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Post by andrewp on Sept 2, 2022 10:21:45 GMT
Posting for the record.
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 2, 2022 10:28:44 GMT
For what its worth (and yes, I share the general scepticism) this is the biggest Labour lead in any poll for around 20 years.
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Post by timmullen1 on Sept 2, 2022 10:36:41 GMT
For what its worth (and yes, I share the general scepticism) this is the biggest Labour lead in any poll for around 20 years. February 2002 according to some of the Twitterati.
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Post by The Bishop on Sept 2, 2022 10:44:08 GMT
Though one poll watcher has claimed it was MORI in October 2002 who last had a Labour lead over 17 points.
The conspiracy theory, given who is behind this outfit, is this is so that the "Truss bounce" can be magnified later.
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Post by jamie on Sept 2, 2022 10:53:51 GMT
The conspiracy theory, given who is behind this outfit, is this is so that the "Truss bounce" can be magnified later. Just appointed to the Social Mobility Commission by none other than Liz Truss…
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Post by willpower3 on Sept 2, 2022 10:56:27 GMT
Adjusted for the absurdly high 'other' percentage, it's more like 45-27.
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Post by woollyliberal on Sept 2, 2022 15:29:26 GMT
What is going on with this pollster that they have the Tories so much lower than everyone else? Especially odd since GB News have commissioned them.
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Post by afleitch on Sept 2, 2022 15:48:54 GMT
Are they a member of the British Polling Council?
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Sept 2, 2022 15:50:19 GMT
Are they a member of the British Polling Council? Yes
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Post by timmullen1 on Sept 2, 2022 15:50:41 GMT
Are they a member of the British Polling Council? According to their Twitter bio, yes.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Sept 2, 2022 16:13:48 GMT
What is going on with this pollster that they have the Tories so much lower than everyone else? Especially odd since GB News have commissioned them. When they "correct" their methodology, the "Truss bounce" will seem bigger?
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Post by afleitch on Sept 2, 2022 16:17:20 GMT
A result like that would result give a 1997 style majority, with it being even more brutal in England and Wales as there's less Labour representation in Scotland now.
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Post by YL on Sept 2, 2022 18:13:32 GMT
According to this pollster 17% of their sample of 18-24 year olds would choose "some other party", and it's 12% in the North of England. Perhaps it's the Northern Independence Party.
They also asked people whether they believe that Princess Diana died in an accident or was assassinated. (Q6 in the tables.)
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Post by Merseymike on Sept 2, 2022 18:26:19 GMT
According to this pollster 17% of their sample of 18-24 year olds would choose "some other party", and it's 12% in the North of England. Perhaps it's the Northern Independence Party. Sounds more like " none of the above" and suggests non-voting
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Post by islington on Sept 2, 2022 19:27:13 GMT
According to this pollster 17% of their sample of 18-24 year olds would choose "some other party", and it's 12% in the North of England. Perhaps it's the Northern Independence Party. They also asked people whether they believe that Princess Diana died in an accident or was assassinated. (Q6 in the tables.) And was she?
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Post by timmullen1 on Sept 2, 2022 19:51:06 GMT
According to this pollster 17% of their sample of 18-24 year olds would choose "some other party", and it's 12% in the North of England. Perhaps it's the Northern Independence Party. They also asked people whether they believe that Princess Diana died in an accident or was assassinated. (Q6 in the tables.) And was she? 40% said died in an accident, 29% said assassinated, 27% don’t know, 4% refused to answer. 44% of 17-24 year olds go for assassination.
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Post by Tony Otim on Sept 2, 2022 21:05:57 GMT
40% said died in an accident, 29% said assassinated, 27% don’t know, 4% refused to answer. 44% of 17-24 year olds go for assassination. None of whom were even born at the time...
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Post by timmullen1 on Sept 2, 2022 21:08:52 GMT
40% said died in an accident, 29% said assassinated, 27% don’t know, 4% refused to answer. 44% of 17-24 year olds go for assassination. None of whom were even born at the time... Which is probably why they believe she was assassinated because they’ve been fed an endless diet of Daily Star and Channel 5 conspiracy theories.
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Post by aargauer on Sept 2, 2022 21:15:08 GMT
40% said died in an accident, 29% said assassinated, 27% don’t know, 4% refused to answer. 44% of 17-24 year olds go for assassination. 30% of labour supporters vs 23% Conservative vs 17% Liberal Democrat believe in this "theory".
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Post by batman on Sept 2, 2022 21:17:49 GMT
Incidentally Tim having got my "slide rule" out, this poll suggests a swing just big enough to gain Stoke South, not just Central and North. The only seat won by Labour in 2017 which would stay Conservative would be Dudley North. The most unlikely Labour putative gain looks like North Somerset, which has never been on Labour's radar before but may just be seeing some creeping demographic influence from Bristol now. The Conservatives would still win 2 seats in the former county of Avon, Thornbury & Yate, and Weston-super-Mare.
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