Italian general election 2022

[andrea]

Poll in today's Corriere

Brothers of Italy 23.3%
PD 23.2%
Lega 13.5%
M5S 11.3%
Forza Italia 9%
Calenda / +Europe 3.6%
Green + Left 3.4%
Italexit 3.1%
Italia Viva (Renzi) 2.3%
Article One 1.5%
Togeher for the Future (Di Maio) 1.3%

[Georg Ebner]

YouTrend has tried to make proJections of the FPTP-seats, with 3 scenarii:

[dizz]

I will be in the Red City that night & the following one.

[Georg Ebner]

Pollsters-perFormances parliamentary poll 2018:

"TermoMetro Politico" did best, but also with abErrations of at least 2.0% per polled party.
Of course, methodoLogies & partyScenery & mood & momentum will differ this time.

[andrea]

Toti's Italia al Centro (Italy in the center) and Lupi's Noi con L'Italia (We for Italy) will run in a joint list.
Joint list also for Coraggio (of Venice mayor Brugano) and UDC (Christian Democrat Union)
Both will be associated to the centre-right coalition.

PD did bilateral agreements with Azione (Calenda), Greens (Bonelli) and Italian Left (Fratoianni).
However, Calenda broke off today.


Ah, as I said, we have some FPTP and some PR seats. However, we have a single ballot paper. Lists must be linked to a FPTP candidate. More lists can be linked to the same FPTP candidate (hence coalitions).
So for small parties it is not enough to decide not to field FPTP candidates.
PD was trying to do bilateral deals with various small centrist and leftish outfits. It was not a proper coherent coalition because the small parties were not doing dealing between themselves. The basic idea was to run non-divisive candidates in FPTP constituencies (leaving them for party lists) and get the backing of everybody to said candidates (the great majority of them set to lose anyway).

[andrea]

Average of polls taken in the last 2 weeks (source: YouTrend)

FdI 23,4%
PD 22,8%
Lega 13,4%
M5S 10,4%
FI 8,0%
Az (Calenda)/+Eu 5,0%
Greens/Left 4,0%
Italexit 2,9%
IV (Renzi) 2,7%
Art.1-MDP (Speranza) 1,8%

[matureleft]

At the moment this is looking good for Putin, is it not? Both Salvini and Berlusconi have strong Russian ties.

[andrea]

+Europe is following Azione out of the alliance with PD.

Azione (Calenda) and Italia Viva (Renzi) are negotiating an alliance

A poll today was giving
centre-right 48.2% (Meloni 24.2. Lega 14 Silvio 8.9)
centre-left 29.3% (PD 22.3 Green/Left 3.9 +Europe 1.6 Di Maio 1.5)
M5S 10.6%
ItalExit 3.2%
Italia Viva 2.2%
Azione 2.0%
De Magistris' party 0.7%

[andrea]

this is for Devil Wincarnate

"SVP is looking for an "Italian" candidate for Bolzano-Bassa Atesina"

[Georg Ebner]

SondaggiBiDiMedia came out with proJections for the FPTP-seats:

[andrea]

The scenario we get is PD/+E/AVS/IC
Because Azione/+E split

[andrea]

Folklore time

Gina Lollobrigida is set to run in the Latina constituency for'Italia Sovrana e Popolare. Italia Sovrana e Poplari is a joint list made up of Again Italy, Communist Party, Reconquer Italy, No Draghi Committees, Civil Action, Republican Revival and Italy United.

[minionofmidas]

Aug 13, 2022 17:16:08 GMT andrea said:

Folklore time

Gina Lollobrigida is set to run in the Latina constituency for'Italia Sovrana e Popolare. Italia Sovrana e Poplari is a joint list made up of Again Italy, Communist Party, Reconquer Italy, No Draghi Committees, Civil Action, Republican Revival and Italy United.

She's 95.

[andrea]

Aug 13, 2022 19:03:27 GMT minionofmidas said:

Aug 13, 2022 17:16:08 GMT andrea said:

Folklore time

Gina Lollobrigida is set to run in the Latina constituency for'Italia Sovrana e Popolare. Italia Sovrana e Poplari is a joint list made up of Again Italy, Communist Party, Reconquer Italy, No Draghi Committees, Civil Action, Republican Revival and Italy United.

She's 95.

In a bitter legal fight with her son who accuses her assistant of circumvention of incapable.

[finsobruce]

Aug 13, 2022 20:21:12 GMT andrea said:

Aug 13, 2022 19:03:27 GMT minionofmidas said:

She's 95.

In a bitter legal fight with her son who accuses her assistant of circumvention of incapable.

You mean using her money when she's not capable of making decisions?

[andrea]

Aug 13, 2022 20:24:44 GMT finsobruce said:

Aug 13, 2022 20:21:12 GMT andrea said:

In a bitter legal fight with her son who accuses her assistant of circumvention of incapable.

You mean using her money when she's not capable of making decisions?

Yes.
Her lawyer in this affair is Antonio Ingroia who was the prosecutor in Palermo and in 2013 led the far left coalition.

[jamie]

Aug 13, 2022 17:16:08 GMT andrea said:

Folklore time

Gina Lollobrigida is set to run in the Latina constituency for'Italia Sovrana e Popolare. Italia Sovrana e Poplari is a joint list made up of Again Italy, Communist Party, Reconquer Italy, No Draghi Committees, Civil Action, Republican Revival and Italy United.

Any chance of winning (I presume not)?

[andrea]

Aug 13, 2022 22:02:54 GMT jamie said:

Aug 13, 2022 17:16:08 GMT andrea said:

Folklore time

Gina Lollobrigida is set to run in the Latina constituency for'Italia Sovrana e Popolare. Italia Sovrana e Poplari is a joint list made up of Again Italy, Communist Party, Reconquer Italy, No Draghi Committees, Civil Action, Republican Revival and Italy United.

Any chance of winning (I presume not)?

No. That party shouldn't get 1% nationwide and Latina is a good constituency for the right. MSI used to be strong there.

[Devil Wincarnate]

Aug 13, 2022 17:16:08 GMT andrea said:

Folklore time

Gina Lollobrigida is set to run in the Latina constituency for'Italia Sovrana e Popolare. Italia Sovrana e Poplari is a joint list made up of Again Italy, Communist Party, Reconquer Italy, No Draghi Committees, Civil Action, Republican Revival and Italy United.

Blimey. Any sign of La Cicciolina?

[Georg Ebner]

andrea Are the seatSharings within the blocs already out?
Shockingly it.wikipedia does not even have anything on the election so far.