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Post by carlton43 on Feb 4, 2022 14:34:13 GMT
The smart ones arrive 30-minutes before the declaration having had a shower, a change, a shag, a meal and some drinking with friends. How do you do a box count if you turn up so late? The only point of going to the count is to gather statistics, everything else is irrelevent. We left the last PCC election at about 10:45, everything done, no need to hang around to wait for the counting. There are 'staff' to do that sort of thing. In for the declaration and to make an acceptance speech of charm and reconciliation ... Or to sigh, shake hands and make short witty speech in conceding ... But carefully honed and prepared in advance.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Feb 4, 2022 14:34:40 GMT
Have spoilt ballots ever saved their nonexistent deposit before? I would need to check the 2007 Scottish elections, when the Holyrood constituency vote was on one ballot paper, the Holyrood list vote on another, and the local election vote (introducing STV for the first time) on a third.
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 4, 2022 14:36:12 GMT
The smart ones arrive 30-minutes before the declaration having had a shower, a change, a shag, a meal and some drinking with friends. All normal candidates are at the count from the beginning, so that they can do tallying from the dot of 10pm. Anybody who incorrectly thinks that eating food or having sex is somehow more enjoyable or exciting than tallying numbers is insane and should be correctively re-educated by the method of scythes, gherkins and a third/floor window. Ah! How our lives have differed! The joys I must have missed out upon.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 15:03:14 GMT
Everyone’s going on about the spoilt ballots, but we can’t count them as one block. It would be just as misleading to put a phallus drawing in the same category as ballot marking more than one candidate as it would adding all Labour and Lib Dem votes together to make a ‘Progressive majority’.🙂 We need to break it down. Did the returning officer do that in the declaration?
Edit: Incidentally, is there a constituency result on record where there were no spoilt ballots cast?
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Post by Andrew_S on Feb 4, 2022 15:07:27 GMT
"4 hours ago carlton43 said: The smart ones arrive 30-minutes before the declaration having had a shower, a change, a shag, a meal and some drinking with friends." All normal candidates are at the count from the beginning, so that they can do tallying from the dot of 10pm. Anybody who incorrectly thinks that eating food or having sex is somehow more enjoyable or exciting than tallying numbers is insane and should be correctively re-educated by the method of scythes, gherkins and a third/floor window. Ah! How our lives have differed! The joys I must have missed out upon. The person who invented the internet never imagined that it would lead to conversations like this.
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Post by greatkingrat on Feb 4, 2022 15:10:29 GMT
The Psychedelic Movement's next leaflet
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Post by Tony Otim on Feb 4, 2022 17:23:17 GMT
Have spoilt ballots ever saved their nonexistent deposit before? I would need to check the 2007 Scottish elections, when the Holyrood constituency vote was on one ballot paper, the Holyrood list vote on another, and the local election vote (introducing STV for the first time) on a third. IIRC, weren't the constituency and list votes actually on different columns on the same ballot then, adding to the confusion.
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Post by timrollpickering on Feb 4, 2022 17:49:11 GMT
Have spoilt ballots ever saved their nonexistent deposit before? I think they did in last year's London Mayor election.
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Feb 4, 2022 17:55:41 GMT
The smart ones arrive 30-minutes before the declaration having had a shower, a change, a shag, a meal and some drinking with friends. All normal candidates are at the count from the beginning, so that they can do tallying from the dot of 10pm. A normal candidate won’t tally there own votes. Anybody who incorrectly thinks that eating food or having sex is somehow more enjoyable or exciting than tallying numbers is insane and should be correctively re-educated by the method of scythes, gherkins and a third/floor window. Actually this I agree with
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Post by J.G.Harston on Feb 4, 2022 18:02:39 GMT
As far as I can see (and apologies if this is just me failing at using the search function), no-one's posted the Psychedelic leaflet yet – a curious collection of policies if ever there was one: All fine and sensible policies, but what's this nonsense about letterboxes?
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Post by johnloony on Feb 4, 2022 18:18:48 GMT
I predict resultCon 8,000 12,792UKIP 900 400ED 600 320Eng Const 450 86Fr All 250 161Fransen 200 299Heritage 70 236(-) 50 52Psy M 30 512I was curious to remind myself of my original prediction, so here it is compared with the result
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Post by Strontium Dog on Feb 4, 2022 18:26:58 GMT
Con 12792 Psychedlic party 2nd = 512 UKIP 400 others <400 Highest Conservative Vote Share in History, Proof that outside of the metropolitican elites the people still belive in boris You jest, but the winning candidate has come out and basically said this. Obviously starting as she means to go on - deluded and/or lying through her teeth.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Feb 4, 2022 18:33:49 GMT
Highest Conservative Vote Share in History, Proof that outside of the metropolitican elites the people still belive in boris You jest, but the winning candidate has come out and basically said this. Obviously starting as she means to go on - deluded and/or lying through her teeth. Encouraging news for the Psychedelic Party, suggesting that their unexpectedly strong showing here has already forced the Conservatives to tilt in their direction.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 18:34:02 GMT
Highest Conservative Vote Share in History, Proof that outside of the metropolitican elites the people still belive in boris You jest, but the winning candidate has come out and basically said this. Obviously starting as she means to go on - deluded and/or lying through her teeth. She’s read up on how Lib Dems use, interpret and present statistics.
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Post by Andrew_S on Feb 4, 2022 18:42:40 GMT
Con 12792 Psychedlic party 2nd = 512 UKIP 400 others <400 Highest Conservative Vote Share in History, Proof that outside of the metropolitican elites the people still belive in boris I agree wholeheartedly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 18:51:56 GMT
I think one reason why Conservative MPs have not yet defenestrated Boris is because there is a bit less backlash than some people think there should be. Still upset people. Still angry people. But not on the level where MPs were steamrollered into chucking him without giving him another chance.
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Post by timrollpickering on Feb 4, 2022 18:59:21 GMT
Highest Conservative Vote Share in History, Proof that outside of the metropolitican elites the people still belive in boris You jest, but the winning candidate has come out and basically said this. Obviously starting as she means to go on - deluded and/or lying through her teeth. You didn't hear some of the things said about Boris's critics and the media that I heard on the doorstep.
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Post by therealriga on Feb 4, 2022 19:18:22 GMT
You jest, but the winning candidate has come out and basically said this. Obviously starting as she means to go on - deluded and/or lying through her teeth. Encouraging news for the Psychedelic Party, suggesting that their unexpectedly strong showing here has already forced the Conservatives to tilt in their direction. Rubbish. The Conservatives remain the party of beer and sandwiches at Number 10.
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Post by jakegb on Feb 4, 2022 19:37:53 GMT
I think one reason why Conservative MPs have not yet defenestrated Boris is because there is a bit less backlash than some people think there should be. Still upset people. Still angry people. But not on the level where MPs were steamrollered into chucking him without giving him another chance. Completely agree - I think he will survive, albeit bruised and battered. Yes the Southend West election was no normal by-election, what with the major parties standing down. But the turnout was not dissimilar from the Batley and Spen by-election in 2016 - and Frith actually achieved a higher percentage majority than Brabin. Even given the tragic circumstances of the by-election, many voters would have been motivated by the government's performance (good or bad). The fact that the Conservative candidate won with such a commanding majority, without any other candidate saving their deposit, highlights that the situation may not be as bleak for Boris after all. But Birmingham Erdington in the coming weeks will prove a much greater test...
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Post by nyx on Feb 4, 2022 20:35:39 GMT
I think one reason why Conservative MPs have not yet defenestrated Boris is because there is a bit less backlash than some people think there should be. Still upset people. Still angry people. But not on the level where MPs were steamrollered into chucking him without giving him another chance. Completely agree - I think he will survive, albeit bruised and battered. Yes the Southend West election was no normal by-election, what with the major parties standing down. But the turnout was not dissimilar from the Batley and Spen by-election in 2016 - and Frith actually achieved a higher percentage majority than Brabin. Even given the tragic circumstances of the by-election, many voters would have been motivated by the government's performance (good or bad). The fact that the Conservative candidate won with such a commanding majority, without any other candidate saving their deposit, highlights that the situation may not be as bleak for Boris after all. But Birmingham Erdington in the coming weeks will prove a much greater test... Don’t forget that Southend West had far far more spoilt ballots than Batley and Spen did, though!
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