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Post by carlton43 on Jun 10, 2022 12:02:44 GMT
The times has done its ‘ find some voters’ bit here in todays edition, Those they found. Jane Barnes, 90, always voting Conservative, but will be voting Lib Dem , doesn’t like Boris, would like Jeremy Hunt to be leader Diana Norris, 82, usually votes Conservative, but will be voting Lib Dem. Boris is so scruffy, Theresa May and John Major were beautifully dressed’ Nick Reed 64, Conservative voter, will be voting Conservative, believes the media are deceiving the public on party gate. Elizabeth Grise, 72, Used to vote Conservative but has stopped voting. Johnson epitomises one rule for me, one rule for everyone else. Debbie Light 59, Debbie Lloyd 60. Conservative voters Bored of partygate, will probably not vote this time. Dont like the behaviour of politicians. I reckon the Conservatives will go from getting 5 votes to 1 out of those 6 people. I imagine they’d get 5 again with a different leader at the next election. Hmm. The youngest is 59... Yes. That is terribly young! But surely her opinion could be quite valid? |
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Post by yellowperil on Jun 10, 2022 12:22:48 GMT
Hmm. The youngest is 59... Yes. That is terribly young! But surely his opinion could be quite valid? Are you sure you've got your pronouns right? Terribly important, these days, you know - or do you know something about Debbie that the rest of us haven't yet caught up with? |
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Post by jamie on Jun 10, 2022 12:57:21 GMT
The times has done its ‘ find some voters’ bit here in todays edition, Those they found. Jane Barnes, 90, always voting Conservative, but will be voting Lib Dem , doesn’t like Boris, would like Jeremy Hunt to be leaderDiana Norris, 82, usually votes Conservative, but will be voting Lib Dem. Boris is so scruffy, Theresa May and John Major were beautifully dressed’ Nick Reed 64, Conservative voter, will be voting Conservative, believes the media are deceiving the public on party gate. Elizabeth Grise, 72, Used to vote Conservative but has stopped voting. Johnson epitomises one rule for me, one rule for everyone else. Debbie Light 59, Debbie Lloyd 60. Conservative voters Bored of partygate, will probably not vote this time. Dont like the behaviour of politicians. If 1/6 of your sample is a person who goes out of their way to say Jeremy Hunt should be prime minister, then you ain’t even trying to be representative. Beyond the fact no normal person would remember and be able to volunteer his name, he’s not exactly massively popular is he? |
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Post by andrewp on Jun 10, 2022 13:04:30 GMT
The times has done its ‘ find some voters’ bit here in todays edition, Those they found. Jane Barnes, 90, always voting Conservative, but will be voting Lib Dem , doesn’t like Boris, would like Jeremy Hunt to be leaderDiana Norris, 82, usually votes Conservative, but will be voting Lib Dem. Boris is so scruffy, Theresa May and John Major were beautifully dressed’ Nick Reed 64, Conservative voter, will be voting Conservative, believes the media are deceiving the public on party gate. Elizabeth Grise, 72, Used to vote Conservative but has stopped voting. Johnson epitomises one rule for me, one rule for everyone else. Debbie Light 59, Debbie Lloyd 60. Conservative voters Bored of partygate, will probably not vote this time. Dont like the behaviour of politicians. If 1/6 of your sample is a person who goes out of their way to say Jeremy Hunt should be prime minister, then you ain’t even trying to be representative. Beyond the fact no normal person would remember and be able to volunteer his name, he’s not exactly massively popular is he? Jane is a 90 year retired antiques dealer who first joined the Young Conservatives in 1948 and was found in Honiton High Street. I can almost picture her! |
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Post by WestCountryRadical on Jun 10, 2022 21:58:37 GMT
Two polls for Wakefield and none for here is very disappointing.
It's about the time that the Lib Dems release some 'internal polling data', but that should be treated with scepticism, as it's only being done to set the narrative that it's very close, and was way off the final result in their last two by-election triumphs.
If they don't release data, are we to assume their current canvass stats don't suit the narrative?
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Post by grahammurray on Jun 10, 2022 23:16:39 GMT
Two polls for Wakefield and none for here is very disappointing. It's about the time that the Lib Dems release some 'internal polling data', but that should be treated with scepticism, as it's only being done to set the narrative that it's very close, and was way off the final result in their last two by-election triumphs. If they don't release data, are we to assume their current canvass stats don't suit the narrative? By 'way off' I assume you mean it underplayed the party's final result by quite a bit. Unlike the data released by the Conservatives and, esp, the Labour Party which were wildly optimistic. |
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Post by WestCountryRadical on Jun 11, 2022 20:55:58 GMT
Two polls for Wakefield and none for here is very disappointing. It's about the time that the Lib Dems release some 'internal polling data', but that should be treated with scepticism, as it's only being done to set the narrative that it's very close, and was way off the final result in their last two by-election triumphs. If they don't release data, are we to assume their current canvass stats don't suit the narrative? By 'way off' I assume you mean it underplayed the party's final result by quite a bit. Unlike the data released by the Conservatives and, esp, the Labour Party which were wildly optimistic. Exactly. The purpose of releasing the data was to suggest that it's a close race and people should vote Lib Dem, rather than to give us an accurate poll. If they don't release any data, I would surmise their canvassing shows them way ahead, and doesn't fit that narrative. (This is assuming they don't just make up the figures!) |
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Post by kevinf on Jun 11, 2022 21:25:50 GMT
A quick observation from canvassing in Tiverton today - I was very surprised how much the Labour vote was holding up. This may not be the case come polling day, but if I was a Lib Dem who’d seen our (Labour’s) figures from today, I’d be worried. Only one day, in one town, so may well not be representative, but surprised me enough to post it here.
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Post by grahammurray on Jun 11, 2022 21:42:34 GMT
By 'way off' I assume you mean it underplayed the party's final result by quite a bit. Unlike the data released by the Conservatives and, esp, the Labour Party which were wildly optimistic. Exactly. The purpose of releasing the data was to suggest that it's a close race and people should vote Lib Dem, rather than to give us an accurate poll. If they don't release any data, I would surmise their canvassing shows them way ahead, and doesn't fit that narrative. (This is assuming they don't just make up the figures!) If they'd been suspected of just making up the figures then clearly they wouldn't have been reported so widely. Maybe they've got so much credinility because they have been by far the most accurate. Unlike Labour's wild claims in Chesham & Amersham and in North Shropshire that were then repeated by the Tories. Maybe they havene't released any data yet because in the previous seats they did so much later in the campaign. And maybe we shouldn't have an electoral system where a big factor in how many people choose to vote is based on how they think others will vote. |
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Post by WestCountryRadical on Jun 11, 2022 22:01:22 GMT
Exactly. The purpose of releasing the data was to suggest that it's a close race and people should vote Lib Dem, rather than to give us an accurate poll. If they don't release any data, I would surmise their canvassing shows them way ahead, and doesn't fit that narrative. (This is assuming they don't just make up the figures!) If they'd been suspected of just making up the figures then clearly they wouldn't have been reported so widely. Maybe they've got so much credinility because they have been by far the most accurate. Unlike Labour's wild claims in Chesham & Amersham and in North Shropshire that were then repeated by the Tories. Maybe they havene't released any data yet because in the previous seats they did so much later in the campaign. And maybe we shouldn't have an electoral system where a big factor in how many people choose to vote is based on how they think others will vote. In Chesham & Amersham and North Shropshire the first release of 'internal polling' data came about 2 weeks before polling day, so now is the time the numbers should appear, if they do at all |
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Post by evergreenadam on Jun 12, 2022 8:23:51 GMT
A quick observation from canvassing in Tiverton today - I was very surprised how much the Labour vote was holding up. This may not be the case come polling day, but if I was a Lib Dem who’d seen our (Labour’s) figures from today, I’d be worried. Only one day, in one town, so may well not be representative, but surprised me enough to post it here. What’s the make up of the Labour vote in Tiverton? |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 12, 2022 8:51:06 GMT
A quick observation from canvassing in Tiverton today - I was very surprised how much the Labour vote was holding up. This may not be the case come polling day, but if I was a Lib Dem who’d seen our (Labour’s) figures from today, I’d be worried. Only one day, in one town, so may well not be representative, but surprised me enough to post it here. What’s the make up of the Labour vote in Tiverton? Locally referred to as the Max Factor. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 12, 2022 9:45:53 GMT
What’s the make up of the Labour vote in Tiverton? Locally referred to as the Max Factor. Less of your lip, young Carlton.  |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 12, 2022 9:48:32 GMT
Locally referred to as the Max Factor. Less of your lip, young Carlton.  You try to put a gloss on everything. |
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Post by grahammurray on Jun 12, 2022 10:26:50 GMT
A quick observation from canvassing in Tiverton today - I was very surprised how much the Labour vote was holding up. This may not be the case come polling day, but if I was a Lib Dem who’d seen our (Labour’s) figures from today, I’d be worried. Only one day, in one town, so may well not be representative, but surprised me enough to post it here. What’s the make up of the Labour vote in Tiverton? I hear they're a lovely couple. |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 12, 2022 11:12:15 GMT
A quick observation from canvassing in Tiverton today - I was very surprised how much the Labour vote was holding up. This may not be the case come polling day, but if I was a Lib Dem who’d seen our (Labour’s) figures from today, I’d be worried. Only one day, in one town, so may well not be representative, but surprised me enough to post it here. Though if you go back to N Shropshire the Labour vote held up relatively well in the urban areas - it didn't save the Tories. |
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Post by woollyliberal on Jun 12, 2022 11:36:56 GMT
A quick observation from canvassing in Tiverton today - I was very surprised how much the Labour vote was holding up. This may not be the case come polling day, but if I was a Lib Dem who’d seen our (Labour’s) figures from today, I’d be worried. Only one day, in one town, so may well not be representative, but surprised me enough to post it here. Which town? |
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Post by kevinf on Jun 12, 2022 11:37:06 GMT
A quick observation from canvassing in Tiverton today - I was very surprised how much the Labour vote was holding up. This may not be the case come polling day, but if I was a Lib Dem who’d seen our (Labour’s) figures from today, I’d be worried. Only one day, in one town, so may well not be representative, but surprised me enough to post it here. What’s the make up of the Labour vote in Tiverton? Labour have some town councillors, nothing at higher level; housing very mixed in the town, Labour vote must be spread widely but thinly. |
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Post by kevinf on Jun 12, 2022 11:39:01 GMT
A quick observation from canvassing in Tiverton today - I was very surprised how much the Labour vote was holding up. This may not be the case come polling day, but if I was a Lib Dem who’d seen our (Labour’s) figures from today, I’d be worried. Only one day, in one town, so may well not be representative, but surprised me enough to post it here. Which town? Tiverton itself |
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Post by woollyliberal on Jun 12, 2022 12:45:12 GMT
I'm told places where we have councillors are better hunting grounds than places were we don't. I canvassed in Collumpton the other day. On paper it was even between us and the Tories. The tone on the doorstep was CBA from everyone. It felt like a place waiting for inspiration. Each town will be different I guess. |
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