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Post by grahammurray on Oct 11, 2021 21:46:46 GMT
They do no such thing. A commercial enterprise is setting out its rates to manage its book with a view to profit and in response to bets placed. Nothing more. Nothing less. Those bets and those responsive set rates show nothing, evidence nothing and are in no way any indicator of a possible result. In which case you'll be able to make a small fortune each week. |
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Post by mysticrobin on Oct 11, 2021 23:06:53 GMT
The opening odds are certainly not "in response to bets placed".
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Post by greenchristian on Oct 11, 2021 23:26:15 GMT
The opening odds are certainly not "in response to bets placed". But they are an anticipation of what kind of bets are likely to be placed. |
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Post by mysticrobin on Oct 11, 2021 23:31:22 GMT
Yes, based on previous elections in the seat and current opinion polling amongst other things.
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Post by greenchristian on Oct 11, 2021 23:34:36 GMT
Yes, based on previous elections in the seat and current opinion polling amongst other things. The most important part of those other things being their records of bets placed on previous by-elections, and deductions from that of the likelihood of making a profit regardless of the actual outcome. |
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Post by mysticrobin on Oct 11, 2021 23:43:04 GMT
It's pretty much a new betting field, local council by elections, so the bookie is taking a bit of a punt on it. Good luck to them and it's most welcome.
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Post by phil156 on Oct 12, 2021 10:56:07 GMT
Harrow is counting at 10AM Friday all the others are Thursday night
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Post by mysticrobin on Oct 12, 2021 11:07:59 GMT
Do Scottish Council elections normally take longer to count because of their STV system?
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Post by casualobserver on Oct 12, 2021 20:57:26 GMT
They do no such thing. A commercial enterprise is setting out its rates to manage its book with a view to profit and in response to bets placed. Nothing more. Nothing less. Those bets and those responsive set rates show nothing, evidence nothing and are in no way any indicator of a possible result. But apart from that, carlton43, have you any objections to shadsy's comments? |
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Post by yellowperil on Oct 13, 2021 6:14:03 GMT
It's pretty much a new betting field, local council by elections, so the bookie is taking a bit of a punt on it. Good luck to them and it's most welcome. Certainly if these opportunites were to be taken up by our current lot of predictors the bookmakers could make a shedload of money.... |
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Post by andrewteale on Oct 13, 2021 8:19:15 GMT
Do Scottish Council elections normally take longer to count because of their STV system? If the ballot papers are scanned by a computer (as they normally are, although not always for by-elections where the counting process is simpler), then no. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Oct 13, 2021 8:30:41 GMT
Do Scottish Council elections normally take longer to count because of their STV system? If the ballot papers are scanned by a computer (as they normally are, although not always for by-elections where the counting process is simpler), then no. I think computer scanning is actually quite rare in by-elections, so the counts do tend to take more time, but we sometimes get round by round updates to add to the psephological excitement. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Oct 14, 2021 10:39:30 GMT
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Post by timmullen1 on Oct 14, 2021 21:40:15 GMT
Wigan have said they’ll post the Leigh result on their Twitter (@wigancouncil), Surrey Heath Lib Dems (@surreyheathlds) look promising for the Frimley Green result, and reporter Kirsty Paterson (@kirstypaterso20) appears to be at the Falkirk count. Harrow are seemingly counting tomorrow.
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Post by andrewp on Oct 14, 2021 21:41:00 GMT
Wigan have said they’ll post the Leigh result on their Twitter (@wigancouncil), Surrey Heath Lib Dems (@surreyheathlds) look promising for the Frimley Green result, and reporter Kirsty Paterson (@kirstypaterso20) appears to be at the Falkirk count. Harrow are seemingly counting tomorrow. Yes Harrow is tomorrow morning. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 14, 2021 21:56:42 GMT
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Post by andrewp on Oct 14, 2021 22:08:40 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 14, 2021 22:10:08 GMT
WIGAN Leigh West
BROWN, Samantha C (Labour) 1,004
GEDDES, James F (Conservative) 423
HARGREAVES, Jayson A (Leigh West Independent) 257
HONEY, Sharron L (Liberal Democrat) 103
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Oct 14, 2021 22:14:12 GMT
Falkirk South turnout 32.5%.
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Post by andrewp on Oct 14, 2021 22:20:49 GMT
Leigh West
Lab 56.2% (-0.4 since May)
Con 23.7% (-1.9)
Ind 14.4%
LD 5.6% (+1.9)
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