South Shields

[greatkingrat]

I assume Labour will call this for May 2nd in which case it will be difficult for UKIP or anyone else to gain much traction with many activists concentrating on their own local council elections.

[dizz]

Mar 26, 2013 22:00:08 GMT AdminSTB said:

Dok, sometimes I wonder if your polemic hatred of Labour has just stemmed solely from the Preston bus station decision, because you never used to be such a right-wing attack dog.

He's never forgiven Labour for losing that Riversway Council election.

[Richard Allen]

Mar 26, 2013 22:06:09 GMT greatkingrat said:

I assume Labour will call this for May 2nd in which case it will be difficult for UKIP or anyone else to gain much traction with many activists concentrating on their own local council elections.

Actually my fear is that if this is called for May 2nd we will end up wasting resources here at the expense of our county council campaign.

[Deleted]

Mar 26, 2013 22:00:08 GMT AdminSTB said:

Dok, sometimes I wonder if your polemic hatred of Labour has just stemmed solely from the Preston bus station decision, because you never used to be such a right-wing attack dog.

I got shouted down the first time I suggested Dok was going native in coalition with us, seems everyone is in agreement.

[Deleted]

Mar 26, 2013 22:06:09 GMT greatkingrat said:

I assume Labour will call this for May 2nd in which case it will be difficult for UKIP or anyone else to gain much traction with many activists concentrating on their own local council elections.

Yes, the timing of this resignation is interesting. How long had this been planned? Was it deliberately timed to coincide with the council elections for any reason?

[The Bishop]

Mar 26, 2013 21:05:46 GMT Richard Allen said:

Mar 26, 2013 21:00:08 GMT swanarcadian said:

It's a pity, almost a tragedy, for the Labour Party that he's going if this story is confirmed. He has considerable leadership potential and would have undoubtedly made a more formidable opponent to us than his brother. A career cut brutally short.
He's taking a charity job in the USA apparently, which is reminiscent of Bryan Gould's departure to New Zealand in 1994.

His political talents have always been vastly overrated.

This.

Thank you for your honesty, at least - I am finding the insincere crocodile tears of Labour's opponents on here so predictable that they are actually quite amusing

(for the record, let me state again that I voted for DM as first choice - even though I "really" wanted to put his brother first; glad he won anyway now)

[Pimpernal]

Mar 26, 2013 22:07:43 GMT Richard Allen said:

Mar 26, 2013 22:06:09 GMT greatkingrat said:

I assume Labour will call this for May 2nd in which case it will be difficult for UKIP or anyone else to gain much traction with many activists concentrating on their own local council elections.

Actually my fear is that if this is called for May 2nd we will end up wasting resources here at the expense of our county council campaign.

And that would be a bad thing why?
I used to agree with your viewpoint on this... but since UKIP have been focussing the national team on local elections I have another view on things...

[Andrew_S]

Mar 26, 2013 22:17:04 GMT swanarcadian said:

Mar 26, 2013 22:06:09 GMT greatkingrat said:

I assume Labour will call this for May 2nd in which case it will be difficult for UKIP or anyone else to gain much traction with many activists concentrating on their own local council elections.

Yes, the timing of this resignation is interesting. How long had this been planned? Was it deliberately timed to coincide with the council elections for any reason?

Yes I expect David Miliband and Labour officials have organised the whole thing to take place at what they regard to be the best time for the party and for the election to be held on the same day as the local elections.

[Deleted]

I wasn't exactly cheering for Blair or Brown, you know =/

[Davıd Boothroyd]

Mar 26, 2013 22:25:01 GMT Andrew_S said:

Yes I expect David Miliband and Labour officials have organised the whole thing to take place at what they regard to be the best time for the party and for the election to be held on the same day as the local elections.

There are no local elections in South Tyneside on 2 May.

[Deleted]

Mar 26, 2013 22:22:48 GMT The Bishop said:

Mar 26, 2013 21:05:46 GMT Richard Allen said:

His political talents have always been vastly overrated.

This.

Thank you for your honesty, at least - I am finding the insincere crocodile tears of Labour's opponents on here so predictable that they are actually quite amusing

(for the record, let me state again that I voted for DM as first choice - even though I "really" wanted to put his brother first; glad he won anyway now)

Oh, I shed no tears for him. I just think the Labour Party would have been better off with him as leader.

[Deleted]

RT @msmithsonpb Ladbrokes South Shields By-election odds: 1/25 Lab, 20/1 UKIP, 50/1 Cons, 100/1 LD

[andrea]

As David said, by-election selections are never AWS. In Rotheram men were long-listed but the NEC panel thought, in their divine design, that they were usuitable. I think Rotherham is the only by-election selection in recent times where just women were shortlisted.

In Oldham Debbie Abrhams beated Riaz Ahmed and Abdul Jabbar (she tied with one of them. Can't recall which one and won selection because she was ahead in first preferences).
In Feltham & Heston, there were 2 men and 2 women.

As for locals, the Malcolms may be interested. Iain is linked with Sovereign Strategy lobbying company. Ed just got 0 votes in Middlesbrough selection. There some women South Tyneside Cllrs who recently tried in various selections (Carlisle, Redcar) but I think they are pretty low profile.

[Deleted]

I'm backing #AnnunziataReesMogg4SouthShields

[Andrew_S]

Ladbrokes market up:

Lab 1.04
UKIP 21
Con 51
LD 101
BNP 101

sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/Politics-c110000037

[marksenior]

I have no inside information but it is possible that the Lib Dems will not contest the byelection . They may leave it to the old Liberal Party as they do most of the wards in this parliamentary seat at local elections . There is also the Progressives who have won one ward in the very recent past and a number of Independents who have also been elected in recent years in some of the wards .

[mboy]

That would be a very strange thing to do, IMO.

[Deleted]

I no longer have access to Microsoft Excel, so I've found the next best thing:

[Andrew_S]

Dan Hodges on Newsnight...

[andrea]

2012 locals in South Shields

Beacon and Bents: Lab 43.48% Ind Khan 35.6% Con 6.72% Ind 5.71% BNP 4.77% Lib 1.94% Ind 1.79% Lab gain from Ind
Biddick and All Saints: Lab 67.4% Ind 17.85% BNP 6.01% Con 4.41% Lib 4.29%
Cleadon Park: Lab 45.89% Ind 44.71% Con 9.4%
Harton: Lab 59.53% Progressives 26.43% Con 9.96% Lib 4.08% Lab gain from Prog
Horsley Hill: Lab 53.28% Ind 36.31% Con 7.72% Lib 2.69% Lab gain from Ind
Simonside and Rekendyke: Lab 64.74% Lib 12.72 BNP 11.43% Con 11.1%
West Park: Lab 49.66 Progressives 34.35% Con 10.05% Green 5.94 Lab gain from Progr
Westoe: Lab 47.25 Ind 29.8 Con 12.36 Prog 7.7 Lib 2.89 Lab gain from Ind
Whitburn and Marsden: Lab 76.19 Con 23.81
Whiteleas: Lab 56.26 Ind 30.08 BNP 8.81 Ind 5.9 Con 2.95 Lab gain from Ind