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Post by andrew111 on Feb 4, 2022 11:34:39 GMT
Loving how some candidates arrived at the count more than 30 minutes before the first ballot box! The smart ones arrive 30-minutes before the declaration having had a shower, a change, a shag, a meal and some drinking with friends. But not necessarily in that order |
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Post by grahammurray on Feb 4, 2022 11:36:39 GMT
The smart ones arrive 30-minutes before the declaration having had a shower, a change, a shag, a meal and some drinking with friends. But not necessarily in that order Or separately. |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 4, 2022 11:39:52 GMT
Psychedelic Movement are the runners-up. Didn't expect that. No. Not at all. Spoiled ballots are the clear and effective Runner Up. |
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Post by andrew111 on Feb 4, 2022 11:42:01 GMT
Loving how some candidates arrived at the count more than 30 minutes before the first ballot box! The smart ones arrive 30-minutes before the declaration having had a shower, a change, a shag, a meal and some drinking with friends. As an agent it is so annoying when people you have invited to the count to tally boxes decide to have a shag first. |
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Post by andrew111 on Feb 4, 2022 11:43:38 GMT
Psychedelic Movement are the runners-up. Didn't expect that. No. Not at all. Spoiled ballots are the clear and effective Runner Up. Next time there is a by-election like this I am going to register a "Spoiled Ballots" Party so I can save my deposit |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 4, 2022 11:44:25 GMT
Psychedelic Movement are the runners-up. Didn't expect that. From the looks of things they were the only non-right wing party standing so I’m not too surprised they did relatively well. I didn’t think they’d beat UKIP though. That is a very poor result indeed for UKIP in all these circumstances. |
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 4, 2022 11:46:14 GMT
Middleton and Prestwich 1940 says hi. One wonders if the secret service bothered looking at the very small number of people who voted for the BUF during the Battle of France. Yes, an intriguing thought. |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 4, 2022 11:46:20 GMT
The smart ones arrive 30-minutes before the declaration having had a shower, a change, a shag, a meal and some drinking with friends. As an agent it is so annoying when people you have invited to the count to tally boxes decide to have a shag first. It very clearly represents the difference between Urgent and Important ! |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 4, 2022 12:14:58 GMT
The smart ones arrive 30-minutes before the declaration having had a shower, a change, a shag, a meal and some drinking with friends. All of those those activities"with friends" I presume? I shower alone I change alone usually A shag with a consenting female by mutual choice and in the excitement of the moment A meal with friends and associates on such an eve A drink with friends and the simpatico Would your scenario be radically different from that? |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Feb 4, 2022 12:32:58 GMT
As far as I can see (and apologies if this is just me failing at using the search function), no-one's posted the Psychedelic leaflet yet – a curious collection of policies if ever there was one:  |
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 4, 2022 12:56:13 GMT
Indeed, it really was a good read. Loved the last paragraph, nice to see a ‘liberal’ journo accepting how they got UKIP so wrong. It was interesting to read, but maybe slightly exaggerates how monolithically right wing the seat is and I wasn't convinced by her take that the main opposition parties were secretly relieved at withdrawing from the contest. You wouldn't guess from the piece that Labour can now win one ward in the constituency and are non-negligible in others, nor that it was actually a major Liberal/Alliance target back in the 1980s. |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Feb 4, 2022 12:56:33 GMT
But not necessarily in that order Or separately. Eating out. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 13:26:09 GMT
As far as I can see (and apologies if this is just me failing at using the search function), no-one's posted the Psychedelic leaflet yet – a curious collection of policies if ever there was one: Quite canny in a way. There are some 'fun' policies there a la the Monster Raving Loony Party, but there are some that make me more uncomfortable and think 'Is that the mask slipping?' |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 4, 2022 13:26:13 GMT
The smart ones arrive 30-minutes before the declaration having had a shower, a change, a shag, a meal and some drinking with friends. As an agent it is so annoying when people you have invited to the count to tally boxes decide to have a shag first. The counting officers tend to object as well. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Feb 4, 2022 13:50:22 GMT
Loving how some candidates arrived at the count more than 30 minutes before the first ballot box! The smart ones arrive 30-minutes before the declaration having had a shower, a change, a shag, a meal and some drinking with friends. How do you do a box count if you turn up so late? The only point of going to the count is to gather statistics, everything else is irrelevent. We left the last PCC election at about 10:45, everything done, no need to hang around to wait for the counting. |
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Post by johnloony on Feb 4, 2022 13:57:09 GMT
Loving how some candidates arrived at the count more than 30 minutes before the first ballot box! The smart ones arrive 30-minutes before the declaration having had a shower, a change, a shag, a meal and some drinking with friends. All normal candidates are at the count from the beginning, so that they can do tallying from the dot of 10pm. Anybody who incorrectly thinks that eating food or having sex is somehow more enjoyable or exciting than tallying numbers is insane and should be correctively re-educated by the method of scythes, gherkins and a third/floor window. |
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Post by johnloony on Feb 4, 2022 14:00:02 GMT
“Add them up”? Add what up? It is impossible to “add up” any numbers, before we know what any of the numbers are. Either you are apocalyptically stupid, in which case it might be necessary to cut you in half with a scythe, or you have completely missed the whole point that I was making. I will be charitable in assuming the latter, so I will explain. At the start of the count, the returning Officer knows what the electorate is. In this case, it is 66,354. Call it E. Then, at the end of the verification stage, the Returning Officer knows what the total number of ballot papers is. In this case it is 15,942. Call it V. Then, the Returning Officer calculates the turn out (V/E) and usually announces it as a percentage, accurate to 2 decimal places. In this case, 24.03%. Call it T%. Then, all the normal people, who wants to know what the turnout was, calculate the turnout (E x T%) and get a number which, in this case, ranges from 15,942 to 15,948. Then, all the normal people are annoyed because they have not been told the percentage turnout to a sufficiently high level of accuracy to be able to know what the turnout was. Then, all the normal people (if they are at the count) go to the returning Officer in order to ask specifically what the turnout was as a number and not as a percentage, and are told that it was V. Or, if they are not at the count and are at home watching on television, they ask people on Twitter to try to find out what V was. Then, the sorting stage of the count takes place, as a result of which the returning Officer discovers that the number of votes cast for each candidate was A, B, C etc, and Z spoilt votes. Then, the result is declared, and everybody knows what A, B, C, etc and Z are. Then, all the normal people add up A plus B plus C plus Z, and subtract the total from V, in order to find out what the discrepancy is between the declared total and the verification total. If there is a significant discrepancy between V and the total of a, B, C and Z, then the candidates and agents at the count will immediately be alerted to, and will be conscious of, the possibility of an error, and will, if necessary, request a recount. The whole point of this process is that it is necessary for normal people to know what the verification total (V) is, as a number, before the total number of votes for each candidate is known. Unless there's an R in the month. In your own words here's where your argument falls on its arse. "Then, all the normal people are annoyed because they have not been told the percentage turnout to a sufficiently high level of accuracy to be able to know what the turnout was." No, they aren't. Yes they are, that’s the whole point. Anybody who doesn’t want to know what the verification total is is insane. |
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Post by grahammurray on Feb 4, 2022 14:21:59 GMT
Unless there's an R in the month. In your own words here's where your argument falls on its arse. "Then, all the normal people are annoyed because they have not been told the percentage turnout to a sufficiently high level of accuracy to be able to know what the turnout was." No, they aren't. Yes they are, that’s the whole point. Anybody who doesn’t want to know what the verification total is is insane. I'll just leave that hanging there. |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Feb 4, 2022 14:23:47 GMT
I would guess around 20% sounds about right. Tories will obviously win, but who do people think will finish 2nd? Spoiled ballots. Kaboom! |
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Post by minionofmidas on Feb 4, 2022 14:24:38 GMT
Have spoilt ballots ever saved their nonexistent deposit before?
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