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Post by John Chanin on Dec 12, 2021 8:32:07 GMT
Now the Conservatives have a candidate there’s no further need to delay the by-election, given that the other (main) parties have said they won’t stand.
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 12, 2021 11:45:56 GMT
She looks younger than 55. Probably the only thing she has in common with Claudia Webbe. |
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 12, 2021 11:47:36 GMT
Anna Firth selected as Conservative candidate. Barrister, stood in Canterbury in 2019. Tried to get selected in Sevenoaks. Former leading light in "Women Against For Brexit".  |
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 12, 2021 11:49:57 GMT
Former leading light in "Women Against Brexit". Ah, that's mildly interesting. |
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 12, 2021 11:53:36 GMT
Former leading light in "Women Against Brexit". Ah, that's mildly interesting. See amendment. I have sacked my social media team. 
She shouted at a friend of mine across Sevenoaks High Street, when they were distributing leaflets for the opposing camps.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 12, 2021 13:10:08 GMT
Ah, that's mildly interesting. See amendment. I have sacked my social media team. She shouted at a friend of mine across Sevenoaks High Street, when they were distributing leaflets for the opposing camps.
Would that be "Men Against Brexit"? |
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 12, 2021 13:17:50 GMT
See amendment. I have sacked my social media team. She shouted at a friend of mine across Sevenoaks High Street, when they were distributing leaflets for the opposing camps.
Would that be "Men Against Brexit"? I see what you did there. |
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Post by stb12 on Dec 13, 2021 20:49:43 GMT
If the man parties had decided to contest this I wonder if it would have been interesting? Considering recent events and the fact that another safe seat in North Shropshire looks like being competitive at the very least
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Post by aidypiez on Dec 13, 2021 22:23:35 GMT
If the man parties had decided to contest this I wonder if it would have been interesting? Considering recent events and the fact that another safe seat in North Shropshire looks like being competitive at the very least Labour gain surely? |
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Post by andrewp on Dec 13, 2021 22:28:17 GMT
If the man parties had decided to contest this I wonder if it would have been interesting? Considering recent events and the fact that another safe seat in North Shropshire looks like being competitive at the very least Labour gain surely? Well Lab got a 10.2% swing in Old Bexley and would have needed 15.6% in Southend West. So the odds would probably be Con hold if held at the same time as Old Bexley, which it probably would have been. |
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Post by batman on Dec 13, 2021 22:29:15 GMT
the LDs would surely have worked it too. They were fairly close here in 1997
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Post by catfest on Dec 13, 2021 22:39:57 GMT
If the man parties had decided to contest this I wonder if it would have been interesting? Considering recent events and the fact that another safe seat in North Shropshire looks like being competitive at the very least. If the man parties contested I would expect strong representation from the Women's. Equality Party (where are they now . . . ). |
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 13, 2021 22:43:15 GMT
If the man parties had decided to contest this I wonder if it would have been interesting? Considering recent events and the fact that another safe seat in North Shropshire looks like being competitive at the very least Only if the Women's Equality party stood. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2021 22:50:52 GMT
Naturally the LibDems will be encouraging all "progressives" here to support UKIP as the party best-placed to beat the Tories
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Post by timrollpickering on Dec 13, 2021 22:52:00 GMT
I eagerly await a photocall by Neil Hamilton (or whoever's become Ukip leader by then) on Southend Pier.
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 13, 2021 23:02:29 GMT
I eagerly await a photocall by Neil Hamilton (or whoever's become Ukip leader by then) on Southend Pier. It seems ages since they had a leadership election. Sad. |
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Post by peterl on Dec 13, 2021 23:04:44 GMT
Naturally the LibDems will be encouraging all "progressives" here to support UKIP as the party best-placed to beat the Tories I look forward to the bar chart. |
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Post by grahammurray on Dec 14, 2021 0:32:23 GMT
Naturally the LibDems will be encouraging all "progressives" here to support UKIP as the party best-placed to beat the Tories In many ways they are when compared to Amess, who never would have won the seat in the first place if Labour voters had voted effectively in 1997. |
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Post by John Chanin on Dec 14, 2021 7:53:05 GMT
Naturally the LibDems will be encouraging all "progressives" here to support UKIP as the party best-placed to beat the Tories In many ways they are when compared to Amess, who never would have won the seat in the first place if Labour voters had voted effectively in 1997. Southend is not a liberal (or Liberal) place. The success of the Liberal Democrats locally in the 1990s was due to a complacent and moribund Conservative Council, and the usual "anyone but Conservative vote". When UKIP arose in the 2010s it had much more genuine support in Southend. At national level Labour was and is a more natural vote than Liberal Democrat. However there is no chance of Labour ever winning the west seat in Southend, although in present circumstances they would have a chance in the east seat. |
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Post by batman on Dec 14, 2021 8:30:39 GMT
In many ways they are when compared to Amess, who never would have won the seat in the first place if Labour voters had voted effectively in 1997. Southend is not a liberal (or Liberal) place. The success of the Liberal Democrats locally in the 1990s was due to a complacent and moribund Conservative Council, and the usual "anyone but Conservative vote". When UKIP arose in the 2010s it had much more genuine support in Southend. At national level Labour was and is a more natural vote than Liberal Democrat. However there is no chance of Labour ever winning the west seat in Southend, although in present circumstances they would have a chance in the east seat. yes I'd agree with that. Labour has some good support in Westborough but the rest of the constituency, though not posh, is basically too full of the sort of voters who don't vote Labour - even in 1997. |
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