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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 17:43:31 GMT
Richey Edwards of the Manic Street Preachers.
I have wondered about this one. Was he ever actually declared dead? Does it happen automatically after a time when someone disappears without requiring any actual evidence of death?
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Post by islington on Jul 18, 2022 18:25:17 GMT
Richey Edwards of the Manic Street Preachers.
I have wondered about this one. Was he ever actually declared dead? Does it happen automatically after a time when someone disappears without requiring any actual evidence of death?
If a family member has disappeared for seven years and there has been no indication during that time that they are still alive, I believe you can apply to have them declared legally dead. This would then allow the person's property to be inherited, their spouse to remarry, &c.
At least, this was the traditional arrangement but it may have been tinkered with because politicians can't resist 'improving' long-established rules.
I believe there have been a few cases over the years in which someone declared dead in this way has turned up alive.
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Post by greenhert on Jul 18, 2022 19:47:24 GMT
There's definitely some fun to be had with the idea of Lee Harvey Oswald really being alive.
It was certainly convenient for him to be dead. But I'm not convinced the establishment would fake his death and go to the effort of keeping him alive with a different identity for years and years, given how young he was at the time.
He'd be, what, mid-80s now if alive?
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Post by sirbenjamin on Jul 18, 2022 19:50:08 GMT
It was certainly convenient for him to be dead. But I'm not convinced the establishment would fake his death and go to the effort of keeping him alive with a different identity for years and years, given how young he was at the time.
He'd be, what, mid-80s now if alive?
83 to be precise.
Which is of course my lucky number.
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Post by Wisconsin on Jul 18, 2022 19:50:28 GMT
Malaysian Airlines Flight 370
The only way I can see something like this is if it's possible to survive going through a black hole/wormhole type thing and be able to sustain a life on 'the other side' for any length of time but without the ability to communicate.
Getting deep into sci-fi territory really.
Your wormhole could simply have moved them forward in time. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 18, 2022 20:54:54 GMT
usual-mirror held under nostrils What would we see in that mirror other than ourselves? |
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Jul 18, 2022 21:03:18 GMT
usual-mirror held under nostrils What would we see in that mirror other than ourselves? I am just pleased I don't have anything emotionally invested in this leadership process like some posters! |
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Jul 18, 2022 21:03:58 GMT
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jul 18, 2022 21:15:13 GMT
I have wondered about this one. Was he ever actually declared dead? Does it happen automatically after a time when someone disappears without requiring any actual evidence of death?
If a family member has disappeared for seven years and there has been no indication during that time that they are still alive, I believe you can apply to have them declared legally dead. This would then allow the person's property to be inherited, their spouse to remarry, &c.
At least, this was the traditional arrangement but it may have been tinkered with because politicians can't resist 'improving' long-established rules.
I believe there have been a few cases over the years in which someone declared dead in this way has turned up alive.
Canoe Man. (It's showing on one of the ITV channels.) |
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 18, 2022 21:21:09 GMT
Stop it Bev. Or I'll take back those Chick Corea records. |
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Post by stb12 on Jul 18, 2022 22:06:10 GMT
Shergar
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Post by sirbenjamin on Jul 18, 2022 22:33:15 GMT
Possible. He'd be about my age, and the oldest horse on record lived into his 60s I think.
If he made a comeback and won some races again that would make for a great story/film.
Then a sequel where he takes on the IRA: 'He came back from the dead. Now he's coming back for revenge in his toughest challenge yet. It's Shergar II: The Irish Sweeps'.
And so on...
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Post by sirbenjamin on Jul 18, 2022 22:39:32 GMT
I'm thinking along the lines of Gaddafi, Bin Laden and those for who it was political convenient to suddenly be 'dead', without much explanation and with no post mortem and no corpse viewing etc. I wouldn't put it past the US Government/CIA/FBI/whoever to arrange something dodgy that looks and sounds superficially convincing that didn't need a whole lot of evidence.
That former Swaziland PM who 'died' of COVID looked a bit suspicious. I wouldn't be surprised if he turned up alive at some point soon.
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Post by Sandy on Jul 18, 2022 23:01:58 GMT
The Romanov princesses
(Or at least descendants)
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Post by johnloony on Jul 19, 2022 10:57:11 GMT
That should be in the Not Yet Dead Thread, not the Not Dead Anymore Thread. |
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Post by john07 on Jul 19, 2022 17:01:50 GMT
Possible. He'd be about my age, and the oldest horse on record lived into his 60s I think. If he made a comeback and won some races again that would make for a great story/film. Then a sequel where he takes on the IRA: 'He came back from the dead. Now he's coming back for revenge in his toughest challenge yet. It's Shergar II: The Irish Sweeps'. And so on...
I was thinking of Shergar: the dog food era! |
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Post by therealriga on Jul 20, 2022 10:59:38 GMT
Over the years there's been various fanciful ideas about Hitler and/or Elvis not actually being dead. I'd probably discount those two by now, but which well known personage, believed now to be deceased, do we think is the most likely to turn out to actually be alive? Hitler breaking age records and still being alive at age 123 would be a shock, yes. It's hugely unlikely he survived the bunker. He was paranoid about ending up in Soviet hands and experiencing what he would have regarded as a show trial. Even if he somehow did escape to an Argentinian valley, given his health he'd have likely died in the 1950s. Elvis could theoretically be around at age 87, yes. But again his health wasn't that great in his later years, so even if he'd faked his death, living till age 60 (I think he was 42 when he died) probably wouldn't have happened. William Hill did take a bet about 20 years ago on a UFO piloted by Elvis crashing beside the Loch Ness monster at 14 million to 1, which are around the same odds of winning the national lottery jackpot. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jul 20, 2022 11:22:39 GMT
I'm thinking along the lines of Gaddafi, Bin Laden and those for who it was political convenient to suddenly be 'dead', without much explanation and with no post mortem and no corpse viewing etc The deaths of both of those have been attested by multiple fully credible sources. There are indeed examples of high profile figures elsewhere that are rather murkier though. |
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Post by greenhert on Jul 20, 2022 13:10:54 GMT
The Romanov princesses (Or at least descendants) That theory was debunked years ago. |
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