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Post by carlton43 on Oct 21, 2022 15:11:45 GMT
I'm not seeking to minimise the problem of men making unwanted advances, but I'm glad I don't have to worry any more about whether something I might say or do could be misinterpreted - one of the few advantages of being old. We seems to have moved into a society where men must never make advances, but women haven't yet caught up and realised that this puts the onus on them to do so. Cats for everybody! Oh yes they have. Have you never been propositioned by a women? Even 30-years ago I was propositioned far more often than doing it myself. |
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Post by aargauer on Oct 21, 2022 15:14:59 GMT
We seems to have moved into a society where men must never make advances, but women haven't yet caught up and realised that this puts the onus on them to do so. Cats for everybody! Oh yes they have. Have you never been propositioned by a women? Even 30-years ago I was propositioned far more often than doing it myself. Repeatedly trying to kiss one's employee after taking them on a trip purely for the purpose of trying to get it off is not acceptable behaviour. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 21, 2022 15:21:43 GMT
Oh yes they have. Have you never been propositioned by a women? Even 30-years ago I was propositioned far more often than doing it myself. Repeatedly trying to kiss one's employee after taking them on a trip purely for the purpose of trying to get it off is not acceptable behaviour. Welcome to the asexual, gender-bender is OK, but never try it on in the nasty outmoded heterosexual manner or you will be outed and made to resign. |
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Post by Ben Walker on Oct 21, 2022 15:22:04 GMT
I'll be supporting Sam(antha) Dixon as succeeding Labour candidate here. Your Berlusconi face has me puzzled? I had imagined that might indicate some right-of-centre sympathies? Hah no, just found his perpetual reappearance on Ita politics a bit too funny. |
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Post by Merseymike on Oct 21, 2022 15:23:59 GMT
Repeatedly trying to kiss one's employee after taking them on a trip purely for the purpose of trying to get it off is not acceptable behaviour. Welcome to the asexual, gender-bender is OK, but never try it on in the nasty outmoded heterosexual manner or you will be outed and made to resign. It's about the power relationship between employer and employee. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 21, 2022 15:42:04 GMT
I might be a millennial but i don't think the behaviour described im that link is remotely acceptable. Ginger! You're barmy!! |
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Post by finsobruce on Oct 21, 2022 15:53:43 GMT
I might be a millennial but i don't think the behaviour described im that link is remotely acceptable. Ginger! You're barmy!! You''ll never join the army
You'll never be a scout
With his shirt hanging out..
Ginger you're barmy.
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Post by aargauer on Oct 21, 2022 16:19:55 GMT
Repeatedly trying to kiss one's employee after taking them on a trip purely for the purpose of trying to get it off is not acceptable behaviour. Welcome to the asexual, gender-bender is OK, but never try it on in the nasty outmoded heterosexual manner or you will be outed and made to resign. Doesn't have anything to do with sexuality. If the MP was gay, and the staffer Male it'd be identical. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Oct 21, 2022 17:00:19 GMT
We seems to have moved into a society where men must never make advances, but women haven't yet caught up and realised that this puts the onus on them to do so. Cats for everybody! Oh yes they have. Have you never been propositioned by a women? Even 30-years ago I was propositioned far more often than doing it myself. Yes, but only realised about five years later. Chatting in bar, having drinks. Her: Shall we go to my rooms, my room-mate is away for the weekend. Chatting in her room, having cups of tea, discussing the UK union Her: My room-mate is away for the weekend. Sitting on bed, chatting away, discussing gender roles as expressed in fiction Me: It's getting late, I'd better be going. Edit: This was 40 years ago, which is another country really. Along with the polite thing being: want to? no thanks. ok (back off), I think back then women were more prepared to make the inital offer. Along with today now seemingly: want to? RAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPeeeeeeeee111!!! it seems today's women are bemused by the concept of them making any move. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Oct 21, 2022 17:15:45 GMT
Oh yes they have. Have you never been propositioned by a women? Even 30-years ago I was propositioned far more often than doing it myself. Repeatedly trying to kiss one's employee after taking them on a trip purely for the purpose of trying to get it off is not acceptable behaviour. Yes, exactly. While in my day (harrumph!) the work environment was probably the majority place couples coupled up, the polite thing was also to politely back off after being rebuffed from a polite initial enquiry, and - importantly - not keep trying it on again. I'm a contractor, so I'm rarely in the same workplace for any extended period of time. I'm in IT, so I'm rarely in any workplace with any female staff. I'm in my mid-50s, so there's rarely any single people around in a similar age group. Ok, I think I'll just get that cat. |
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Post by owainsutton on Oct 21, 2022 17:28:53 GMT
In this thread, people who I would be very concerned about being the line manager of anyone.
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Post by islington on Oct 21, 2022 19:52:17 GMT
It's a shame he couldn't backdate it because about eighteen months ago this would have been a very interesting byelection. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 21, 2022 20:18:05 GMT
Oh yes they have. Have you never been propositioned by a women? Even 30-years ago I was propositioned far more often than doing it myself. Yes, but only realised about five years later. Chatting in bar, having drinks. Her: Shall we go to my rooms, my room-mate is away for the weekend. Chatting in her room, having cups of tea, discussing the UK union Her: My room-mate is away for the weekend. Sitting on bed, chatting away, discussing gender roles as expressed in fiction Me: It's getting late, I'd better be going. Edit: This was 40 years ago, which is another country really. Along with the polite thing being: want to? no thanks. ok (back off), I think back then women were more prepared to make the inital offer. Along with today now seemingly: want to? RAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPeeeeeeeee111!!! it seems today's women are bemused by the concept of them making any move. Very well put. Oh to be young and innocent again. Innocence is a good state but I think I will have missed out on so many occasions when the 'offer' was very clear but in no way overt, so I missed it altogether and caused disappointment without ever knowing. It is a very tricky field of potential activity where there was confusion, repression, fear, mistrust but just so much tentativeness and general naivety leading to failure of so much fully consensual pleasure that might have been? Now the problems are much more about unknown reactions and fears of doing saying and even thinking 'incorrect' thoughts, let alone the consequent actions. I can think back in total gratitude to a middle aged woman at a big conference (work based) quite unknown to me and from some different organization (I never knew what) who whispered in my ear "God this tedious! I am bored rigid." "Shall we leave quietly, go to my room and make better use of time?" So we did and it was a much better use of time of course. Clear honest and direct. Sensible woman. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 21, 2022 20:39:32 GMT
Oh yes they have. Have you never been propositioned by a women? Even 30-years ago I was propositioned far more often than doing it myself. Repeatedly trying to kiss one's employee after taking them on a trip purely for the purpose of trying to get it off is not acceptable behaviour. Firstly, why did she go there then? If she said clearly " Look, stop doing that, or I shall have to publicly slap your face." It would be over. This has the feel of a form of 'buyer's remorse'? Thought about and changed my mind. Went for it at the time but now regret it. Led him on then changed my mind. Did it but it has led nowhere for me and now wish to punish him for neglect or failed promises. |
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Post by Wisconsin on Oct 21, 2022 20:54:26 GMT
If she said clearly "Look, stop doing that, or I shall have to publicly slap your face." It would be over. Not everyone is this confident. Nor are they able to go back in time and fix things. Nor is it clear that doing this would have worked out well for her. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 21, 2022 20:56:10 GMT
Welcome to the asexual, gender-bender is OK, but never try it on in the nasty outmoded heterosexual manner or you will be outed and made to resign. Doesn't have anything to do with sexuality. If the MP was gay, and the staffer Male it'd be identical. Oh yes it does. Being a normal heterosexual and behaving in a quite normal heterosexual manner is now as bad as being 100% White, nearly as bad as being upper middle class, but not as bad as going to a good public school. Whereas being a gender bender and wishing to get into women's toilets and cheat at sports is not only OK but protected by damn fool hate legislation imposed by the serried ranks of the ever more supremacist legions of LBGTYZK, or whatever they are calling themselves this week, have dreamed up to bash us with. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 21, 2022 21:04:30 GMT
Repeatedly trying to kiss one's employee after taking them on a trip purely for the purpose of trying to get it off is not acceptable behaviour. Yes, exactly. While in my day (harrumph!) the work environment was probably the majority place couples coupled up, the polite thing was also to politely back off after being rebuffed from a polite initial enquiry, and - importantly - not keep trying it on again. I'm a contractor, so I'm rarely in the same workplace for any extended period of time. I'm in IT, so I'm rarely in any workplace with any female staff. I'm in my mid-50s, so there's rarely any single people around in a similar age group. Ok, I think I'll just get that cat. I was propositioned far more frequently after retirement and thus after the age of 50. Do not hang up your boots. But get the cat. They often like cats. |
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 21, 2022 21:31:54 GMT
If she said clearly "Look, stop doing that, or I shall have to publicly slap your face." It would be over. Not everyone is this confident. Nor are they able to go back in time and fix things. Nor is it clear that doing this would have worked out well for her. Go on then, tell us! What is the great hurt that she suffered? |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Oct 21, 2022 22:26:12 GMT
If she said clearly "Look, stop doing that, or I shall have to publicly slap your face." It would be over. Not everyone is this confident. Nor are they able to go back in time and fix things. Nor is it clear that doing this would have worked out well for her. There was a time when society trained young women to clearly tell an unwanted suiter to piss off, and young men were trained to piss off when told to. And if a woman wasn't confidant enough, men were gentlemanly enough to tell the offender: piss off mate, she's not interested. Not enough young men are clouted around the ear'ole by their Mums any more. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2022 1:27:55 GMT
The Brexit Party candidate from 2019 here seems to be active on Twitter still. No mention of this by-election yet. twitter.com/AThebrexitparty? |
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