sirbenjamin
IFP
True fame is reading your name written in graffiti, but without the words 'is a wanker' after it.
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Post by sirbenjamin on Jun 23, 2022 16:23:10 GMT
“I was a paid-up member of the Conservative Party and there’s no way I can vote for the Tories in the state they are in. They’ve lurched to the Right.”
Clearly from neither Tiverton nor Honiton but another fucking planet...
'You cannot be serious'! This Conservative Party is 'Right Wing'!!? It is in the most left wing condition it has ever been.
Exactly. Where do they find these people?
There are many reasons to criticise the party right now, but a 'lurch to the Right' isn't one of them.
I've long suspected that a lot of people who get interviewed by the media claiming to be lapsed Tories are anything but. Likewise the 'balanced' audiences on Question Time etc. Say they're Tory to get on in the interest of 'balance' but they're barely undercover lefties.
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timmullen1
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 23, 2022 16:39:49 GMT
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graham
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Post by graham on Jun 23, 2022 18:04:38 GMT
I cannot imagine that he will now last for very long in that position! |
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timmullen1
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Post by timmullen1 on Jun 23, 2022 18:08:24 GMT
I cannot imagine that he will now last for very long in that position! Depends on the set up; Newcastle Conservative Club was by the mid-80’s completely independent of the Conservative Party, and indeed the Co-op Party used to retire there post meeting because the beer was about 5p cheaper, and it had an excellent quality snooker table. |
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Post by batman on Jun 23, 2022 19:32:17 GMT
I cannot imagine that he will now last for very long in that position! Depends on the set up; Newcastle Conservative Club was by the mid-80’s completely independent of the Conservative Party, and indeed the Co-op Party used to retire there post meeting because the beer was about 5p cheaper, and it had an excellent quality snooker table. many Conservative Clubs are entirely independent of the Conservative Party now. So much so that a friend of mine, who is a Labour councillor in a neighbouring borough, had her 50th birthday bash in the local Conservative Club. Most of the council's ruling Labour Group seemed to be there. |
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Post by aargauer on Jun 23, 2022 19:42:25 GMT
Depends on the set up; Newcastle Conservative Club was by the mid-80’s completely independent of the Conservative Party, and indeed the Co-op Party used to retire there post meeting because the beer was about 5p cheaper, and it had an excellent quality snooker table. many Conservative Clubs are entirely independent of the Conservative Party now. So much so that a friend of mine, who is a Labour councillor in a neighbouring borough, had her 50th birthday bash in the local Conservative Club. Most of the council's ruling Labour Group seemed to be there. If Newcastle Labour club are political they keep it very quiet. |
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john07
Labour & Co-operative
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Post by john07 on Jun 23, 2022 20:14:49 GMT
I cannot imagine that he will now last for very long in that position! Depends on the set up; Newcastle Conservative Club was by the mid-80’s completely independent of the Conservative Party, and indeed the Co-op Party used to retire there post meeting because the beer was about 5p cheaper, and it had an excellent quality snooker table. It sounds like Cheadle Hulme Conservative Club. My father was a member for years in order to use the snooker table. He told me that one of the committee members was a Communist. |
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Post by greenhert on Jun 23, 2022 21:01:53 GMT
Polls have now closed. When can the result be expected? With only 8 candidates compared to Wakefield's 15, it should come earlier.
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peterl
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Monarchic Technocratic Localist
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Post by peterl on Jun 23, 2022 21:02:52 GMT
Polls have now closed. When can the result be expected? With only 8 candidates compared to Wakefield's 15, it should come earlier. OTOH, its a more rural seat so could take longer to gather in all the ballot boxes, plus I would say the chance of a recount is probably greater than Wakefield. Also posting this here as well in case anyone missed it in the other thread. Live blog covering both seats here |
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Post by stb12 on Jun 23, 2022 21:05:10 GMT
When do the rumours start?
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peterl
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Post by peterl on Jun 23, 2022 21:06:09 GMT
When do the rumours start? Already have. On the BBC blog: |
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Post by willpower3 on Jun 23, 2022 21:11:50 GMT
I don't really get post-poll closing expectations management. The result will be known in a few hours, why not just give your honest assessment of what you think the results will be?
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Post by greenhert on Jun 23, 2022 21:11:58 GMT
Apparently the declaration of the result may come as late as 4am....
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Post by frankyank on Jun 23, 2022 21:14:06 GMT
Apparently the declaration of the result may come as late as 4am.... One of the few times it pays to be a British election watcher in the states! |
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Post by chorleyboy on Jun 23, 2022 21:16:42 GMT
With only 8 candidates compared to Wakefield's 15, it should come earlier. That should not make that much difference as each vote still has to put in the right box. |
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Post by willpower3 on Jun 23, 2022 21:17:56 GMT
I've already seen the first idiot asking if there are exit polls.
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Post by batman on Jun 23, 2022 21:20:47 GMT
many Conservative Clubs are entirely independent of the Conservative Party now. So much so that a friend of mine, who is a Labour councillor in a neighbouring borough, had her 50th birthday bash in the local Conservative Club. Most of the council's ruling Labour Group seemed to be there. If Newcastle Labour club are political they keep it very quiet. Battersea Labour Club too. |
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Post by greenhert on Jun 23, 2022 21:22:52 GMT
Polls have now closed. When can the result be expected? With only 8 candidates compared to Wakefield's 15, it should come earlier. Also posting this here as well in case anyone missed it in the other thread. Live blog covering both seats hereLet us see which factors are more significant. Pairings of rural and urban parliamentary by-elections are very rare indeed. |
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Post by aargauer on Jun 23, 2022 21:23:13 GMT
If Newcastle Labour club are political they keep it very quiet. Battersea Labour Club too. I had a pint in there while pretending to campaign in 2018 (for appearances sake I was supposed to canvass once in the ward I stood in!) |
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Tony Otim
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Suffering from Brexistential Despair
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Post by Tony Otim on Jun 23, 2022 21:55:01 GMT
I don't really get post-poll closing expectations management. The result will be known in a few hours, why not just give your honest assessment of what you think the results will be? Preparing the ground for spinning the result |
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