The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 4, 2022 10:14:12 GMT
Is John Rentoul of the Independant a Tory? He's been on BBC News saying this isn't a great result for Labour and that the Tories will be happy?! And it won't be enough for Labour to win a General Election - I couldn't believe what I was hearing from an 'expert' What was the rationale for this? I assumed that the swing in Chester would be slightly above national average since it's a part of the world that's trended Labour the last few elections and where they seem to be well organised on the ground. That is one argument, but another is that having done much better than average in Chester since 2010 meant there was less room for Labour support to grow. |
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Post by sirbenjamin on Dec 6, 2022 10:32:02 GMT
Because the Tories are past their Selby date? They Aintsy bad Maybe just a tad. Caster few more votes their way. |
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Post by john07 on Dec 6, 2022 20:14:58 GMT
It's common to read that the key reason for the shift against the Tories here longer term is the Merseyside effect creeping this way. How much of this change can also be put down to the student population (possibly a bit like Canterbury but on a smaller scale)? I'd expect the student numbers to have grown a lot here in the last twenty years or so (relative to the average, I don't think I'd even heard of the University of Chester until recently). I am not surprised as it was a Teacher Training College/Higher Education Institute up to 1996 and then a University College. Chester is the sort of place that would have expected to have University at least from the 1960s if not 100 years earlier. It is in the same category as Lincoln. Even a middle-sized University can have a significant impact on the politics of such a City. |
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Post by batman on Dec 6, 2022 21:54:19 GMT
yes I've heard it said that the Labour gain in Lincoln in 2017 was mainly down to student votes, and yet we don't really think of Lincoln as a particularly studenty city.
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Post by john07 on Dec 6, 2022 22:16:56 GMT
yes I've heard it said that the Labour gain in Lincoln in 2017 was mainly down to student votes, and yet we don't really think of Lincoln as a particularly studenty city. I went there a few years back for an academic conference and found the place to be full of students. The conference was on graduation day. There were two colleges there. One was a campus of De Montford University and the other a branch of the University of Humberside. The latter relocated fully to Lincoln in 2001-2 and changed its name to the University of Lincoln. The former merged into the latter. Lincoln even has a Medical School now. |
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Post by bsjmcr on Dec 6, 2022 23:18:21 GMT
yes I've heard it said that the Labour gain in Lincoln in 2017 was mainly down to student votes, and yet we don't really think of Lincoln as a particularly studenty city. I went there a few years back for an academic conference and found the place to be full of students. The conference was on graduation day. There were two colleges there. One was a campus of De Montford University and the other a branch of the University of Humberside. The latter relocated fully to Lincoln in 2001-2 and changed its name to the University of Lincoln. The former merged into the latter. Lincoln even has a Medical School now. Linked with Nottingham, the more quintessential student city, but it's probably at capacity, so yes they recently created a Lincoln 'base' for the medical degree. Ironically, aspiring vets who choose to study at Nottingham are based in Sutton Bonington, which is a small rural campus 10 miles away (in Rushcliffe if you really want to know, but off-campus students choose to live in Kegworth, NW Leicestershire, and the campus itself is closer to Loughborough.) |
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Post by neilm on Dec 7, 2022 6:52:59 GMT
Lincoln has two universities now.
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Post by rockefeller on Dec 7, 2022 7:52:14 GMT
Lincoln has two universities now. This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them. |
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Post by batman on Dec 7, 2022 9:50:16 GMT
I'm going to found a third just to annoy rockefeller
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Post by neilm on Dec 7, 2022 10:36:51 GMT
I'm going to found a third just to annoy rockefeller You'll make me (Lincoln) green if you do. |
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Post by bjornhattan on Dec 7, 2022 10:52:02 GMT
I'm going to found a third just to annoy rockefeller What an Impish thing to do. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 7, 2022 15:57:24 GMT
I went there a few years back for an academic conference and found the place to be full of students. The conference was on graduation day. There were two colleges there. One was a campus of De Montford University and the other a branch of the University of Humberside. The latter relocated fully to Lincoln in 2001-2 and changed its name to the University of Lincoln. The former merged into the latter. Lincoln even has a Medical School now. Linked with Nottingham, the more quintessential student city, but it's probably at capacity, so yes they recently created a Lincoln 'base' for the medical degree. Ironically, aspiring vets who choose to study at Nottingham are based in Sutton Bonington, which is a small rural campus 10 miles away (in Rushcliffe if you really want to know, but off-campus students choose to live in Kegworth, NW Leicestershire, and the campus itself is closer to Loughborough.) A friend who read Genetics there was also sent to Sutton Bonington because it has a seed archive. |
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Post by neilm on Dec 8, 2022 0:06:54 GMT
Linked with Nottingham, the more quintessential student city, but it's probably at capacity, so yes they recently created a Lincoln 'base' for the medical degree. Ironically, aspiring vets who choose to study at Nottingham are based in Sutton Bonington, which is a small rural campus 10 miles away (in Rushcliffe if you really want to know, but off-campus students choose to live in Kegworth, NW Leicestershire, and the campus itself is closer to Loughborough.) A friend who read Genetics there was also sent to Sutton Bonington because it has a seed archive. Allegedly they had a project to genetically model a new cattle breed but they knocked it on the head when it looked like it would similar to Heck cattle, and who wants to be the one breeding second generation Nazi super cows. They also have a 'brewing science' department, which is probably duller than it sounds. |
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Post by sirbenjamin on Dec 13, 2022 18:30:35 GMT
They also have a 'brewing science' department, which is probably duller than it sounds.
They invited me and a few other beer writer types to some sort of open day thing a few months ago, but it clashed with my trip to tick off a bunch of Spoons around Glasgow.
The consensus was indeed that I didn't miss all that much and I almost certainly had a better time than those who attended.
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Post by neilm on Dec 13, 2022 18:38:41 GMT
They also have a 'brewing science' department, which is probably duller than it sounds. They invited me and a few other beer writer types to some sort of open day thing a few months ago, but it clashed with my trip to tick off a bunch of Spoons around Glasgow. The consensus was indeed that I didn't miss all that much and I almost certainly had a better time than those who attended.
Apart from disliking most of the stuff they do, my principle reason for disliking Thornbridge stuff when I worked in pubs in Sheffield was how they used to go on about how they were brewing chemists, that it was all about science and so on. I've just looked and they don't say that on their website anymore. |
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Post by sirbenjamin on Dec 13, 2022 18:58:34 GMT
They invited me and a few other beer writer types to some sort of open day thing a few months ago, but it clashed with my trip to tick off a bunch of Spoons around Glasgow. The consensus was indeed that I didn't miss all that much and I almost certainly had a better time than those who attended.
Apart from disliking most of the stuff they do, my principle reason for disliking Thornbridge stuff when I worked in pubs in Sheffield was how they used to go on about how they were brewing chemists, that it was all about science and so on. I've just looked and they don't say that on their website anymore.
Maybe best to wait until *after* the Admin election before bad-mouthing my favourite brewery! :-)
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Post by mrsir on Dec 13, 2022 19:20:51 GMT
Lincoln has a university campus in Holbeach.
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Post by neilm on Dec 13, 2022 19:25:14 GMT
Lincoln has a university campus in Holbeach. I think it's a food science and manufacturing place. |
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