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Post by andrew111 on Nov 19, 2021 6:17:55 GMT
These figures are marginally different from the ones up thread
Manchester Elects (@mcrelects) Tweeted:
🚨CORRECTION🚨
Chorlton (Manchester) by-election result:
🌹 LAB: 52.1% (-15.9%)
🔶 LDEM: 21.7% (+16.3%)
🌻 GRN: 20.0% (+2.9%)
🌳 CON: 3.1% (-3.7%)
♀️ WEP: 2.2% (-0.4%)
ℹ️ IND: 1.7% (+1.7%)
Labour HOLD
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Post by ColinJ on Nov 19, 2021 7:09:35 GMT
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Post by YL on Nov 19, 2021 7:50:56 GMT
We also know the votes for the Labour candidates (Anfield 604, Clubmoor 787, Kirkdale 852). I also found a tweet from the Independent in Clubmoor saying she came third and the No Description (really Beacon Liverpool) candidate in Kirkdale came second, and she said the turnout in Clubmoor was 12%. That suggests the Labour vote share there was between 56.0% and 60.8%. edit: now we have the official results, the turnout in Clubmoor was actually 12.8%, so the Labour share was a bit lower than I'd calculated |
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Post by andrewteale on Nov 19, 2021 7:57:57 GMT
Anfield: Lab 604 Lib 281 LD 73 Grn 72 C 42 Ind 9
Clubmoor: Lab 787 Lib 324 Ind 167 TUSC 54 Grn 45 LD 34 C 33
Kirkdale: Lab 852 Ind 171 Grn 160 TUSC 84 C 57 LD 57
Turnouts: Anfield 11.9%, Clubmoor 12.8%, Kirkdale 11.8%
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Post by yellowperil on Nov 19, 2021 8:41:19 GMT
The other thing we know is of course the winning Labour votes, and in the absence of information about the opposition votes, we are invited to compare the winning vote with the total electorate, which shouldn't make comfortable reading for anybody. |
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Post by Rutlander on Nov 19, 2021 9:41:11 GMT
A strange selection of contests. Who will end up with more votes this week - the LibDems or the Continuity Liberals?
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 19, 2021 10:00:56 GMT
A strange selection of contests. Who will end up with more votes this week - the LibDems or the Continuity Liberals? Pedantry alert - the Lib Dems already have 100 more votes with Bere Ferrers still to come. Votes per candidate however may go comfortably to the Liberals. |
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Post by iain on Nov 19, 2021 10:15:30 GMT
Anfield: Lab 604 Lib 281 LD 73 Grn 72 C 42 Ind 9 Clubmoor: Lab 787 Lib 324 Ind 167 TUSC 54 Grn 45 LD 34 C 33 Kirkdale: Lab 852 Ind 171 Grn 160 TUSC 84 C 57 LD 57 Turnouts: Anfield 11.9%, Clubmoor 12.8%, Kirkdale 11.8% So: Anfield - Lab 55.9%, Lib 26.0%, LD 6.8%, Grn 6.7%, Con 3.9%, Ind 0.8% Clubmoor - Lab 54.5%, Lib 22.4%, Ind 11.6%, TUSC 3.7%, Grn 3.1%, LD 2.4%, Con 2.3% Kirkdale - Lab 61.7%, Ind 12.4%, Grn 11.6%, TUSC 6.1%, Con 4.1%, LD 4.1% |
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Post by andrew111 on Nov 19, 2021 10:46:08 GMT
Anfield: Lab 604 Lib 281 LD 73 Grn 72 C 42 Ind 9 Clubmoor: Lab 787 Lib 324 Ind 167 TUSC 54 Grn 45 LD 34 C 33 Kirkdale: Lab 852 Ind 171 Grn 160 TUSC 84 C 57 LD 57 Turnouts: Anfield 11.9%, Clubmoor 12.8%, Kirkdale 11.8% So: Anfield - Lab 55.9%, Lib 26.0%, LD 6.8%, Grn 6.7%, Con 3.9%, Ind 0.8% Clubmoor - Lab 54.5%, Lib 22.4%, Ind 11.6%, TUSC 3.7%, Grn 3.1%, LD 2.4%, Con 2.3% Kirkdale - Lab 61.7%, Ind 12.4%, Grn 11.6%, TUSC 6.1%, Con 4.1%, LD 4.1% It is interesting that there is no sign of switching from Labour to Tory as seen in many other relatively deprived parts of the North and Midlands. |
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Post by akmd on Nov 19, 2021 10:56:28 GMT
So: Anfield - Lab 55.9%, Lib 26.0%, LD 6.8%, Grn 6.7%, Con 3.9%, Ind 0.8% Clubmoor - Lab 54.5%, Lib 22.4%, Ind 11.6%, TUSC 3.7%, Grn 3.1%, LD 2.4%, Con 2.3% Kirkdale - Lab 61.7%, Ind 12.4%, Grn 11.6%, TUSC 6.1%, Con 4.1%, LD 4.1% It is interesting that there is no sign of switching from Labour to Tory as seen in many other relatively deprived parts of the North and Midlands. It’s Liverpool. Hatred for the Conservatives runs deep there. |
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Post by owainsutton on Nov 19, 2021 10:59:28 GMT
It is interesting that there is no sign of switching from Labour to Tory as seen in many other relatively deprived parts of the North and Midlands. It’s Liverpool. Hatred for the Conservatives runs deep there. There's also the long-running theory that the city is a test case for what happens when nobody is exposed to The Sun. |
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 19, 2021 11:00:25 GMT
So: Anfield - Lab 55.9%, Lib 26.0%, LD 6.8%, Grn 6.7%, Con 3.9%, Ind 0.8% Clubmoor - Lab 54.5%, Lib 22.4%, Ind 11.6%, TUSC 3.7%, Grn 3.1%, LD 2.4%, Con 2.3% Kirkdale - Lab 61.7%, Ind 12.4%, Grn 11.6%, TUSC 6.1%, Con 4.1%, LD 4.1% It is interesting that there is no sign of switching from Labour to Tory as seen in many other relatively deprived parts of the North and Midlands. Not much sign of it in yesterday's Manchester byelection either tbf. |
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Post by owainsutton on Nov 19, 2021 11:02:32 GMT
It is interesting that there is no sign of switching from Labour to Tory as seen in many other relatively deprived parts of the North and Midlands. Not much sign of it in yesterday's Manchester byelection either tbf. Chorlton isn't anywhere near the "relatively deprived" category. |
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Post by ilerda on Nov 19, 2021 11:02:47 GMT
So: Anfield - Lab 55.9%, Lib 26.0%, LD 6.8%, Grn 6.7%, Con 3.9%, Ind 0.8% Clubmoor - Lab 54.5%, Lib 22.4%, Ind 11.6%, TUSC 3.7%, Grn 3.1%, LD 2.4%, Con 2.3% Kirkdale - Lab 61.7%, Ind 12.4%, Grn 11.6%, TUSC 6.1%, Con 4.1%, LD 4.1% It is interesting that there is no sign of switching from Labour to Tory as seen in many other relatively deprived parts of the North and Midlands. That pattern has tended to exclude central parts of big cities, however. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Nov 19, 2021 11:05:21 GMT
So: Anfield - Lab 55.9%, Lib 26.0%, LD 6.8%, Grn 6.7%, Con 3.9%, Ind 0.8% Clubmoor - Lab 54.5%, Lib 22.4%, Ind 11.6%, TUSC 3.7%, Grn 3.1%, LD 2.4%, Con 2.3% Kirkdale - Lab 61.7%, Ind 12.4%, Grn 11.6%, TUSC 6.1%, Con 4.1%, LD 4.1% It is interesting that there is no sign of switching from Labour to Tory as seen in many other relatively deprived parts of the North and Midlands. What akmd said, plus any switching seems more in the small to medium towns and cities rather than the large ones - Manchester council remains Tory-free, and the Tories in Birmingham are largely in the Sutton Coldfield area, which is really a totally different universe to the metropolis. |
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Post by andrew111 on Nov 19, 2021 11:05:51 GMT
It is interesting that there is no sign of switching from Labour to Tory as seen in many other relatively deprived parts of the North and Midlands. Not much sign of it in yesterday's Manchester byelection either tbf. Yes indeed, so not much "Sun" effect there. I realise that these cities were pretty Remain but I would not have thought the white working class (for want of a better description) were very different from those in places like Redcar and Stocksbridge.. |
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Post by The Bishop on Nov 19, 2021 11:06:31 GMT
There was online speculation that the left-leaning Independent candidates in Liverpool were getting some traction - they were running hard on Starmer's recent decision to write for the Sun - so Labour will be happy enough with those results given the dreadful turnouts.
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Post by evergreenadam on Nov 19, 2021 11:19:12 GMT
Not much sign of it in yesterday's Manchester byelection either tbf. Yes indeed, so not much "Sun" effect there. I realise that these cities were pretty Remain but I would not have thought the white working class (for want of a better description) were very different from those in places like Redcar and Stocksbridge.. I think they are less insular, given the variety of cultures and experiences available in a big city. |
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Post by andrew111 on Nov 19, 2021 11:20:47 GMT
It is interesting that there is no sign of switching from Labour to Tory as seen in many other relatively deprived parts of the North and Midlands. What akmd said, plus any switching seems more in the small to medium towns and cities rather than the large ones - Manchester council remains Tory-free, and the Tories in Birmingham are largely in the Sutton Coldfield area, which is really a totally different universe to the metropolis. If you ignore areas dominated by students and ethnic minorities, what is so different about Stoke on Trent compared to social housing rich inner cities? |
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Post by Tony Otim on Nov 19, 2021 11:21:21 GMT
There was online speculation that the left-leaning Independent candidates in Liverpool were getting some traction - they were running hard on Starmer's recent decision to write for the Sun - so Labour will be happy enough with those results given the dreadful turnouts. Well, tbf, they did get some traction - 11% in both wards in a crowded field of also-rans - but nowhere near enough of course. |
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