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Post by finsobruce on May 14, 2022 12:02:27 GMT
Neil Parish standing as an Independent gets a mention in the Times today, ‘ it is an option for me, and one that I could consider. At the moment, I’m taking soundings’, ‘ I have the financial support of powerful backers within the farming community. Don’t forget I have fought 5 local elections, 2 European elections, and three or four or five parliamentary elections. So I know how elections work. I’m a grassroots politician, made my own way through the ranks, so I know how to fight an election if I wanted to.’ Is that an actual quote or an imaginary think bubble? |
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Post by andrewp on May 14, 2022 12:14:13 GMT
Neil Parish standing as an Independent gets a mention in the Times today, ‘ it is an option for me, and one that I could consider. At the moment, I’m taking soundings’, ‘ I have the financial support of powerful backers within the farming community. Don’t forget I have fought 5 local elections, 2 European elections, and three or four or five parliamentary elections. So I know how elections work. I’m a grassroots politician, made my own way through the ranks, so I know how to fight an election if I wanted to.’ Is that an actual quote or an imaginary think bubble? An actual quote. Speaking to the Telegraphs podcast Chopper politics ( never heard of it!) |
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Post by finsobruce on May 14, 2022 12:15:07 GMT
Is that an actual quote or an imaginary think bubble? An actual quote. Speaking to the Telegraphs podcast Chopper politics ( never heard of it!) Is Chopper politics aimed at helicopter parents? |
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Post by johnloony on May 14, 2022 17:58:39 GMT
If he is “taking soundings” then he will presumably hear the sounds that say “no!” and “don’t!” and “don’t be a fool” and WTF
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Post by tonyhill on May 14, 2022 18:38:13 GMT
I'm puzzled that he knows how many local elections he has fought but not how many parliamentary ones.
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Post by gwynthegriff on May 14, 2022 18:46:56 GMT
Neil Parish standing as an Independent gets a mention in the Times today, ‘ it is an option for me, and one that I could consider. At the moment, I’m taking soundings’, ‘ I have the financial support of powerful backers within the farming community. Don’t forget I have fought 5 local elections, 2 European elections, and three or four or five parliamentary elections. So I know how elections work. I’m a grassroots politician, made my own way through the ranks, so I know how to fight an election if I wanted to.’ Hang on, I thought all farmers were paupers.  |
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Post by andrewp on May 14, 2022 18:52:05 GMT
I'm puzzled that he knows how many local elections he has fought but not how many parliamentary ones. The last 3 general elections were so soon after each other, that they probably merged in his mind! He lost 2 of his 5 local elections too. |
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Post by minionofmidas on May 14, 2022 19:15:25 GMT
I'm puzzled that he knows how many local elections he has fought but not how many parliamentary ones. We know how important he felt his parliamentary duties to be. |
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Post by aargauer on May 14, 2022 19:31:40 GMT
yeah, great and all that. You may well win the by-election. And others. But still, all you are is the dustbin vote for NOTA So the limit of your ambitions is to get 50 seats and fluke balance of power, then not know what to do with it Presumably piss off their new core demographic (rich remainers) by siding with labour. Who will then have to decide who they hate the least. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on May 15, 2022 10:41:53 GMT
Neil Parish standing as an Independent gets a mention in the Times today, ‘ it is an option for me, and one that I could consider. At the moment, I’m taking soundings’, ‘ I have the financial support of powerful backers within the farming community. Don’t forget I have fought 5 local elections, 2 European elections, and three or four or five parliamentary elections. So I know how elections work. I’m a grassroots politician, made my own way through the ranks, so I know how to fight an election if I wanted to.’ Sounds like he has a powerful combine behind him. |
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Post by mattb on May 15, 2022 10:51:02 GMT
yeah, great and all that. You may well win the by-election. And others. But still, all you are is the dustbin vote for NOTA So the limit of your ambitions is to get 50 seats and fluke balance of power, then not know what to do with it Presumably piss off their new core demographic (rich remainers) by siding with labour. Who will then have to decide who they hate the least. Rich remainers would be less embarrassed to have Starmer as PM than Boris. |
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Post by finsobruce on May 15, 2022 11:10:25 GMT
Neil Parish standing as an Independent gets a mention in the Times today, ‘ it is an option for me, and one that I could consider. At the moment, I’m taking soundings’, ‘ I have the financial support of powerful backers within the farming community. Don’t forget I have fought 5 local elections, 2 European elections, and three or four or five parliamentary elections. So I know how elections work. I’m a grassroots politician, made my own way through the ranks, so I know how to fight an election if I wanted to.’ Sounds like he has a powerful combine behind him. You reap what you sow. |
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Post by stodge on May 15, 2022 11:17:16 GMT
This is interesting.
IF Parish stands as an Independent and the Conservative Party stands a candidate, Parish and any Conservatives who work for him would be automatically expelled from the Conservative Party. Now, there may well be a pro-Parish faction within the Tiverton & Honiton local Conservative association (or there may not) but it seems the ultimate act of folly to stand against the official Conservative candidate.
If, of course, there is one...
The other possibility is the Conservatives don't stand a candidate and Parish stands as an Independent. This was basically what happened in Richmond Park when Goldsmith stood down over the third runway at Heathrow. The Conservatives didn't stand an official candidate but any number of activists went in to help Goldsmith which of course they were perfectly entitled to do in the absence of an official Conservative candidate.
That makes life harder for the LDs and easier for the Conservatives. IF Parish wins, the LD charge is blunted and after a decent period Parish is re-admitted to the Party (as of course was Goldsmith). If Parish loses, the LDs celebrate and the Conservatives can just shrug it off - Parish will be finished politically anyway.
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Post by The Bishop on May 15, 2022 11:49:22 GMT
Presumably piss off their new core demographic (rich remainers) by siding with labour. Who will then have to decide who they hate the least. Rich remainers would be less embarrassed to have Starmer as PM than Boris. Yes, especially since a Labour/LibDem arrangement would be likely to move this country closer to the EU again (even if rejoining will still be off the agenda for a while) |
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Post by aargauer on May 15, 2022 12:45:12 GMT
Presumably piss off their new core demographic (rich remainers) by siding with labour. Who will then have to decide who they hate the least. Rich remainers would be less embarrassed to have Starmer as PM than Boris. Perhaps, but Richmond would rather be embarrassed than pay tax! |
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Post by grahammurray on May 15, 2022 13:04:36 GMT
Rich remainers would be less embarrassed to have Starmer as PM than Boris. Perhaps, but Richmond would rather be embarrassed than pay tax! You mean like the Chancellor, his wife and the Secretary of State for Health? |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 15, 2022 13:10:47 GMT
Rich remainers would be less embarrassed to have Starmer as PM than Boris. Perhaps, but Richmond would rather be embarrassed than pay tax! Well quite. They elected Jenny Tonge. Rich remainers in OxWAB elect Layla Moran and rich remainers in Bath elect Wera Hobhouse. They aren't worried about being represented by embarassments.. |
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Post by stodge on May 15, 2022 14:10:19 GMT
Perhaps, but Richmond would rather be embarrassed than pay tax! Well quite. They elected Jenny Tonge. Rich remainers in OxWAB elect Layla Moran and rich remainers in Bath elect Wera Hobhouse. They aren't worried about being represented by embarassments.. You're talking about "embarrassments" in a thread about a Conservative MP who was watching pornography in the Commons chamber. That's the very definition of "embarrassment", wouldn't you think? You may not like Layla Moran or Wera Hobhouse and that's your right but it's not in the same league... |
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Post by andrew111 on May 15, 2022 14:51:13 GMT
This is interesting. IF Parish stands as an Independent and the Conservative Party stands a candidate, Parish and any Conservatives who work for him would be automatically expelled from the Conservative Party. Now, there may well be a pro-Parish faction within the Tiverton & Honiton local Conservative association (or there may not) but it seems the ultimate act of folly to stand against the official Conservative candidate. If, of course, there is one... The other possibility is the Conservatives don't stand a candidate and Parish stands as an Independent. This was basically what happened in Richmond Park when Goldsmith stood down over the third runway at Heathrow. The Conservatives didn't stand an official candidate but any number of activists went in to help Goldsmith which of course they were perfectly entitled to do in the absence of an official Conservative candidate. That makes life harder for the LDs and easier for the Conservatives. IF Parish wins, the LD charge is blunted and after a decent period Parish is re-admitted to the Party (as of course was Goldsmith). If Parish loses, the LDs celebrate and the Conservatives can just shrug it off - Parish will be finished politically anyway. Well, Goldsmith kept a well publicised promise, and did nothing wrong other than break the Tory whip. The Tories did not get any bad publicity for not standing against him. Parish has resigned because he was caught viewing pornography on his phone. Various high profile Tories (mostly female) condemned this. It is hard to see how they can credibly give him tacit support as an Indy candidate, without a media shit storm. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 15, 2022 15:02:05 GMT
Well quite. They elected Jenny Tonge. Rich remainers in OxWAB elect Layla Moran and rich remainers in Bath elect Wera Hobhouse. They aren't worried about being represented by embarassments.. You're talking about "embarrassments" in a thread about a Conservative MP who was watching pornography in the Commons chamber. That's the very definition of "embarrassment", wouldn't you think? You may not like Layla Moran or Wera Hobhouse and that's your right but it's not in the same league... Not in the same league or of the same type, but also irrelevant to the specific post I was replying to. |
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