. He's never been to London.
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Post by sirbenjamin on Feb 1, 2023 7:55:42 GMT
There's not enough capacity on the Northern Line, every station would have to be replaced to be accessible and a whole new set of platforms would have to be built at Sutton. This one is a complete non-starter. If you want to improve the loop, run four trains an hour that terminate at Blackfriars. But local politicians didn't want that. Indeed. The Southern end of the Northern Line has been one of the most congested parts of the network for years. I believe for a long time (quite possibly still) the most crowded station-to-station section in peak hours was between Clapham North and Stockwell. The only way an extension beyond Morden could happen would be to revive the old plans to duplicate the line south of Pennington with a NYC style 'express' service. This was seriously mooted some time ago and some station upgrades were designed to accommodate the possibility. Hugely unlikely now though. There should be some sort of award for best auto-correct this year.
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Post by rockefeller on Feb 3, 2023 15:16:33 GMT
Harrow Council challenging ULEZ expansion in court
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Post by London Lad on Feb 3, 2023 17:16:57 GMT
Well look on the brightside - if the ULEZ zone does get increased you can still drive your Bentley or Range Rover without paying the charge.. Save the planet.....er...hmm...
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