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Post by timmullen1 on Dec 2, 2022 3:39:06 GMT
...directly targeting tories or soft tories (potential switchers) would be one way of getting much closer to doing so, moving up into a second place finish in this or a future election in the seats also...surely a medium-long term strategy worth trying in a by-election 'opportunity'...? Is it worth diverting resources away from canvassing etc ahead of next May’s in locals where they might actually have a decent chance of success? Better to get the headlines of increasing numbers of councillors/councils under their control, and being able to actually do something policy-wise, than a fairly pyrrhic victory of pushing the Tories into third place with no tangible reward? |
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Post by markgoodair on Dec 2, 2022 5:10:02 GMT
LibDems have a non-negligible local base in the seat, so said they were going to run a proper campaign and looks like they did. Very decent result for Labour, poor for Tories, pretty pathetic for Reform. Yes. Really poor for Reform in view of the Conservative % loss. They picked up nothing at all, so they are still making a zero cut through. That was always going to be the case with this set of first class losers. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2022 5:17:19 GMT
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Post by rockefeller on Dec 2, 2022 5:51:20 GMT
Labour held Hollyoaks comfortably I see
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Post by andrewp on Dec 2, 2022 9:30:27 GMT
A 14% swing in Chester would equate to a national Labour lead of 18%, so probably a little bit below what the polls are showing. I do feel that the swing would probably have been a bit higher in a Tory held marginal with the added ‘ get the Tories out’ impetus and a bit lower in a St Helens or a Merseyside seat where Labour have got most of the votes already.
If I had to bet now, I would bet on a 10-12% lead at the next General election and a Labour majority of about 70.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Dec 2, 2022 9:57:14 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 2, 2022 10:10:40 GMT
He seems familiar....  |
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Post by neilm on Dec 2, 2022 10:33:20 GMT
Thanks, I wondered if I had misheard when I saw the written result. |
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 2, 2022 10:37:02 GMT
I do believe that the winner is the first ever Samantha elected to the Commons, maybe slightly surprising given how common a name it was in the 1960s/70s.
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 2, 2022 10:43:46 GMT
I do believe that the winner is the first ever Samantha elected to the Commons, maybe slightly surprising given how common a name it was in the 1960s/70s. Have any come close? |
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Dec 2, 2022 10:44:12 GMT
Samantha is off just now to her vehicle maintenance evening class where she says she's keen to strip down a little Austin for a full service.
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 2, 2022 10:46:49 GMT
Samantha is off just now to her vehicle maintenance evening class where she says she's keen to strip down a little Austin for a full service. I wondered who would be the first  |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Dec 2, 2022 10:47:46 GMT
Samantha is off just now to her vehicle maintenance evening class where she says she's keen to strip down a little Austin for a full service. I wondered who would be the first I would hate to disappoint. |
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Post by aargauer on Dec 2, 2022 10:51:36 GMT
I do believe that the winner is the first ever Samantha elected to the Commons, maybe slightly surprising given how common a name it was in the 1960s/70s. Have any come close? Sam Thing got 0.6% in Amber Valley in 2010 for the MRLP. Serious answer: I think Chester is actually the closest (!). Samantha George got 38.3% for the Conservatives in 2019. |
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 2, 2022 10:55:14 GMT
After their "worst ever Labour result in Wakefield since 1931" contribution to the discourse on that byelection result, I see that certain of the Very Online Left are now doing "Labour vote DOWN MASSIVELY since 2019" regarding this one <sigh>
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 2, 2022 10:59:41 GMT
I do believe that the winner is the first ever Samantha elected to the Commons, maybe slightly surprising given how common a name it was in the 1960s/70s. We'll probably never see an Endora. |
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Post by aargauer on Dec 2, 2022 11:07:53 GMT
I do believe that the winner is the first ever Samantha elected to the Commons, maybe slightly surprising given how common a name it was in the 1960s/70s. We'll probably never see an Endora. We will end up with every female Mp being called great grandmother names like Ivy / Eva / Amelia / Olivia. They will date horrendously. |
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 2, 2022 11:11:23 GMT
We'll probably never see an Endora. We will end up with every female Mp being called great grandmother names like Ivy / Eva / Amelia / Olivia. They will date horrendously. Don't really think of the last two as "grandmother" names tbh, though agree they could become "dated" over time. |
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Post by andrewteale on Dec 2, 2022 11:13:39 GMT
Samantha is off just now to her vehicle maintenance evening class where she says she's keen to strip down a little Austin for a full service. Samantha needs to leave us now for her induction meeting with Parliament's head of security. She says she's looking forward to seeing the real Black Rod. |
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Post by aargauer on Dec 2, 2022 11:13:52 GMT
We will end up with every female Mp being called great grandmother names like Ivy / Eva / Amelia / Olivia. They will date horrendously. Don't really think of the last two as "grandmother" names tbh, though agree they could become "dated" over time. Amelia Earhart? |
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