|
|
Post by andrew on Feb 4, 2022 1:28:34 GMT
Psychedelic Movement are the runners-up. Didn't expect that. From the looks of things they were the only non-right wing party standing so I’m not too surprised they did relatively well. I didn’t think they’d beat UKIP though. |
|
|
|
Post by timrollpickering on Feb 4, 2022 1:28:35 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by greenhert on Feb 4, 2022 1:30:54 GMT
In percentage terms this gives:
Conservative 86.1%
Psychedelic 3.4%
UKIP 2.7%
EDP 2.2%
Independent 2.0%
Heritage 1.6%
Freedom Alliance 1.1%
English Constitution 0.6%
Olga Childs 0.3%.
|
|
|
|
Post by Wisconsin on Feb 4, 2022 1:31:18 GMT
I’d forgotten about the moronic knee jerk decision to make this place a city.
|
|
|
|
Post by andrewp on Feb 4, 2022 1:31:30 GMT
A higher percentage than Batley and Spen 2016. Bit surprising.
|
|
ricmk
Lib Dem
Posts: 2,615 
|
Post by ricmk on Feb 4, 2022 1:31:54 GMT
Hard to see how the various sideshow parties represented here can ever break through if they can't get anywhere near holding a deposit in these circumstances, and get beaten by the Psychedelic movement. Not a lot to see here - just hoping that Anna Firth is one of the more honourable and decent MPs than some of her new colleagues are proving to be at the moment.
|
|
clyde1998
SNP
Green (E&W) member; SNP supporter
Posts: 1,765
|
Post by clyde1998 on Feb 4, 2022 1:32:46 GMT
Complete result: | Anna Firth | Conservative | 12,792 | 86.10% | | Jason Pilley | Psychedelic Movement | 512 | 3.45% | | Steve Laws | UKIP | 400 | 2.69% | | Catherine Blaiklock | English Democrat | 320 | 2.15% | | Jayda Fransen | Independent | 299 | 2.01% | | Ben Downton | Heritage | 236 | 1.59% | | Christopher Anderson | Freedom Alliance | 161 | 1.08% | | Graham Moore | English Constitution | 86 | 0.58% | | Olga Childs |
| 52 | 0.35% |
| Turnout | 15,942 | 24.03% |
| Rejected | 1,084 | 6.80% |
|
|
|
|
Post by manchesterman on Feb 4, 2022 1:33:24 GMT
Psychedelic Movement are the runners-up. Didn't expect that. From the looks of things they were the only non-right wing party standing so I’m not too surprised they did relatively well. I didn’t think they’d beat UKIP though. did you see their "manifesto"?  |
|
clyde1998
SNP
Green (E&W) member; SNP supporter
Posts: 1,765
|
Post by clyde1998 on Feb 4, 2022 1:34:37 GMT
A higher percentage than Batley and Spen 2016. Bit surprising. Rejected ballots was about ten times higher in his by-election though. |
|
|
|
Post by manchesterman on Feb 4, 2022 1:35:00 GMT
Psephological trivia question? Has "spoiled ballots" ever come second in a national election before? I'm looking at you Davıd Boothroyd |
|
|
|
Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 4, 2022 1:39:59 GMT
Nearly happened in Cardiff West in 1979 - 2,253 spoiled ballots was not that far behind runner-up Plaid Cymru candidate on 3,272.
|
|
|
|
Post by johnloony on Feb 4, 2022 1:59:46 GMT
If the electorate was 66,354 and the turnout was 24.03% that means 15,942 - 15,948 votes were cast. 15,945 rounded to the nearest whole number. You’re missing the point. If the electorate is 66,354 and the turnout is 24.03% then the turnout is anything from 24.025% to 24.035% which is anything from 15,942 to 15,948. This is the reason why I am annoyed by Returning Officers who have a habit of announcing that the turnout at the verification stage is ab.cd% rather that ab,cde. |
|
|
|
Post by grahammurray on Feb 4, 2022 2:03:41 GMT
15,945 rounded to the nearest whole number. You’re missing the point. If the electorate is 66,354 and the turnout is 24.03% then the turnout is anything from 24.025% to 24.035% which is anything from 15,942 to 15,948. This is the reason why I am annoyed by Returning Officers who have a habit of announcing that the turnout at the verification stage is ab.cd% rather that ab,cde. Here's an idea. Add them up. |
|
|
|
Post by johnloony on Feb 4, 2022 2:05:06 GMT
So? The turnout is only given to two decimal places, so could be anything below 24.035% but not below 24.025%. Which would mean somewhere between 15,942 and 15,948 votes (inclusive). As already posted by someone who understands psephology, and arithmetic.I understand both psephology and mathematics as well, thank you very much, and know sufficient knowledge of the latter is required for the former. Hopefully the actual number of votes cast will be known soon, along with the (likely unusually high) number of spoiled ballot papers. If you know enough about mathematics to understand that point, then you would have noticed and understood the significance of the fact that the verification total was reported to be 24.03% rather than 24.026% [which is 15,942] or 24.030% [which would have been 15,945]. |
|
|
|
Post by ibnu on Feb 4, 2022 2:20:13 GMT
Con 12792 Psychedlic party 2nd = 512 UKIP 400 others <400 Highest Conservative Vote Share in History, Proof that outside of the metropolitican elites the people still belive in boris |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 2:27:34 GMT
The Conservative share is higher than I thought it would be.
I’m surprised the minor parties did so terribly. Of those who voted the Tories really seem to have corralled the right of centre vote; and perhaps those who wanted to protest thought it better taste not to vote given the cause of the by-election.
I don’t envy Anna Firth having to go through the campaign in such (national) circumstances.
Party HQ will be relieved I guess.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 2:28:20 GMT
Con 12792 Psychedlic party 2nd = 512 UKIP 400 others <400 Highest Conservative Vote Share in History, Proof that outside of the metropolitican elites the people still belive in boris I’m glad some people can look beyond their own prejudices 😉 |
|
|
|
Post by johnloony on Feb 4, 2022 2:34:31 GMT
Psychedelic Movement are the runners-up. Didn't expect that. Part of me was expecting them to be last, because it’s the most obscure party name; part of me was expecting them to get votes from lefty voters who were wanting a not obviously right-wing party name. |
|
|
|
Post by johnloony on Feb 4, 2022 2:51:17 GMT
You’re missing the point. If the electorate is 66,354 and the turnout is 24.03% then the turnout is anything from 24.025% to 24.035% which is anything from 15,942 to 15,948. This is the reason why I am annoyed by Returning Officers who have a habit of announcing that the turnout at the verification stage is ab.cd% rather that ab,cde. Here's an idea. Add them up. “Add them up”? Add what up? It is impossible to “add up” any numbers, before we know what any of the numbers are. Either you are apocalyptically stupid, in which case it might be necessary to cut you in half with a scythe, or you have completely missed the whole point that I was making. I will be charitable in assuming the latter, so I will explain. At the start of the count, the returning Officer knows what the electorate is. In this case, it is 66,354. Call it E. Then, at the end of the verification stage, the Returning Officer knows what the total number of ballot papers is. In this case it is 15,942. Call it V. Then, the Returning Officer calculates the turn out (V/E) and usually announces it as a percentage, accurate to 2 decimal places. In this case, 24.03%. Call it T%. Then, all the normal people, who wants to know what the turnout was, calculate the turnout (E x T%) and get a number which, in this case, ranges from 15,942 to 15,948. Then, all the normal people are annoyed because they have not been told the percentage turnout to a sufficiently high level of accuracy to be able to know what the turnout was. Then, all the normal people (if they are at the count) go to the returning Officer in order to ask specifically what the turnout was as a number and not as a percentage, and are told that it was V. Or, if they are not at the count and are at home watching on television, they ask people on Twitter to try to find out what V was. Then, the sorting stage of the count takes place, as a result of which the returning Officer discovers that the number of votes cast for each candidate was A, B, C etc, and Z spoilt votes. Then, the result is declared, and everybody knows what A, B, C, etc and Z are. Then, all the normal people add up A plus B plus C plus Z, and subtract the total from V, in order to find out what the discrepancy is between the declared total and the verification total. If there is a significant discrepancy between V and the total of a, B, C and Z, then the candidates and agents at the count will immediately be alerted to, and will be conscious of, the possibility of an error, and will, if necessary, request a recount. The whole point of this process is that it is necessary for normal people to know what the verification total (V) is, as a number, before the total number of votes for each candidate is known. |
|
|
|
Post by johnloony on Feb 4, 2022 2:53:32 GMT
No TV coverage  isnt this just the sort of thing that the Parliament channel would be ideal for? Couple of talking heads in a small studio, a graphics panel and a few politicians to spin the result etc. Instead theyre showing footage of the House of Lords earlier today All normal people were watching Sky News from 10:30pm to 1:30pm and were therefore watching all of the coverage of the count and declaration. |
|
isnt this just the sort of thing that the Parliament channel would be ideal for? Couple of talking heads in a small studio, a graphics panel and a few politicians to spin the result etc. Instead theyre showing footage of the House of Lords earlier today