ilerda
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Post by ilerda on Dec 9, 2021 9:27:12 GMT
There's guaranteed to be a left wing candidate in the final round. Macron is a socialist after all...
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Tony Otim
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Post by Tony Otim on Dec 9, 2021 9:32:03 GMT
There's guaranteed to be a left wing candidate in the final round. Macron is a socialist after all... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 It's the way you tell 'em. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 9, 2021 11:16:32 GMT
There's guaranteed to be a left wing candidate in the final round. Macron is a socialist after all... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 It's the way you tell 'em. Macron is a History Boys version of Giscard d' Estaing. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 12, 2021 17:57:08 GMT
Philippe de Villiers has announced his support for Zemmour. He's pretty strong meat but he's a comparatively mainstream figure (and infamously coined the phrase "Polish plumber").
For some reason, this happened this weekend whilst the two of them were in, of all places, Armenia.
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nelson
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Post by nelson on Dec 12, 2021 23:44:47 GMT
Philippe de Villiers has announced his support for Zemmour. He's pretty strong meat but he's a comparatively mainstream figure (and infamously coined the phrase "Polish plumber"). For some reason, this happened this weekend whilst the two of them were in, of all places, Armenia. An endorsement from his brother the General would be more interesting. |
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Wisconsin
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Post by Wisconsin on Dec 12, 2021 23:53:55 GMT
For some reason, this happened this weekend whilst the two of them were in, of all places, Armenia. There’s about 500,000 French-Armenian voters up for grabs if he says the right things. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 13, 2021 0:02:17 GMT
For some reason, this happened this weekend whilst the two of them were in, of all places, Armenia. There’s about 500,000 French-Armenian voters up for grabs if he says the right things. That crossed my mind. But that would be too cynical a move, surely? And who knows why PdV turned up. |
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Post by relique on Dec 13, 2021 10:10:28 GMT
Armenia has long been, for the far-right, a symbol of the oppression of christians by muslims.
It's as simple as that.
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Post by ibfc on Dec 13, 2021 10:24:29 GMT
Armenia has long been, for the far-right, a symbol of the oppression of christians by muslims. It's as simple as that. He definitely got my support with this visit. Shows civilisational awareness. The kind of thing Macron talks about but then doesn't really follow through with for the fear of being labelled far right. |
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Khunanup
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Post by Khunanup on Dec 13, 2021 17:25:24 GMT
Armenia has long been, for the far-right, a symbol of the oppression of christians by muslims. It's as simple as that. He definitely got my support with this visit. Shows civilisational awareness. The kind of thing Macron talks about but then doesn't really follow through with for the fear of being labelled far right. Come again? |
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maxque
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Post by maxque on Dec 13, 2021 17:44:43 GMT
He definitely got my support with this visit. Shows civilisational awareness. The kind of thing Macron talks about but then doesn't really follow through with for the fear of being labelled far right. Come again? I think it's a fancy word used by the far-right for ethnic cleansing. |
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Dec 13, 2021 17:54:31 GMT
Well, some are not aware, that civilisations have existed...
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Post by relique on Dec 17, 2021 10:49:37 GMT
Christiane Taubira (former government minister for Justice during the Hollande presidency, former candidate at the 2002 presidential election - 2,32% - supported by center-left PRG, former MP for Guyane - she was encouraged to present her candidacy by Lionel Jospin who hoped to cut some momentum from Jean-Pierre Chevènement; her 2% was what Jospin needed to get to the second round) is saying officially she could be a candidate for the united left.
She is very center-left (she supported the Balladur cabinet in 1993 when she was first elected an MP for her small party Walwari, was elected an MEP with Bernard Tapie in 1994) but is absurdly seen by media and political officials and activists as "very left-wing" just because she was the minister in charge of the same-sex marriage law. She also resigned from government 2 months after Hollande talked about deprivation of nationality as a response to terrorism.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 17, 2021 12:16:52 GMT
She also resigned from government 2 months after Hollande talked about deprivation of nationality as a response to terrorism. Which goes much against the grain of the narrative that this is a sinister far-right approach (as does the fact that it exists in the constitution of a number of European nations). |
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Georg Ebner
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Post by Georg Ebner on Dec 17, 2021 17:15:56 GMT
She is very center-left (she supported the Balladur cabinet in 1993 when she was first elected an MP for her small party Walwari, was elected an MEP with Bernard Tapie in 1994) but is absurdly seen by media and political officials and activists as "very left-wing" just because she was the minister in charge of the same-sex marriage law. She also resigned from government 2 months after Hollande talked about deprivation of nationality as a response to terrorism. That LeftLiberals are on these issues to the left of the LabourParties what means: on the far left - is nothing new, is it? And anyWay: Already for our maiores in the 1950ies - let alone eras before or other cultures - SameSex-"marriage" would have been beyond left-extremism - it would have been simply crazy. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 18, 2021 11:52:27 GMT
The latest polls all seem to show La Pécresse overtaking MLP for the run-off position, within a percent however.
Latest Opinion Way poll (does anyone know them?)
Macron 24, Pécresse 17, Le Pen 16, Zemmour 12, Melenchon 9.
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Post by relique on Dec 18, 2021 16:41:24 GMT
The latest polls all seem to show La Pécresse overtaking MLP for the run-off position, within a percent however. Latest Opinion Way poll (does anyone know them?) Macron 24, Pécresse 17, Le Pen 16, Zemmour 12, Melenchon 9. Opinionway is usually a classical right-wing pollster |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 18, 2021 16:52:35 GMT
The latest polls all seem to show La Pécresse overtaking MLP for the run-off position, within a percent however. Latest Opinion Way poll (does anyone know them?) Macron 24, Pécresse 17, Le Pen 16, Zemmour 12, Melenchon 9. Opinionway is usually a classical right-wing pollster Thanks. Do those figures sound credible to you? |
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Post by matureleft on Dec 18, 2021 17:11:59 GMT
What has been the lowest vote share for the top two candidates in the first round? This time it could fairly easily be below 40 per cent.
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Post by John Chanin on Dec 18, 2021 17:40:38 GMT
What has been the lowest vote share for the top two candidates in the first round? This time it could fairly easily be below 40 per cent. Heading in a Peruvian direction…. |
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