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Post by Ron Swanson on Jul 9, 2022 12:31:45 GMT
The way Hunt smiled when talking about his sister being locked down was creepy.
Not quite Trudeau level in the sense that you'd not want him within 100 metres of you or your kids, but not far off.
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Post by Wisconsin on Jul 9, 2022 12:34:52 GMT
She talked about it at length in her lecture at the IfG on Thursday. Is this available to watch anywhere? That sounds interesting Sure:
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Post by Khunanup on Jul 9, 2022 16:42:22 GMT
We really got Boris and May the wrong way around. She'd have been a great candidate for these times. Not my personal brand of Conservativism but i have a lot of time for her. Someone who unambiguously has a lot of personal integrity might be a wise pick at present. She was an awful minister and a terrible Prime Minister, there has never been a good time for May. She got where she was by ingratiating herself with your membership which negated how utterly unsuitable she was for the job.
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Post by batman on Jul 9, 2022 17:30:08 GMT
We really got Boris and May the wrong way around. She'd have been a great candidate for these times. Not my personal brand of Conservativism but i have a lot of time for her. Someone who unambiguously has a lot of personal integrity might be a wise pick at present. your second sentence is almost certainly correct, though anyone who backed Johnson until very recently could be successfully portrayed as someone who doesn't have much of it.
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Post by aargauer on Jul 9, 2022 17:33:56 GMT
We really got Boris and May the wrong way around. She'd have been a great candidate for these times. Not my personal brand of Conservativism but i have a lot of time for her. Someone who unambiguously has a lot of personal integrity might be a wise pick at present. your second sentence is almost certainly correct, though anyone who backed Johnson until very recently could be successfully portrayed as someone who doesn't have much of it. Given Starmer was in Corbyns shadow cabinet I think we might get away with that.
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Post by Merseymike on Jul 9, 2022 17:42:02 GMT
your second sentence is almost certainly correct, though anyone who backed Johnson until very recently could be successfully portrayed as someone who doesn't have much of it. Given Starmer was in Corbyns shadow cabinet I think we might get away with that. I think that one is well out of date and wearing thin. There is so little apparent connection between Starmer and Corbyn.
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Post by aargauer on Jul 9, 2022 17:54:04 GMT
Given Starmer was in Corbyns shadow cabinet I think we might get away with that. I think that one is well out of date and wearing thin. There is so little apparent connection between Starmer and Corbyn. Sure - but you can see why it'd prevent labour making much of serving in Boris's cabinet.
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Jul 9, 2022 19:00:00 GMT
Mid Bedfordshire
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Post by mrtoad on Jul 9, 2022 19:31:50 GMT
Also Selby & Ainsty. Both of them I would guess holdable even in by-election conditions.
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Post by batman on Jul 9, 2022 19:32:13 GMT
they'd probably survive that one (mid-Beds), although voters traditionally don't appreciate what they see as unnecessary elections
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Post by batman on Jul 9, 2022 19:33:26 GMT
think Selby & Ainsty could be pretty risky TBH. Wouldn't rule Labour out there in a by-election, though the Tories would be fine in a general, on those boundaries at least.
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Post by evergreenadam on Jul 9, 2022 19:35:31 GMT
You could see that coming as soon as the cameras captured her fussing over the baby at the resignation speech in Downing Street.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jul 9, 2022 19:43:43 GMT
Nadine Dorries in the House Of Lords...right, (sorry carlton43) I will check the back of the bottom shelf of Gran's cocktail cabinet, I am sure there are some variations of Bols in there. She used to hide her Senior Service fags in there too.
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Post by YL on Jul 9, 2022 19:51:31 GMT
they'd probably survive that one (mid-Beds), although voters traditionally don't appreciate what they see as unnecessary elections The 2019 result reminds me a little of some recent by-elections.
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 9, 2022 20:43:01 GMT
Nadine Dorries in the House Of Lords...right, (sorry carlton43 ) I will check the back of the bottom shelf of Gran's cocktail cabinet, I am sure there are some variations of Bols in there. She used to hide her Senior Service fags in there too. I would have liked your Gran. Do tell me they were untipped Senior Service.
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jul 9, 2022 20:59:10 GMT
Nadine Dorries in the House Of Lords...right, (sorry carlton43 ) I will check the back of the bottom shelf of Gran's cocktail cabinet, I am sure there are some variations of Bols in there. She used to hide her Senior Service fags in there too. I would have liked your Gran. Do tell me they were untipped Senior Service. Of course, and Capstan Full Strength.
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Post by ricmk on Jul 9, 2022 21:33:25 GMT
Mid Beds is very local to us. I think the Tory vote would collapse. It's full of decent country folk who genuinely like Nadine Dorries but are appalled at Johnson and the indecency of his Government. The fact Nadine is rarely there seems to be a minor issue! However there is a smaller farming community than in the likes of N Shropshire and Tiverton/Honiton and it's made up of several substantial villages / small towns. Ampthill about the largest and that just oozes Conservative if you visit (It is lovely.) It's also a huge constituency due to being a popular area for new housing but much of it is high end. A large chunk being taken off in the boundary proposals and going with Hitchin in Herts. I do think the Tories might well hold, but not because of them but because of the split opposition. Lib Dems second in 2005/2010 and the only ones who could realistically beat the Tories, but Labour had almost double the Lib Dem vote in 2019 and more in 2015 & 2017, and seem better organised. I'm not sure I can see the same sorts of squeeze we've seen in other seats, especially if the Tories have calmed down by the time the vote comes around, from the manic tantrums of the present.
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Post by aargauer on Jul 9, 2022 21:37:51 GMT
Pretty much any seat that isn’t very Tory and very leave (lincs, rougher bits of Essex etc) is going to be at risk in a by election in the present environment.
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Post by john07 on Jul 9, 2022 21:41:54 GMT
I would have liked your Gran. Do tell me they were untipped Senior Service. Of course, and Capstan Full Strength. My Grandfather smoked Park Drive. Very small cigarettes packed full of tar. He was gassed in the First World War and could hardly breath thereafter but still staggered on till he was 89.
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Post by carlton43 on Jul 9, 2022 21:55:14 GMT
I would have liked your Gran. Do tell me they were untipped Senior Service. Of course, and Capstan Full Strength. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Respect.
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