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Post by oldhamexile on Sept 15, 2022 23:02:52 GMT
I expect turnout on the day was very tiny indeed, and that most of these votes were postal. There will have been some very quiet polling stations today, with campaigning presumably suspended for the last week of the campaign. I wonder if no campaigning in the last week helped Labour, for whom voting is more of a habit, more than the Independents, who may rely more on local campaigning. Also postal votes tend to be dominated by the established parties, especially if they either have or once had a decent local organisation, because properly organised Labour and Tory parties will get their regular voters to sign up for postals, especially the older ones. 'Dissident' parties often bang on about postal vote 'fraud', which historically of course has been a problem especially in certain communities, but a lot is just down to being organised. Many/most postal voters would already have cast their ballots before HMQ died.
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 15, 2022 23:31:53 GMT
I expect turnout on the day was very tiny indeed, and that most of these votes were postal. There will have been some very quiet polling stations today, with campaigning presumably suspended for the last week of the campaign. I wonder if no campaigning in the last week helped Labour, for whom voting is more of a habit, more than the Independents, who may rely more on local campaigning. Whilst party campaigning has been suspended Independents may have decided to continue. And it's unclear whether voters would actually take offence at them doing so.
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Post by yellowperil on Sept 15, 2022 23:55:04 GMT
I wonder if no campaigning in the last week helped Labour, for whom voting is more of a habit, more than the Independents, who may rely more on local campaigning. Whilst party campaigning has been suspended Independents may have decided to continue. And it's unclear whether voters would actually take offence at them doing so. I might guess that a small localist party like MInd might come off worst of all in those circumstances. It will be interesting to see how the other elections fare- I'm much less hopeful of Bolney now I see how this one has gone and the effect of suspension of campaigning. I should be in Bolney later today so if they are really slow counting I might have to report back from there directly.
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Post by timmullen1 on Sept 15, 2022 23:55:47 GMT
Irrespective of campaigning it may be as simple as the Ward returning to type having only voted once for the Mansfield Independents once, the late Cllr Hopewell who had twice been elected as the Labour candidate; there’s also evidence from the last elections in Mansfield, the County elections last year, that the Mansfield Independents may be a spent force, being wiped out, with Cllr Hopewell losing his seat in the Division including this Ward, suggesting that if he did have a personal vote it was diminishing.
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Post by Foggy on Sept 16, 2022 0:02:21 GMT
This is the second week in a row when I've been reminded in these threads of my GCSE English days. The year before I was taught by a Mr Furze, I had to study Spring and Port Wine. A classmate of mine at the time was called Raef and, not knowing anybody else by that name, I kept misspelling the first name of the Rafe Crompton character. That's on my list of excuses for my terrible grades, and I'm sticking by it. Nice to see Rodney Bewes in the picture used to illustrate the story though. He was of course better known for far superior works The Likely Lads and Resurrection of the Daleks. Now if I'd been allowed to analyse them for English literature class, I might've achieved a higher mark than an E.
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Post by greenchristian on Sept 16, 2022 0:03:54 GMT
Whilst party campaigning has been suspended Independents may have decided to continue. And it's unclear whether voters would actually take offence at them doing so. I might guess that a small localist party like MInd might come off worst of all in those circumstances. It will be interesting to see how the other elections fare- I'm much less hopeful of Bolney now I see how this one has gone and the effect of suspension of campaigning. I should be in Bolney later today so if they are really slow counting I might have to report back from there directly. Those parties might also have continued campaigning. They are under no obligation to follow the lead of the national parties on this issue.
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Post by kevinf on Sept 16, 2022 1:00:33 GMT
I might guess that a small localist party like MInd might come off worst of all in those circumstances. It will be interesting to see how the other elections fare- I'm much less hopeful of Bolney now I see how this one has gone and the effect of suspension of campaigning. I should be in Bolney later today so if they are really slow counting I might have to report back from there directly. Those parties might also have continued campaigning. They are under no obligation to follow the lead of the national parties on this issue. I don’t know about the others, but the Labour Party instruction was very clear, no local campaigning either.
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Post by timmullen1 on Sept 16, 2022 1:06:00 GMT
Those parties might also have continued campaigning. They are under no obligation to follow the lead of the national parties on this issue. I don’t know about the others, but the Labour Party instruction was very clear, no local campaigning either. I do know that we’ve suspended campaigning for the upcoming Bentilee and Ubberley byelection, with the exception of a candidate questionnaire included in yesterday’s edition of The Sentinel.
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Post by yellowperil on Sept 16, 2022 3:00:57 GMT
It certainly looks as though there has been a suspension of telling anyone of the results.
I'm just wondering how tiny the votes were in those City by-elections. They tend to be vanishingly small at the best of times.
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Post by johnloony on Sept 16, 2022 3:02:38 GMT
You either missed the joke or are ignoring it. I have only just noticed this comment, and noticed that it came immediately below my answer about Baron Von Thunderclap. I don’t know if it was intending to be a reply to me (even though you did not quote my answer), but in case it was: no I didn’t get any “joke” (if there was one). I was merely answering the question (about whether he is a new man or not) in stating that Baron Von Thunderclap has been a candidate multiple times in general elections, and presumably also local elections.
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Post by timmullen1 on Sept 16, 2022 3:22:14 GMT
You either missed the joke or are ignoring it. I have only just noticed this comment, and noticed that it came immediately below my answer about Baron Von Thunderclap. I don’t know if it was intending to be a reply to me (even though you did not quote my answer), but in case it was: no I didn’t get any “joke” (if there was one). I was merely answering the question (about whether he is a new man or not) in stating that Baron Von Thunderclap has been a candidate multiple times in general elections, and presumably also local elections. As illustrated by the video posted later, Thunderclap New-man was the joke/pun.
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Post by mattb on Sept 16, 2022 4:35:55 GMT
Don't have numbers but I gather Con hold Bolney with LD in clear but not particularly close second (very low turnout)
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Post by rockefeller on Sept 16, 2022 4:41:28 GMT
Tories still a small sapling in Oak Tree ward I see
How many wards share names with single trees?
Mansfield - Oak Tree Barnet - Burnt Oak Camden - Gospel Oak Birmingham - Selly Oak Liverpool - Knotty Ash, Wavertree
I'm sure there are more.
Are Birmingham, Selly Oak and Liverpool, Wavertree the only seats left named after a tree since the loss of Barkston Ash in 1983?
I'm excluding seats or wards named after groups of trees - Epping Forest, New Forest East and West, Wyre Forest, Sherwood, Forest of Dean, Sevenoaks, Dulwich & West Norwood etc.
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Post by batman on Sept 16, 2022 5:37:53 GMT
in addition, Aintree means a solitary tree. And most place names ending in -try also refer to single trees.
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Post by andrewteale on Sept 16, 2022 6:26:44 GMT
BOLTON, Rumworth - C gain from Lab C 1610 Lab 1102 Grn 156 LD 36 Bolton for Change 24
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Post by andrewteale on Sept 16, 2022 6:34:06 GMT
MID SUSSEX, Bolney - C hold C 301 LD 163 Lab 66 Loony 30 Grn 28 Ind 7
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Post by jamesdoyle on Sept 16, 2022 6:38:10 GMT
GWBWI
Con +71 LDm +8 Lab +6 Grn -5
ASV
Con +1.2 LDm +0.1 Lab +0.1 Grn -0.1
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Post by froome on Sept 16, 2022 6:49:21 GMT
MID SUSSEX, Bolney - C hold C 301 LD 163 Lab 66 Loony 30 Grn 28 Ind 7 I think that might answer andrewp's question further upthread. Bit embarrassing for us to finish below the Loony!
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Post by ricmk on Sept 16, 2022 7:12:46 GMT
So it’s between Ayyub Patel and Kristy Adams as the first Tory winners of the Truss era. I doubt we can be sure of which unless anyone is pedantic enough to check declaration times with the respective councils. Which almost invites it….
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Post by andrewp on Sept 16, 2022 7:27:35 GMT
A strange week with low turnouts, but obviously that is the Conservatives best week for quite a while.
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