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Post by edgbaston on Oct 16, 2021 8:29:59 GMT
Is this the smallest Conservative constituency?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 16, 2021 8:30:29 GMT
Chelsea and Fulham?
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Post by John Chanin on Oct 16, 2021 8:57:41 GMT
Is this the smallest Conservative constituency? Wikipedia says Islington North, which makes sense as London is generally very dense and the seat lacks any large park. Southend West is fairly dense, but has the large Belfairs Park, as well as the uninhabited hinterland of Southend airport. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 16, 2021 9:02:10 GMT
Is this the smallest Conservative constituency? Wikipedia says Islington North, which makes sense as London is generally very dense and the seat lacks any large park. Southend West is fairly dense, but has the large Belfairs Park, as well as the uninhabited hinterland of Southend airport. I think you missed a rather crucial word within the question, unless you have some surprising news for us in the parliamentary defections thread.. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Oct 16, 2021 9:03:48 GMT
Is this the smallest Conservative constituency? Wikipedia says Islington North, which makes sense as London is generally very dense and the seat lacks any large park. Southend West is fairly dense, but has the large Belfairs Park, as well as the uninhabited hinterland of Southend airport. Unless there’s a mega defection we’ve missed I don’t think Islington North is a Conservative constituency… |
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Post by andrewp on Oct 16, 2021 9:31:25 GMT
Is this the smallest Conservative constituency? Could well be the smallest outside of London. I wonder if Wimbledon, Kensington and Chelsea and Fulham are smaller? |
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Post by rcronald on Oct 16, 2021 9:41:34 GMT
Is this the smallest Conservative constituency? It’s probably tied for 4th place along with Wimbledon and C&W after C&H,Kensington and S&C |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 9:47:17 GMT
According to the ONS days I found, Chelsea & Fulham is the smallest Tory seat with Kensington just behind, although this one definitely makes the top 10
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Oct 16, 2021 9:51:47 GMT
According to the ONS days I found, Chelsea & Fulham is the smallest Tory seat with Kensington just behind, although this one definitely makes the top 10 What is the top 10 out of interest? I've been peering at a map which isn't exactly the best way to figure these things out. I'd guess one or two seats in West Midlands conurbation (Wolves SW, West Brom West) make the top 10 as well as maybe Portsmouth North, Southampton Itchen, but none look to be as small as Southend West |
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Post by where2travel on Oct 16, 2021 9:54:46 GMT
I did wonder about the likes of Stoke-on-Trent Central, Bexleyheath & Crayford and Cheadle. It's hard to tell, but I think Southend West is probably a bit smaller than all of them. I'd never have guessed it was so small, particularly as it doesn't include much of Southend proper (although I suppose a lot of the central area isn't housing anyway).
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 16, 2021 10:02:53 GMT
Any party obviously is free to stand and nobody has suggested that they shouldn't be. The only discussion is about how they should exercise that freedom. I also agree with your last point, though I believe we still don't know the motive of the murderer in this case, I can't see how this situation is any different to the murder of Jo Cox. As I say I thought the decision by the Conservatives, Lib Dems, UKIP etc to decline to fight Batley & Spen was wrong but a precedent has been set. It is going to leave the Lib Dems in particular open to obvious charges of hypocrisy and cynicism here if they do decide to stand here given that precedent and I'd be intrigued to see the mental gymnastics they perform in order to give a reason for doing so (other than the real one which is that they'd fancy their chances in an area of considerable historic strength) I mean the real reason either way is that we are bounced into things by the bigger parties. Once May had said the Tories wouldn’t contest Batley & Spen, we had to. Likewise, on this one, we will be all but forced to follow along with whatever Labour do. Edit: and I don’t think anyone but the most deluded optimist would think we have any chance in this seat. Cameron wasn't it? Just a day or two after Cox's killing. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Oct 16, 2021 10:07:10 GMT
I mean the real reason either way is that we are bounced into things by the bigger parties. Once May had said the Tories wouldn’t contest Batley & Spen, we had to. Likewise, on this one, we will be all but forced to follow along with whatever Labour do. Edit: and I don’t think anyone but the most deluded optimist would think we have any chance in this seat. Cameron wasn't it? Just a day or two after Cox's killing. Yes, May was Home Secretary; according to Tim Shipman’s book on the referendum campaign Cameron was less than pleased that she came out of the Home Office and made a statement to the press before him (IIRC he was on the road coming back to London from a campaign event). |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 10:18:58 GMT
According to the ONS days I found, Chelsea & Fulham is the smallest Tory seat with Kensington just behind, although this one definitely makes the top 10 What is the top 10 out of interest? I've been peering at a map which isn't exactly the best way to figure these things out. I'd guess one or two seats in West Midlands conurbation (Wolves SW, West Brom West) make the top 10 as well as maybe Portsmouth North, Southampton Itchen, but none look to be as small as Southend West 1. Chelsea & Fulham 2. Kensington 3. Cities of London & Westminster 4. Sutton & Cheam 5. Chingford & Woodford Green 6. Southend West 7. Blackpool South 8. Southampton, Itchen 9. Finchley & Golders Green 10. Wimbledon |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Oct 16, 2021 10:26:04 GMT
According to the ONS days I found, Chelsea & Fulham is the smallest Tory seat with Kensington just behind, although this one definitely makes the top 10 What is the top 10 out of interest? I've been peering at a map which isn't exactly the best way to figure these things out. I'd guess one or two seats in West Midlands conurbation (Wolves SW, West Brom West) make the top 10 as well as maybe Portsmouth North, Southampton Itchen, but none look to be as small as Southend West Presuming I haven't missed one somewhere, it's: 1) Chelsea and Fulham (3.20 sq.mi.) 2) Kensington (3.46 sq.mi.) 3) Cities of London and Westminster (6.33 sq.mi.) 4) Sutton and Cheam (7.09 sq.mi.) 5) Chingford and Woodford Green (7.36 sq.mi.) 6) Southend West (7.60 sq.mi.) 7) Blackpool South (7.81 sq.mi.) 8) Southampton, Itchen (7.85 sq.mi.) 9) Finchley and Golders Green (8.03 sq.mi.) 10) Wimbledon (8.17 sq.mi.) |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Oct 16, 2021 10:52:43 GMT
And in case anyone's curious about the other end of the scale:
1) Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale (1643.90 sq.mi.)
2) Dumfries and Galloway (1534.89 sq.mi.)
3) Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk (1479.24 sq.mi.)
4) West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine (1267.92 sq.mi.)
5) Penrith and The Border (1199.31 sq.mi.)
6) Brecon and Radnorshire (1160.59 sq.mi.)
7) Hexham (936.85 sq.mi.)
8) Berwick-upon-Tweed (918.70 sq.mi.)
9) Moray (863.93 sq.mi.)
10) Montgomeryshire (839.56 sq.mi.)
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Post by neilm on Oct 16, 2021 14:25:41 GMT
Cameron wasn't it? Just a day or two after Cox's killing. Yes, May was Home Secretary; according to Tim Shipman’s book on the referendum campaign Cameron was less than pleased that she came out of the Home Office and made a statement to the press before him (IIRC he was on the road coming back to London from a campaign event). IIRC this was the thing that put the 'Theresa is a submarine' stuff in the open. |
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Post by Jack on Oct 16, 2021 18:14:16 GMT
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Post by Jack on Oct 16, 2021 18:28:54 GMT
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Post by mrsir on Oct 16, 2021 18:29:58 GMT
My prediction is that UKIP will stand and save their deposit if Reform don’t which I don’t think they will.
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Post by greatkingrat on Oct 16, 2021 18:46:45 GMT
I might be imagining it, but I seem to recall Labour had a rule that they had to stand in every seat. Has that now changed?
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