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Post by andrea on Aug 18, 2022 9:42:59 GMT
Centre-right haven't published anything on the allocation yet. Still bargaining a bit. Nominations close on August 22th. Is it fair to assume that Lega would get the majority of the Northern Constituencies (outside of Liguria where Toti’s party would get some of the seats) and FDI in Central Italy to the south of the red belt? (I also assume that FI would mostly get constituencies in the south outside of Sicily where the regional party affiliated with FDI would get a decent chunk of the seats?) I agree about Lega because it is where they have incumbents. FI had seats in the North last time and I think they will have to give some of those constituencies to FDI. |
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Post by rcronald on Aug 18, 2022 10:13:48 GMT
Is it fair to assume that Lega would get the majority of the Northern Constituencies (outside of Liguria where Toti’s party would get some of the seats) and FDI in Central Italy to the south of the red belt? (I also assume that FI would mostly get constituencies in the south outside of Sicily where the regional party affiliated with FDI would get a decent chunk of the seats?) I agree about Lega because it is where they have incumbents. FI had seats in the North last time and I think they will have to give some of those constituencies to FDI. Do you have current FPTP maps by party of incumbent? |
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Post by andrea on Aug 18, 2022 11:36:18 GMT
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Post by rcronald on Aug 18, 2022 15:07:44 GMT
Current HoD FPTP reps Piemonte 1: 3FI 2PD 1FDI 1LN 1M5S 1Azione Piemonte 2: 1FI 1FDI 5LN 1Azione Valle d'Aosta: 1M5S Lombardia 1: 5FI 1PD 1FDI 5LN 1Azione 1IV 1LpF Lombardia 2: 1FDI 5LN 1Azione 1NCI Lombardia 3: 2FI 4LN 1Azione 1NCI Lombardia 4: 1FI 4LN 1Azione Trentino-Alto Adige: 3LN 1IV 2SVP Veneto 1: 6LN 1Azione 1CI Veneto 2: 3FI 1FDI 6LN 1IV Friuli-Venezia Giulia: 1FI 2LN 1NCI 1Cambiamo Liguria: 2FI 1LN 1M5S 1CI 1Cambiamo Emilia-Romagna: 8PD 1FDI 6LN 1IV 1Cambiamo Toscana: 1FI 5PD 1FDI 3LN 2IV 2Cambiamo Umbria: 1FI 1FDI 1LN Marche: 1LN 2M5S 1IpF 1A2050 1AVS Lazio 1: 2FI 4PD 2FDI 1LN 2M5S 1IpF 1AVS 1+E Lazio 2: 1FI 4FDI 1M5S 1IV Abruzzo: 1FI 1LN 1M5S 1IpF 1Alt Molise: 1M5S 1Alt Campania 1: 5M5S 1IV 4IpF 1AVS 1Article1 Campania 2: 2FI 1PD 5M5S 2IpF Puglia: 2PD 3M5S 1Azione 1IV 1CI 4IpF 1AVS 3Alt Basilicata: 1FI 1FDI Calabria: 1FI 1FDI 2M5S 1IV 1IpF 2Alt Sicilia 1: 4M5S 1Azione 2IpF 1Alt 1UP Sicilia 2: 5M5S 2IpF 1AVS 2Alt Sardegna: 1PD 1M5S 1IV 1IpF 2ALT |
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Post by andrea on Aug 18, 2022 15:32:47 GMT
Current HoD FPTP reps Piemonte 1: 3FI 2PD 1FDI 1LN 1M5S 1Azione Piemonte 2: 1FI 1FDI 5LN 1Azione Valle d'Aosta: 1M5S Lombardia 1: 5FI 1PD 1FDI 5LN 1Azione 1IV 1LpF Lombardia 2: 1FDI 5LN 1Azione 1NCI Lombardia 3: 2FI 4LN 1Azione 1NCI Lombardia 4: 1FI 4LN 1Azione Trentino-Alto Adige: 3LN 1IV 2SVP Veneto 1: 6LN 1Azione 1CI Veneto 2: 3FI 1FDI 6LN 1IV Friuli-Venezia Giulia: 1FI 2LN 1NCI 1Cambiamo Liguria: 2FI 1LN 1M5S 1CI 1Cambiamo Emilia-Romagna: 8PD 1FDI 6LN 1IV 1Cambiamo Toscana: 1FI 5PD 1FDI 3LN 2IV 2Cambiamo Umbria: 1FI 1FDI 1LN Marche: 1LN 2M5S 1IpF 1A2050 1AVS Lazio 1: 2FI 4PD 2FDI 1LN 2M5S 1IpF 1AVS 1+E Lazio 2: 1FI 4FDI 1M5S 1IV Abruzzo: 1FI 1LN 1M5S 1IpF 1Alt Molise: 1M5S 1Alt Campania 1: 5M5S 1IV 4IpF 1AVS 1Article1 Campania 2: 2FI 1PD 5M5S 2IpF Puglia: 2PD 3M5S 1Azione 1IV 1CI 4IpF 1AVS 3Alt Basilicata: 1FI 1FDI Calabria: 1FI 1FDI 2M5S 1IV 1IpF 2Alt Sicilia 1: 4M5S 1Azione 2IpF 1Alt 1UP Sicilia 2: 5M5S 2IpF 1AVS 2Alt Sardegna: 1PD 1M5S 1IV 1IpF 2ALT thanks. Obviously many changes in party affiliations compared to when they were elected. Centre-right meeting for candidates took place today. "24 more hours" to finalize the names needed. |
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Post by andrea on Aug 19, 2022 20:18:52 GMT
Centre-right haven't published anything on the allocation yet. Still bargaining a bit. Nominations close on August 22th. Is it fair to assume that Lega would get the majority of the Northern Constituencies (outside of Liguria where Toti’s party would get some of the seats) and FDI in Central Italy to the south of the red belt? (I also assume that FI would mostly get constituencies in the south outside of Sicily where the regional party affiliated with FDI would get a decent chunk of the seats?) It seems the following are Lega candidates in FPTP seats House In Piemonte (4) Elena Maccanti, Alessandro Vigna, Alberto Luigi Gusmeroli and Riccardo Molinari. In Liguria (1) Edoardo Rixi. In Lombardia (9) Laura Ravetto, Andrea Crippa, Stefano Candiani Nicola Molteni, Giancarlo Giorgetti, Rebecca Frassini, Simona Bordonali, Silvana Comaroli and Andrea Dara. In Trentino Aldo Adige (2) Vanessa Cattoi and Sabrina Adami. In Veneto (6) Giorgia Andreuzza, Dimitri Coin, Ingrid Bisa, Alberto Stefani, Massimo Bitonci and Lorenzo Fontana. In Friuli Venezia Giulia (2) Vannia Gava and Massimiliano Panizzut. In Toscana (3) Elisa Montemagni Tiziana Nisini and Edoardo Ziello. In Marche (2) Giorgia Latini and Mirco Carloni. In Umbria (1) Virginio Caparvi. In Lazio (3)l Simonetta Matone, Federico Freni and Nicola Ottaviani. In Abruzzo (1) Alberto Bagnai, in Puglia (2) Davide Bellomo and Rossano Sasso. In Calabria (1) Domenico Furgiuele. In Sicilia (2) Valeria Sudano and Antonino Minardo. In Sardegna (1) Dario Giagoni. In Emilia Romagna (3) Jacopo Morrone, Laura Cavandoli and Benedetta Fiorini. In Campania (2) Tina Donnarumma and Attilio Pierro Senate In Piemonte (2) Marzia Casolati (Torino città) e Giorgio Bergesio (Cuneo). In Liguria (1) Stefania Pucciarelli (La Spezia). In Lombardia (5) Massimiliano Romeo (Varese), Maria Cristina Cantù (Milano), Gian Marco Centinaio (Pavia), Daisy Pirovano (Bergamo) and Stefano Borghesi (Brescia). In Venet (2)o Mara Bizzotto (Vicenza) and Paolo Tosato (Verona). In Emilia Romagna (1) Elena Murelli (Piacenza-Parma). In Toscana(1) Manfredi Potenti (Livorno). Nel Lazio (2) Giulia Bongiorno (Roma Est) and Claudio Durigon (Viterbo). In Campania (1) Pina Castiello (Napoli). In Puglia (1) Roberto Marti (Lecce). In Calabria (1) Tilde Minasi (Reggio Calabria). In Sicilia (1) Mario Barbuto (Palermo). In Valle d'Aosta (1) Nicoletta Spelgatti. In Trentino Alto Adige (4) Martina Loss (Trento), Elena Testor (Valsugana), Maurizio Bosatra (Bolzano) and Rita Mattei (Merano). |
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Post by rcronald on Aug 20, 2022 4:16:12 GMT
Is it fair to assume that Lega would get the majority of the Northern Constituencies (outside of Liguria where Toti’s party would get some of the seats) and FDI in Central Italy to the south of the red belt? (I also assume that FI would mostly get constituencies in the south outside of Sicily where the regional party affiliated with FDI would get a decent chunk of the seats?) It seems the following are Lega candidates in FPTP seats House In Piemonte (4) Elena Maccanti, Alessandro Vigna, Alberto Luigi Gusmeroli and Riccardo Molinari. In Liguria (1) Edoardo Rixi. In Lombardia (9) Laura Ravetto, Andrea Crippa, Stefano Candiani Nicola Molteni, Giancarlo Giorgetti, Rebecca Frassini, Simona Bordonali, Silvana Comaroli and Andrea Dara. In Trentino Aldo Adige (2) Vanessa Cattoi and Sabrina Adami. In Veneto (6) Giorgia Andreuzza, Dimitri Coin, Ingrid Bisa, Alberto Stefani, Massimo Bitonci and Lorenzo Fontana. In Friuli Venezia Giulia (2) Vannia Gava and Massimiliano Panizzut. In Toscana (3) Elisa Montemagni Tiziana Nisini and Edoardo Ziello. In Marche (2) Giorgia Latini and Mirco Carloni. In Umbria (1) Virginio Caparvi. In Lazio (3)l Simonetta Matone, Federico Freni and Nicola Ottaviani. In Abruzzo (1) Alberto Bagnai, in Puglia (2) Davide Bellomo and Rossano Sasso. In Calabria (1) Domenico Furgiuele. In Sicilia (2) Valeria Sudano and Antonino Minardo. In Sardegna (1) Dario Giagoni. In Emilia Romagna (3) Jacopo Morrone, Laura Cavandoli and Benedetta Fiorini. In Campania (2) Tina Donnarumma and Attilio Pierro Senate In Piemonte (2) Marzia Casolati (Torino città) e Giorgio Bergesio (Cuneo). In Liguria (1) Stefania Pucciarelli (La Spezia). In Lombardia (5) Massimiliano Romeo (Varese), Maria Cristina Cantù (Milano), Gian Marco Centinaio (Pavia), Daisy Pirovano (Bergamo) and Stefano Borghesi (Brescia). In Venet (2)o Mara Bizzotto (Vicenza) and Paolo Tosato (Verona). In Emilia Romagna (1) Elena Murelli (Piacenza-Parma). In Toscana(1) Manfredi Potenti (Livorno). Nel Lazio (2) Giulia Bongiorno (Roma Est) and Claudio Durigon (Viterbo). In Campania (1) Pina Castiello (Napoli). In Puglia (1) Roberto Marti (Lecce). In Calabria (1) Tilde Minasi (Reggio Calabria). In Sicilia (1) Mario Barbuto (Palermo). In Valle d'Aosta (1) Nicoletta Spelgatti. In Trentino Alto Adige (4) Martina Loss (Trento), Elena Testor (Valsugana), Maurizio Bosatra (Bolzano) and Rita Mattei (Merano). House: Candidates (current FPTP members) Piemonte 4 (6) - 10/17, Liguria 1 (1) - 4/6 , Lombardia 9 (18) - 23/37, Trentino Aldo Adige 2 (3) - 4/6 , Veneto 6 (12) - 12/19 , Friuli Venezia Giulia 2 (2) - 3/5 , Toscana 3 (3) - 9/14 , Marche 2 (1) - 4/6 , Umbria 1 (1) - 2/3 , Lazio 3 (1) - 14/21 , Abruzzo 1 (1) - 3/5 , Puglia 2 (0) - 10/17 , Calabria 1 (0) - 5/8 , Sicilia 2 (0) - 12/19 , Sardegna 1(0) - 4/6 , Emilia Romagna 3 (6) - 11/17 , Campania 2 (0) - 14/22, Valle d'Aosta 0 (0) -1/1 , Molise 0 (0) - 1/2 , Basilicata 0 (0) - 1/2 % of Lega incumbents per region -> % of current Lega candidates Piemonte 35.2% -> 40% , Liguria 16.7% -> 25% , Lombardia 48.6% -> 39.1% , Trentino Aldo Adige 50% -> 50% , Veneto 63.2% -> 50% , Friuli Venezia Giulia 40% -> 50% , Toscana 21.4% -> 33.3% , Marche 16.7% -> 50% , Umbria 33.3% -> 50% , Lazio 4.8% -> 21.4% , Abruzzo 20% -> 33.3% , Puglia 0% -> 20% , Calabria 0% -> 20% , Sicilia 0% -> 16.7% , Sardegna 0% -> 25% , Emilia Romagna 35.3% -> 27.3% , Campania 0% -> 14.3% |
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Post by andrea on Aug 20, 2022 8:13:12 GMT
Raffaele La Regina (PD) withdraws his candidature (he was top of the list in Basilicata) after some online postings about Israel emerged yesterday (one of them being "What do you believe most: legitimacy of the State of Israel, aliens or Mauairedd's crumbling? And why precisely to the crumbling?").
Yesterday he apologized and Letta says it was ok. This morning he withdrew. Apparently more social media activities were "discovered" with comments also on other issues. He is 29 years old and was part of Letta's attempt to have some youth in winnable spots. He was close to former minister for the South Provenzano.
Yesterday PD also had to deal with a video of the head of the secretary of mayor of Rome in a furious verbale fight with another man (who is the brother of a MEP and supposed to be a candidate in next month's election). "Do you buy me? Me? He has to kneel down and apologize, otherwise I'll tell everyone what he told me. I'll kill them! I'll kill him! You must come here and apologize on your knees, otherwise I'll write what you asked me at the table tonight" and then I'll shoot you! I'll kill you. Five minutes, here on their knees, both of them", " Tell your brother! And to Adriano! "
He resigned. The MEP withdrew from standing next month.
Now they are saying they were fighting about football.....
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Post by rcronald on Aug 20, 2022 8:36:33 GMT
Raffaele La Regina (PD) withdraws his candidature (he was top of the list in Basilicata) after some online postings about Israel emerged yesterday (one of them being "What do you believe most: legitimacy of the State of Israel, aliens or Mauairedd's crumbling? And why precisely to the crumbling?"). Yesterday he apologized and Letta says it was ok. This morning he withdrew. Apparently more social media activities was "discovered" with comments also on other issues. He is 29 years old and was part of Letta's attempt to have some youth in winnable spots. He was close to former minister for the South Provenzano. Yesterday PD also had to deal with a video of the head of the secretary of mayor of Rome in a furious verbale fight with another man (who is the brother of a MEP and supposed to be a candidate in next month's election). "Do you buy me? Me? He has to kneel down and apologize, otherwise I'll tell everyone what he told me. I'll kill them! I'll kill him! You must come here and apologize on your knees, otherwise I'll write what you asked me at the table tonight" and then I'll shoot you! I'll kill you. Five minutes, here on their knees, both of them", " Tell your brother! And to Adriano! " He resigned. The MEP withdrew from standing next month. Now they are saying they were fighting about football..... Sounds like your average Lazio-Roma fan argument lol |
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Post by minionofmidas on Aug 20, 2022 8:41:54 GMT
Wth is "crumbling of Mauairedd"? I tried google and all I got was La Regina.
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Post by andrea on Aug 20, 2022 9:31:27 GMT
Wth is "crumbling of Mauairedd"? I tried google and all I got was La Regina. apparently a dish of a restaurant located in Avigliano, near Potenza. There is a local rivalry between Avigliano and Potenza |
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Post by minionofmidas on Aug 20, 2022 9:48:49 GMT
Wth is "crumbling of Mauairedd"? I tried google and all I got was La Regina. apparently a dish of a restaurant located in Avigliano, wut. Lol |
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Post by andrea on Aug 20, 2022 16:40:26 GMT
Last walzer of PD candidates
Enzo Amendola moves from #3 in Campania 01 list at the Senate to replace La Regina as #1 in Basilicata list at the House.
Amendola was under-secretary to the PM in Draghi's cabinet and minister for European Affairs in Conte II's cabinet. His previous slot was a risky position. Now he moves into a safe list position.
He tweeted "Enrico letta asked me to run as head at the House in Basilicata after the resignation of Raffaele La Regina. As always, my candidacy is at the service of our community. Thanks Raffaele, you have shown love for the Democratic Party. Now let's win the South. United "
Yes, it sounds pretty melodramatic.
Filippo Sensi replaces Amendola and keeps also #3 in Lazio 02 list.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Aug 24, 2022 12:01:52 GMT
Mrs.Meloni shared a video showing, how an Ukrainian woMan was raped by a man from Guinea.
Needless to say, that les miserables got hysterical and accused her of abusing it for AgitProp (would surely be also the case, if the rapist was a neoNazi...) and being a "racist". (For the ignorant idiots it cannot be true, that - for example - the MAOA-2 allel, which is correlated to agGression, is totally absent in the Sinids and nearly in the Europeans, but not so in Negrids and Arabians.)
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Post by rcronald on Aug 24, 2022 12:29:59 GMT
Mrs.Meloni shared a video showing, how an Ukrainian woMan was raped by a man from Guinea. Needless to say, that les miserables got hysterical and accused her of abusing it for AgitProp (would surely be also the case, if the rapist was a neoNazi...) and being a "racist". (For the ignorant idiots it cannot be true, that - for example - the MAOA-2 allel, which is correlated to agGression, is totally absent in the Sinids and nearly in the Europeans, but not so in Negrids and Arabians.) If they are triggered by that video then they would probably go ballistic if they saw the 09 and 13 Likud campaign ads and rhetoric on illegal immigration lol |
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Post by andrea on Aug 24, 2022 13:02:16 GMT
Somehow they managed to leave out the party... I think that's because they didn't bother to publish it on their own website. So you have to go in person on each corte d'appello to check what has been delivered. I am trying to find out the destiny of my Lega senator (who is not on the FPTP seat anymore because FDI got the new merged one) and I still haven't managed to find their full PR lists. I found the ones of my region in the local section of La Repubblica. |
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Post by rcronald on Aug 24, 2022 13:23:13 GMT
Somehow they managed to leave out the party... I think that's because they didn't bother to publish it on their own website. So you have to go in person on each corte d'appello to check what has been delivered. I am trying to find out the destiny of my Lega senator (who is not on the FPTP seat anymore because FDI got the new merged one) and I still haven't managed to find their full PR lists. I found the ones of my region in the local section of La Repubblica. 2 Lega constituencies got merged into 1 and Salvini gave it to Meloni? lol |
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